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Has Gabriel Byrne lost the plot by attacking the Gathering? -- Criticism of the tourism initiative completely misses the point

Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 at 05:10 AM
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Gabriel Byrne
Damned if we do, and damned if we don’t. That must have been the thought running through Enda Kenny’s mind as his ears were stung from Gabriel Byrne’s tongue lashing.

The Hollywood star lambasted King Kenny and the Government’s marketing centerpiece for the tourism industry next year, The Gathering, which aims to bring an extra 325,000 visitors to Ireland.

Rubbing even more salt into the wounds was the news that The Gathering had actually part-funded Today FM’s Last Word programme’s visit to New York on which actor Gabriel Byrne lambasted the tourism initiative as a “sham”. From Byrne’s perspective it was probably tantamount to shooting a man with his own gun.

The acclaimed actor has made his living creating dramas, but his role in this charade was no Oscar-winning performance. Yes, it was full of passion and came from the heart, but in the end Byrne simply lost the plot.

The Gathering is little more than a global PR and advertising campaign. Indeed, in a time of beleaguered budgets, it is a clever ploy to try and boost much needed tourism revenue. So rather than being an attempt to unscrupulously profit from Irish Americans who, according to Byrne are fed up with being “shaken down,” it is merely a tourism campaign — no more or no less. It is, as they say, what it is.

Byrne is right that “the bridge between the diaspora and the people is broken.” Indeed, it is questionable whether a bridge ever existed at all. Once people leave these shores we tend to turn our backs on them. That needs to change. But The Gathering has never been about trying make up for years of neglect. It is however a beginning. And while next year will see whether The Gathering works to its full potential, it has already been successful.

In September it helped host the American Football game between Notre Dame and Navy in the Aviva Stadium, which saw 33,000 people travel to Ireland. This was the largest movement of American citizens during peacetime for one event. The day following the game was Dublin Airport’s busiest since it opened in 1940 and the visitors who travelled to see this unique sporting event spent an estimated €100m-250m in the Irish economy.

And rather than feeling as if they had just been ‘shaken down’ many extended their stay in Ireland for up to two weeks travelling around the country and soaking up their Celtic origins.

But it is not all about shaking shamrocks and being proud to be Irish. The historic game also attracted a Who’s Who from corporate America’s leading companies, which included nine of the top 10 pharmaceutical companies, more that 50pc of world leading financial services firms, 17 of the top 25 medical devices companies, 8 of the world’s leading ICT companies and 10 of the internet’s top companies.

So I don’t think the Irish people, the Irish government or, indeed, Enda Kenny should be making any apologies for trying to forge such links. Do you Mr Byrne?

Paul Allen is Managing Director of Paul Allen and Associates PR, www.prireland.com.





