Why don’t Irish soccer fans support Irish soccer teams?
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Earlier this summer, like most of the people living in Ireland and the active citizens of the global diaspora, I was caught up in the excitement of the Irish soccer team’s appearance in the European Championship.
It was heartening, especially in these miserable economic times, to see Ireland qualify for its first international tournament since the 2002 World Cup, now best remembered in Ireland for the infamous sequence of events leading up to it.
However disappointing it was to watch Ireland lose three times in rather spectacular fashion, it was uplifting to hear the huge crowd of Irish supporters singing “The Fields of Athenry” at the close of the 4-0 loss to Spain. It was a defiantly loyal riposte to what the supporters could see on the field and on the scoreboard. To hear the singing 3,000 miles away, in the heartland of Irish America, as I did, made it even more special.
Notwithstanding the fact that I will always support Ireland in its international matches, I have to admit that I just don’t like soccer. I have no doubt that it is the American in me, but I find it boring in the extreme. What’s more, the increasingly widespread practice of players’ diving in an effort to elicit the referee’s whistle is revolting and shouldn’t be tolerated by any soccer fan, regardless of where his or her loyalties lie. I fully accept that this is a matter of taste.
Irish people quite regularly express to me their disdain for American sports. Baseball, for instance, comes under attack as a boring and drawn out sport. Looking at it from their perspective, I can absolutely understand why so many people in Ireland and elsewhere around the world feel that way. Soccer, on the other hand, is hugely popular in Ireland.
The English Premiership League is king, and Irish fans travel to cities throughout the United Kingdom regularly to see their favourite teams play. Additionally, during the lengthy premiership season, many Irish pubs are adopted as their own by large crowds of mainly young men clad in Manchester United, Liverpool and other jerseys. They passionately and raucously cheer their teams on.
All of this is fine, I guess. To each his own, I repeat to myself. Yet in truth, I find the passion of Irish soccer fans for English soccer teams irksome. I have two primary difficulties, neither of which is novel or peculiar.
First is when these Irish fans of English soccer prioritise their love for the sport and for their team across the Irish Sea over their own national sports, football and hurling, and their county and local club teams in the two sports. Football and hurling, the two main sports of the Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA), which is still an all-amateur organisation, are played by men and women and by girls and boys for the love of the sports and for the love of where they are from.
Each sport is beautiful in its own right. Hurling is the fastest field sport in the world. Football demands a rare mixture of power and skill. But time and time again, I witness Irish people choosing to watch professional soccer from England instead of the GAA, one of this country’s foremost national treasures. It blows my mind when I see it happen.
Second is that soccer fans don’t need to look to England to find teams to support. Indeed, there is a League of Ireland and there are soccer teams the length and breadth of this island. The small and remarkably dedicated followings of these teams have struggled mightily to keep their beloved clubs afloat as the economic downturn continues to inflict hardship on the League of Ireland.
When I lived near Terryland Park in Galway, it used to break my heart to see dwindling crowds going to see the city’s League of Ireland team, Galway United, play their matches. At the very same time, significant numbers of soccer fans living in Galway were ensconced in pubs in town to watch their favourite English teams on satellite television. I’ve long kept this second difficulty to myself.
On a recent trip to northeast England, however, I read a superb letter to the editor in the Irish Post, the newspaper of the Irish diaspora in the United Kingdom. Written by Steve Bradley, a Derryman living in London, the relevant paragraphs are as follows: “I’m proud to be Irish, proud of my hometown, and I also love watching live football. Yet those three ingredients have conspired to make me a member of a little understood cult within Irish society. My name is Steve, and I’m a League of Ireland lover. I support my hometown team, Derry City FC. Our stadium isn’t great, the quality of football is variable, and attendances number a few thousand. But I don’t care. Derry is the city that made me the person I am today. And when I support my team, it’s as much an expression of civic and personal pride as it is an exercise in entertainment consumption.
Euro 2012 showed that Ireland will never be world beaters at football. But it also showed the size and passion of the support that exists for the game within our island. The tear in my eye that evening in Gdansk was borne of recognition that if only a small portion of the fans in that stadium supported domestic Irish football, we’d have a league they could all be very proud of. Instead, the ‘world’s greatest supporters’ look to English and Scottish towns they have no genuine affinity with to commandeer ‘their’ team. Irish people give many excuses for why they willingly turn their back on domestic football, yet none stand up to scrutiny. Even the ill-informed ‘why would you watch that crap?’ argument has been fatally undermined by 30,000 Irish people spending a fortune to go watch a weak team play badly in Poland.
