Potential political pitfalls of Barack Obama’s support for same-sex marriage
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Despite the reality that marital relationships are governed by state law so that presidential pronouncements on the subject are practically immaterial, this is a watershed moment. Symbolism matters in politics.
Moreover, President Obama and his administration – Vice President Joe Biden’s earlier expression of support for same-sex marriage was not another “Biden gaffe” – deliberately chose to take a stand on this controversial issue at this pivotal moment. The president had long asserted that he still believed that marriage was reserved for a man and a woman, but endorsed the right of gays and lesbians to enter into civil partnerships. He also noted that his views were “evolving” on an ongoing basis.
All Americans, regardless of what their own views are on same-sex marriage, should respect President Obama for candidly announcing exactly where he stands in the highly-charged context of an election year. It took guts. A lot of observers, including this one, didn’t think he would do so.
Some of his advisors surely counseled him not to do so.
In the short time since President Obama declared his support for same-sex marriage, political analysts of every hue have been pondering the impact that definitively “taking a side” will have on his re-election chances. One view, which has been prominently articulated, is that Obama’s bold move will have little or no impact on his re-election prospects.
The logic behind this view is as follows. Voters who have a problem with same-sex marriage would not have supported President Obama’s re-election anyway. His stance will fire up wealthy donors on the coasts, activists, young people and other elements of the left-wing coalition who helped him defeat Hillary Clinton in the 2008 Democratic primary and then win the presidency. Many of these voters either were not active or did not vote in the 2010 mid-term congressional elections and Democrats suffered losses as a result.
Additionally, the logic goes, most floating voters won’t make their minds up based solely on the issue of same-sex marriage. This is all largely true.
Furthermore, those who take this view can point to national opinion polls revealing that slightly more than half of the American people now believe in the right of same-sex couples to marry. This is a dramatic shift from opinion polls taken in the mid-1990s which showed that only a quarter of Americans felt that way. This seeming change in public opinion illustrates just how efficacious campaigners for same-sex marriage have been in winning over hearts and minds to their cause. So, is that it? Far from it.
The fact is that President Obama’s stated support for same-sex marriage poses a real threat to his re-election bid. Here’s why those who believe this to be a political zero sum game are wrong.
First, while there is no question that Obama’s statement will energise the left and, most especially, younger voters, it will equally energise voters on the right, particularly evangelical Christians. These voters, who are sceptical about Mitt Romney for a number of reasons, finally have something to galvanise them around his candidacy.
Conversely, there was almost nothing that could have caused them to similarly rally around John McCain, the last Republican presidential nominee. The 2004 election evidences how this might play out. In that presidential election year, conservatives and evangelicals were enraged by a decision of the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court in 2003 that effectively mandated the introduction of same-sex marriage in that state. They feared what might lie ahead and mobilised to prevent it. Same-sex marriage bans were approved by varying, yet healthy, margins in 11 states, including Ohio. The heightened activism and turnout they generated on Election Day helped President George W. Bush to a second term.
Second is the issue of floating voters. The reality is that this campaign is going to come down to a relatively small number of floating voters. Although where their votes go is typically dictated by their economic fortunes, some, perhaps especially in Ohio, are heavily influenced by a candidate’s stand on social and cultural issues. A significant percentage of these voters in Ohio may not be able to stomach the president’s support for same-sex marriage.
President Obama’s advisors know that their chances of prevailing in Ohio have taken a hit. Running against Mitt Romney, a former venture capitalist who oversaw the loss of high-paying manufacturing jobs there and throughout the “rust belt,” has become more complicated.
Now, Romney can use President Obama’s support of same-sex marriage, not to mention other social and cultural issues, to make the choice in November a lot harder for many Ohioans. It will only take a small number to turn the tide – the president won just 51.5% of the vote there in 2008. Losing Ohio would be a severe, and potentially deadly, blow to the president’s re-election hopes.
Third is the Hispanic vote. Hispanic voters in the United States remain something of an unknown quantity. Much has been written and said in the media that they tend to be culturally conservative and that negative attitudes about homosexuality are prevalent among male and older Hispanics. Endorsing same-sex marriage could cost the president some hard-earned support in “new” battleground states, such as New Mexico and Colorado, where Hispanic communities are large enough to tilt the balance one way or the other. Victories in these two states would be essential if President Obama were to lose Ohio.