Club football in Ireland faces many problems, as indeed does football elsewhere. But all of those challenges would be greatly eased if Irish people showed an interest in the local version of the game they claim to love.” Amen, Mr. Bradley. Thank you for saying it with far more moral authority than I ever could have.
It was heartening, especially in these miserable economic times, to see Ireland qualify for its first international tournament since the 2002 World Cup, now best remembered in Ireland for the infamous sequence of events leading up to it.
However disappointing it was to watch Ireland lose three times in rather spectacular fashion, it was uplifting to hear the huge crowd of Irish supporters singing “The Fields of Athenry” at the close of the 4-0 loss to Spain. It was a defiantly loyal riposte to what the supporters could see on the field and on the scoreboard. To hear the singing 3,000 miles away, in the heartland of Irish America, as I did, made it even more special.
Notwithstanding the fact that I will always support Ireland in its international matches, I have to admit that I just don’t like soccer. I have no doubt that it is the American in me, but I find it boring in the extreme. What’s more, the increasingly widespread practice of players’ diving in an effort to elicit the referee’s whistle is revolting and shouldn’t be tolerated by any soccer fan, regardless of where his or her loyalties lie. I fully accept that this is a matter of taste.
Irish people quite regularly express to me their disdain for American sports. Baseball, for instance, comes under attack as a boring and drawn out sport. Looking at it from their perspective, I can absolutely understand why so many people in Ireland and elsewhere around the world feel that way. Soccer, on the other hand, is hugely popular in Ireland.
The English Premiership League is king, and Irish fans travel to cities throughout the United Kingdom regularly to see their favourite teams play. Additionally, during the lengthy premiership season, many Irish pubs are adopted as their own by large crowds of mainly young men clad in Manchester United, Liverpool and other jerseys. They passionately and raucously cheer their teams on.
All of this is fine, I guess. To each his own, I repeat to myself. Yet in truth, I find the passion of Irish soccer fans for English soccer teams irksome. I have two primary difficulties, neither of which is novel or peculiar.
First is when these Irish fans of English soccer prioritise their love for the sport and for their team across the Irish Sea over their own national sports, football and hurling, and their county and local club teams in the two sports. Football and hurling, the two main sports of the Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA), which is still an all-amateur organisation, are played by men and women and by girls and boys for the love of the sports and for the love of where they are from.
Each sport is beautiful in its own right. Hurling is the fastest field sport in the world. Football demands a rare mixture of power and skill. But time and time again, I witness Irish people choosing to watch professional soccer from England instead of the GAA, one of this country’s foremost national treasures. It blows my mind when I see it happen.
Second is that soccer fans don’t need to look to England to find teams to support. Indeed, there is a League of Ireland and there are soccer teams the length and breadth of this island. The small and remarkably dedicated followings of these teams have struggled mightily to keep their beloved clubs afloat as the economic downturn continues to inflict hardship on the League of Ireland.
When I lived near Terryland Park in Galway, it used to break my heart to see dwindling crowds going to see the city’s League of Ireland team, Galway United, play their matches. At the very same time, significant numbers of soccer fans living in Galway were ensconced in pubs in town to watch their favourite English teams on satellite television. I’ve long kept this second difficulty to myself.
On a recent trip to northeast England, however, I read a superb letter to the editor in the Irish Post, the newspaper of the Irish diaspora in the United Kingdom. Written by Steve Bradley, a Derryman living in London, the relevant paragraphs are as follows: “I’m proud to be Irish, proud of my hometown, and I also love watching live football. Yet those three ingredients have conspired to make me a member of a little understood cult within Irish society. My name is Steve, and I’m a League of Ireland lover. I support my hometown team, Derry City FC. Our stadium isn’t great, the quality of football is variable, and attendances number a few thousand. But I don’t care. Derry is the city that made me the person I am today. And when I support my team, it’s as much an expression of civic and personal pride as it is an exercise in entertainment consumption.
Euro 2012 showed that Ireland will never be world beaters at football. But it also showed the size and passion of the support that exists for the game within our island. The tear in my eye that evening in Gdansk was borne of recognition that if only a small portion of the fans in that stadium supported domestic Irish football, we’d have a league they could all be very proud of. Instead, the ‘world’s greatest supporters’ look to English and Scottish towns they have no genuine affinity with to commandeer ‘their’ team. Irish people give many excuses for why they willingly turn their back on domestic football, yet none stand up to scrutiny. Even the ill-informed ‘why would you watch that crap?’ argument has been fatally undermined by 30,000 Irish people spending a fortune to go watch a weak team play badly in Poland.
Club football in Ireland faces many problems, as indeed does football elsewhere. But all of those challenges would be greatly eased if Irish people showed an interest in the local version of the game they claim to love.” Amen, Mr. Bradley. Thank you for saying it with far more moral authority than I ever could have.
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DrTrelawney | Jul 28, 2012, 10:42 AM EDT
@paddyranger.
Wounded Knee is, in fact, largely correct. Anybody old enough to have followed football throughout the 1970s and 1980s will recall that, in both Britain and Ireland, "soccer" was regularly used as a euphemism for association football. Commentators on Match of the Day, managers and players all used the term. This phobia about the word only really emerged in the late 1980s and early 1990s. I would date it to the decision to award the 1994 World Cup to the USA. Almost overnight it was decided that "soccer" was American for football and the word was demonised. As a kid (and youngish adult, for that matter), I recall it being used without any fear of opprobrium.
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paddyRanger | Jul 28, 2012, 10:20 AM EDT
Larry Donnelly, you also have to bear in mind, most of the "English" teams have had a lot of Irish players, and players of Irish descent born in England so there is a close bond hence the reason Irish people identify also with a Football team from Mainland UK...Arsenal were famous in the 70's-80's for having several famous Irish players...the National team that made you so proud in Gdansk, where do you think most of them play??
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Sparklet | Jul 28, 2012, 10:18 AM EDT
There's the same argument in the UK about why some people don't support their local team instead of the grander teams like Man Utd. But Man.Utd have had worldwide support since way before they won the Premier League back in 1993 - when they were in the old second division, and not the top flight, they were still the best supported team in the UK. And there has always been a strong link to Ireland with the number of Irish players who have been at the club - Carey, Best, Gregg, Brennan, Irwin, etc. etc. Old Trafford if full of Irish supporters every home match, and those supporters can't just switch off their allegiance and decide not to support them any more. Apart from that, people like to watch world-class players.
Oh, and it's also known as freedom of choice.
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paddyRanger | Jul 28, 2012, 10:02 AM EDT
oh jaysus here we go with more tripe from woundedknee.......regurgitating from wikipedia how the word soccer is used or came from.......the world outside of USA calls it football ..regardless of the fact their is a word called SOCCER...it will never be the real name for it amongst real fans, not by plastic supporters who develop and "Interest"...haha what crap, develop an interest in a team....spoken like a person who has no clue what it is to be a fan of a team. Stick to baseball chum...."Go Pat's" hahaha what ever next, using baseball terms for a football team.......Kilsally is correct it is football. And as for article, people are FREE to choose what ever sport they wish to follow, who are you the football police you decide what people should do
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WoundedKnee | Jul 28, 2012, 09:06 AM EDT
Stupid unthinking comment by kilsally. Just to correct a little bit of his ignorance, the word "soccer" has been in use for a hundred years in Britain and Ireland. In fact when doing some research on the Irish Civil War (1922-3) a few years back I had to go thru newspapers of the time. To relax a little I occasionally turned to the sports reports. Guess what, they gave the SOCCER results. I believe the term stems from aSOCCiation Football, the 'ER' at the end just parallels the /-er/ in "rugger". I don't know what Kilsally wants us to call soccer, but if he wants us to call it "football" that's nonsense, given that there are two other football sports in Ireland, both probably more popular than soccer, judging by attendance at games. These are rugby and Gaelic football.
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LarryDonnelly | Jul 27, 2012, 12:08 PM EDT
Kilsally, you can read what football is in Ireland in my column. "Football and hurling, the two main sports of the Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA), which is still an all-amateur organisation, are played by men and women and by girls and boys for the love of the sports and for the love of where they are from."
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Kilsally | Jul 27, 2012, 11:54 AM EDT
You know what irks me? Americans referring to football as soccer ;/
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WoundedKnee | Jul 27, 2012, 11:43 AM EDT
Good article. When I lived in Dublin in the 1990s I developed an interest in St Patrick's Athletic and went to quite a few of their games. Sometimes the matches were very poor, but other times--enough to make it worth my while--they were hugely entertaining. And the camaraderie and wit on what passed for bleachers was always a barrel of laughs. There was an affinity between the players and the fans--if you shouted an insult at a player, there was a good chance he heard you, and indeed on one or two occasions he shouted something back! At that time also I had the surreal experience in a pub one evening of listening stupefied while "Irish" "fans" who were watching an English soccer game on TV began to shout slogans for "their" teams, and did so in an attempt at an English accent! Psychologically very weird. On the bright side, even after all these years, I was thrilled to read in this morning's online Irish paper that St Pats are thru to the next round of the European Cup. Go Pats!
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