Lastly, and maybe most importantly, the opinion polls reflecting that a majority of Americans now support same-sex marriage are extremely difficult to reconcile with what has happened at the ballot box time and time again.
Just this past week, 61% of voters in North Carolina voted not only to ban same-sex marriage, but to forbid any kind of legal recognition of same-sex relationships whatsoever. North Carolinians voted to do by an overwhelming margin so even though opponents of the measure spent a tremendous amount of money to achieve a different result and utilised former President Clinton in an attempt to sway public opinion. North Carolina is the latest of dozens of states to enact same-sex marriage bans since 2003. In fact, on the historic night in 2008 when Barack Obama won the presidency, voters in Arizona, Florida and, notably, liberal California approved bans on same-sex marriage. These results simply do not comport with the opinion polls. There is certainly more buy-in for same-sex marriage in 2012, yet the polls may overstate it.
There is a precedent for this, known as the “Bradley effect.” In 1982, all the late polls showed then-Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley, an African-American, defeating his Republican opponent in that year’s gubernatorial election. The polls, which prompted at least one newspaper to print headlines indicating that Bradley was the new governor, were wrong. The Republican prevailed.
Most analysts attributed the errant polls to a feeling among some white voters in California that, if they stated their support for the white candidate, they could be open to the charge of racism. This feeling skewed the polls. The very same phenomenon may be at work in 2012 on the issue of same-sex marriage. Supporting same-sex marriage is certainly regarded as the “politically correct” position to take. And again, the results of referendum after referendum would seem to indicate that what some people say publicly does not reflect what they ultimately do in the privacy of the ballot box.
In the end, not a lot of voters will decide whether to vote for Barack Obama or Mitt Romney on the basis of their views on same-sex marriage. It’s still the economy, stupid. But a small number will, and that could be enough to be decisive in November. See more: Irish Politics
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| Jun 22, 2012, 12:03 PM EDT
PART 4 (LAST): Through all this, both Jesus Christ and St Paul (and others) were preaching – just like the ancient Hebrew prophets - that despite the many sins afflicting the world, there was still God’s love and forgiveness and freedom from the condemnation that awaits evil (i.e. salvation) IF AND ONLY IF people humbled themselves, repented of their sins and turned to God (Romans 8:1, &c).The fact that St Paul’s writings are of singular importance and centrality to universal Christian doctrine, and that by his expansion upon the foundations created by JC very clearly places morality and holiness of character and action at the centre of Christian belief in a much more defined way, should unequivocally dispel any attempt to argue that JC was at least “indifferent” to homosexuality.
Perhaps though no statement more clearly condemns the present overturning of faith, family and morality in general, and the current push for complete “acceptance” of homosexual deviance in particular, than this chilling prophecy: “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, WITHOUT NATURAL AFFECTION, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away”. 2 Timothy 3:1-5 (KJV) [Upper Case added] Apologies for the length of the reply and for the multiple partial replies, but Eiriamach’s claim needed to be comprehensively answered, and this website isn’t conducive to in depth discussion. La fin.
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Andrew007 | Jun 19, 2012, 05:00 AM EDT
PART 3: Eiriamach’s comments are further contradicted by merely examining the context within which JC & others operated. Jesus was sent to be Redeemer (“Messiah”) of the Jewish people, and through them the world (JC even stated to a gentile woman who kept asking for healing and deliverance for her daughter “Let the children be filled first, for it is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs”, Mark 7:27); and this strongly suggests that the sins He specifically addressed were particular to the Jews of His day. That this by no means rules out the other sins is clearly indicated by the later condemnation of a wide range of sins by St Paul, who had been reared in the SAME moral code of the SAME strict religious society as JC. But whereas JC was ministering specifically to the Jewish people, St Paul’s mission was to minister to the Gentiles, and as such the sins he addresses were those afflicting the societies to whom he evangelised – whether it be the drunken feasting of the Celts of Galatia, the widespread slavery of the classical world, the greed of the mercantile classes, or the (by then) pandemic sexual immorality of the Greeks. In this, St Paul (and others) explicitly and repeatedly mentions homosexuality (in pre-modern terms) as being sinful and/or perverse (Romans 1:26-7, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Timothy 1:9 and Jude 7 – which BTW reinforces the traditional understanding of Sodom’s condemnation and destruction being at least partly for its homosexuality), and like ALL sexual immorality is deserving of God’s judgement.
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Andrew007 | Jun 19, 2012, 04:55 AM EDT
PART 2: This means that JC upheld the Jewish Law concerning sexual sin, including homosexuality (i.e. that it’s an abomination in the eyes of God). That this remained the case with JC is indicated by His calling the adultery of the accused woman “sin”, when He said to her “Neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more” (John 8:11); as well as the fact that JC deliberately ministered to sinners and the outcasts of his society, saying in response to criticism “I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance” (Luke 5:32). I.e. JC still upheld the very clear high moral standard of the ancient Hebrew prophets (who always stressed genuine inner holiness (necessarily incl. sexual purity) and compassion over outward religious ritual), but was however quick to mercy and to forgive the sins of others when genuine repentance was offered (such as the sinful woman in Luke 7:34-50), and heal, deliver and even resurrect when the desperate and/or needy acted and spoke in faith (such as the paralytic man in Mark 2:1-12). This was in line with JC’s mission to save the sinners of this world (e.g. John 3:17, Mark 2:17, 1 Timothy 1:15).
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Andrew007 | Jun 17, 2012, 07:02 AM EDT
JESUS’ SUPPOSED “INDIFFERENCE" TO HOMOSEXUALITY, PART 1:
Eiriamach’s claim that homosexuality “seems to have been a non-issue with Jesus” and her(?) obvious attempt to minimise the NT condemnation of homosexuality is clearly a “furphy” and conveniently overlooks the many moral lessons the Bible teaches about holiness and (sexual) sin, which remain unchanged despite however much some deluded fools (like “Bishops” Spong and Robinson) seek to twist the Holy Scriptures in order to justify their own faithlessness and wickedness.
The first of these is the fact that Jesus Christ upheld the ancient teachings on morality. JC stated “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.” (Matt 5:17-8, NKJV). The very clear inference is that He was (by extension) upholding the ancient moral institutions (such as marriage, which JC ONLY mentions as being between Man and Woman, e.g. Luke 10:1-12) and that He was addressing ALL sins condemned by the Law and Prophets, and including His support for the Law but that now He was “fulfilling” the Law (i.e. by His blood sacrifice as the spiritual Lamb for the Jewish people and all of Mankind, JC was/is saving from condemnation all who humble themselves before God and repent).
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Andrew007 | Jun 17, 2012, 07:00 AM EDT
Eiriamach, I apologise for the delay and the length of my rebuttal to your claim that homosexuality "seems to have been a non-issue with Jesus", but it needs to be in some depth, and because of the formatting of the comms boxes here, has had to be broken up into parts.
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Andrew007 | May 28, 2012, 09:37 AM EDT
Eiriamach: you claim that so-called “marriage equality” is about “justice and equality”, but then fail to mention that homosexuals have the power to choose their immoral lifestyle (the so-called “Gay Gene” being dubious science and contested at BEST), whereas children – the inevitable and innocent victims of “Gay Marriage” and “Gay Adoption” – don’t have the power of choice about the lifestyles of the families they’re born or adopted into. Furthermore, there is evidence that at least some homosexuals are deliberately trying to bring their children up to be “Gay”.
So tell me, where is the justice in having those who CHOOSE to have a lifestyle that naturally results in infertility, to have the power over the lifestyles of the innocent children who get placed into their care? And where is the justice in thereby forcing those unfortunate children to immediately grow up in a family that has NO hope of functioning like a normal Man-Woman household, where there is at least some hope (even if the marriage is dysfunctional and/or fails) that the child experiences healthy male and female socialisation and respective role-models? Short answer(s): there ISN’T justice in this – once again the innocent suffer from the self-serving ideology of the politically correct.
(And before you say “oh, but what about the extended family?”, ask yourself what will be the impact of this revolution in social affairs after a few generations, when western society has continued in its atomisation and the ancient tradition of the “family” has collapsed further and there IS no “extended family”).
BTW, it’s interesting you claim “justice and equality”, when paedophiles have also claimed the exact same thing, and in Amsterdam have even protested for their so-called “humans rights”.
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eiriamach | May 16, 2012, 02:14 PM EDT
"It’s still the economy, stupid," yes. But we now know enough about the economic crash to realize that our American "greed is good"/ "profit is the only good" ethos led Congress to eliminate the regulations that would have prevented, or reduced the impact of, the crash. We know that Obama's moral approach to domestic policy is far superior to Romney's profiteer's approach. We all intuitively know that Obama has the interests of all Americans in mind while Romney advocates narrow upper-class interests. I have no doubt that most voters, regardless of their views on same-sex marriage, will do the right thing in November. They will not elect a businessman who traded the jobs of many workers for the short-term, legal but immoral, profit of Bain Capital investors. That's our bottom line in "privacy of the ballot box."
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eiriamach | May 16, 2012, 01:43 PM EDT
Andrew007 conveniently overlooks the fact that JC never called same-sex relationships "sin," nor did he have anything to say about homosexuality. It seems to have been a non-issue with Jesus, as it is with most American young people as well as the majority of Catholics today. The NT writers' allusions to sexual morality almost always condemn adultery, yet latter-day Christians delight in focusing on the imputed "immorality" of gays and lesbians while turning a blind eye to the sexual immorality of heterosexuals-- which accounts for the largest share of the "secularization" of our society, about which RC are forever complaining! It is completely irrelevant --a blatant ad hominem --to claim that Obama had crass political motives in lending support to marriage equality. His remarks derive from his and Biden's shared concept of justice. That's the argument opponents must deal with, but they cannot because Obama and Biden are right about justice and equality. One can speak of the political *consequences* of Obama's remark, as Donnelly does, without stumbling into ad hominems, but it's crude indeed to suggest that only politics counts in such a moment.
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Andrew007 | May 14, 2012, 01:42 PM EDT
@NYCsheridan: If you read your Bible you will find that Jesus Christ also had respect for the law and the Prophets, which includes traditional morality concerning sexual sin. Remember, While He stated "those without sin cast the first stone", he still called sin "sin", and instructed the woman accused of sinning in adultery to "sin no more". So yes, JC of course had amazing compassion but He also high standards and lived and taught accordingly. Something that you and many others would do well to remember.
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Andrew007 | May 14, 2012, 01:32 PM EDT
Obama, whilst brave, has politically made a big mistake: all of the so-called "swing states" are against so-called "Gay Marriage", all of the southern and mid-western states are against it, and he has now infuriated all of the Black and Hispanic voters who traditionally vote Democrat, but have clung onto traditional Christian values far more than have many white Democrat voters (incl, noticeably, many Irish-Americans who've abandoned Catholicism for liberalism and are secular in all but name).
Additionally, judging by the comments of many of the pundits, to many people other than homosexual activists (and their supporters) this is seemingly just a ‘red herring” to distract from the very real and severe socio-economic problems facing the USA at the moment which the Obama administration has either been unable to resolve or has been instrumental in causing or exacerbating: i.e. worsening astronomical debt levels, weak manufacturing sector with declining competitiveness, increasing entrenched poverty and homelessness, no clear economic vision from the Democrats, declining accountability for the GFC creators (Wall St) whilst the increasingly cynical and even restive US population (“Main St”) is at having to pay for their debts, and worsening global economic instability and uncertainty with spiralling crises emerging from the EU.
Furthermore, the famed rag of US liberalism, the NY Times, has itself claimed that while few are surprised by Obama’s public support for “Gay Marriage” the Obama (election) campaign has sought to capitalise upon this situation, with Obama’s fund-raising manager (himself apparently homosexual) deliberately seeking to promote political donations based upon Obama’s declaration.
Like the old magician’s trick of smoke and mirrors, there is far more than meets the eye here methinks …
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NYCsheridan | May 14, 2012, 12:48 PM EDT
It's not going to make a bit of difference. Haters are still going to hate and the enlightened among us are stil going to show compassion. You know, that quality Jesus most admired.
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