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Ciardexy - you say So what? So you dont care what is happening in Ireland or you are in denial
Just sharing a thought. There is a lot of cynicism concerning the gathering. I personally hope it is successful but I see it as a money grab and a false embrace meant of this newly found "diaspora". Leaving the current generation aside for a moment, consider that those who left Ireland in the 50's and 60's (and before) had no prospects available to them. I am one I'd those people and I can assure you Ireland was a very dismal place to be then. There were no viable, sustainable options available to the average person other than to leave and the Irish government was very happy to see us go. There was no "diaspora" then, it was simply "good bye, good luck, get lost and don't let the door hit you on the way out...and don't forget to send money, parcels and clothes back home. This is why certain generations are very skeptical and cynical. This is a story that transcends the current generation. It is helpful to a fuller perspective to remember that.
Ciaradexy - So what?
ciaradexy;- and back in the real world of Ireland 440000 unemployed. Half of the money paid in welfare is borrowed by the State and will have to be paid back with interest. Oh yes and and over 200 people A DAY leaving. There may be a few thousand jobs advertised on line - but clearly not enough. Perhaps the answer is to drastically cut unemployment benefit if people are better off on the dole than working.
Oh and Bobby, youre right. Plenty of irish who had jobs have left or are leaving. My bro being one of them. He had a great job and moved to NZ. Two cousins of mine moved to Perth and Melbourne, both had great jobs here. jobs .ie and irishjobs .ie have plenty of jobs advertised so if migrants come here and get them, then fair play. The more who work, the more taxes we get in.
Hey Bobby, wounded knee is a yank called george Dillon, he posts under the name Kev407 on the Indos website too. Hes from Savannah in Georgia and doesnt live in Ireland. He has however worked here for a few months of his life. Theres the gimp in a nut shell! I get great milage out of his nonsense!
johnshiel! American family therapist Virginia Satir once expressed surprise when a theraputee proclaimed they were from a dysfunctional family - asking was there such a thing as a functional one. She correctly intuited that the most functional family on the planet is at least 1% dysfunctional, due to having been born into the family of an inherently dysfunctional world. Since most of us are born into approximately /- 50%, we can readily empathise with those born into a 99% one. Perhaps like British royalty?
often I'll read the comments under an article before the piece itself; did on this one; highly entertaining and rich stew... incisive clarity by IrelandNorth, and funny too; instructive as to exotic namecalling ("knobhead"); just a lovely window-opening onto a vibrantly disfunctional family, so to speak; good morning y'all...
Ridding Ireland of the Irish was the brainchild of King James I. Was executed by Lord Protector Oliver I (ie Citizen Cromwell) through transplantation of Irish white slaves/indentured servants to the colonies. Was continued by Charles II and subsequent English/British monarchs after the restoration. And as transportation to the penal colonies - ie Australia and Tasmania. Isn't it ironic that successive indigenous Irish governments (under a modicum of statutory autonomy masquerading as independence), should preside over a policy of enforced emigration of its own people? A Minister (ie Secretary) of a Department of Diaspora is justified - indeed imperative! The Island of Ireland rightfully belongs to the approximately 6m people who inhabit it. But equally to the estimated 60m diaspora who are part of the Scattering to the four winds. Determine the hectarage of Ireland (or its value if floated on Wall Street). And divide by 66m.
A minister of religion once responded to an atheists assertion that religion was the opium of the people by saying - "so what's wrong with a little opiium now and again? Answer - nothing! As long as one doesn't claim that opium is a religion. Nothing wrong with boosting tourism, as long as one is up front about it. Gabriel Byrne's difficulty seems to have been about not calling a spade a spade, and dressing a tourism promotion up as some kind of genealogical Eucharist Congress.
bobby;- why will you not answer the points I make?
I was planning to visit Ireland around the time of the Gathering start-up, but now I'm glad I didn't pay the airfare. I would not want to be anywhere near a "cultural" event sponsored by the likes of FOX Broadcasting, who have done more to stir up Irish-American bigotry than Fr. Coughlin ever did with his anti-Semitic radio show. Don't know what I mean? Then take a look at comments on Kerry O'Shea's article on Glenda Moore, and you'll see: "GhettoNuker" writes at Nov 10, 2012, 10:22 AM, "Whites need to get off their knees, stop feeling guilty, reject the leftist indoctrination, ... the LESS negroes on this planet the BETTER it is for White people.'" And "clocktower" writes on Nov 09, 2012, 12:08 PM: 'These kids are not Irish. They are Mulattoes. They lost their white heritage when the father mixed with a black.'" I can't be sure the "Gathering" won't cater to that mindset and ignore the "deep spiritual connection to the island of Ireland" that Joe Byrne and Gabriel Byrne both talk.
Woundedknee you have problems mate. Sad knobhead.
Jacers, I'm not reassured by your tale that the "Gathering" was the brainchild of American businessmen! I think both Mr. Allen and Niall have "lost the plot," and Gabriel Byrne comes closest to expressing my concern. The diaspora has historical and cultural ties to Ireland, as the centre of a vibrant culture. It would be good to come together to share the culture that unites the Diaspora with Ireland in spirit. However, "The Gathering" could attract an American-style football stadium crowd of Fox-News fuzz-brained xenophobes, like WoundedKnee, who hang out here. I don't begrudge Ireland any money it gets from this toxic crowd, but you know they "gather" the way flies swarm over roadkill. They "gather" for tribal rituals so they can come back to the USA thinking they're special amidst our multi-cultural immigrant masses. I notice that Denis Swanson, president of the Fox Broadcasting Company, is one of the businessmen who brainstormed the Gathering! The group represents Citigroup, HSBC, Alltech, Qantas and British Airways, Microsoft, Deutsche Bank in London,Intel, AXA, Coca-Cola, and--for the sake of including "culture"-- the manager of U2, Paul McGuinness, and producer of Riverdance, Moya Doherty. NOT reassuring!
molliemac: You're wasting your time rebutting booby's consistent lies. It seems he long ago has given up any attempt at independent thought. If the EU says it, it must be right, that's as far as his "brain" goes. He doesn't of course refer to the fact that his beloved Fianna Fail Party, the party that instituted the Mass Settlement of Ireland by Foreigners, in fact permitted the Mass Immigration of Poles and Eastern Europeans, even though the EU did not require it. So booby's buddies, the ones who gave Ireland Mass Emigration, are also the ones who gave Ireland Mass Immigration. Unfortunately this fool's gibberish is impossible to follow. In one sentence he tells us that "People from outside the EU can only claim social welfare if they have the right to remain in Ireland." (The fool doesn't realize that I already dealt with that). But then he says "People from outside the EU CANNOT claim welfare in Ireland". Which is it, you booby?
bobby; the rules concerning movement of workers in the EU are complex and not as you describe. The UK regs can be found on Government Dept websites.People coming to the United Kingdom from European Economic Area (EEA) countries do not have unrestricted access to UK social security benefits and tax credits.”… .People from outside EU...may be entitled to some benefits…”If you have come from another country to live here, you may not be able to claim all of these benefits, depending on your immigration status and your circumstances.…” The Irish rules do seem to be different. The EU Treaties state -..Free movement rights may also carry rights to remain (worker’s right to remain) and of residence, provided that EU citizens do not become a burden on the finances of the host Member State.
The Gathering ‘plot’ is unique in that it invites all Irish and Irish-of whatever countries and their families, family relations, friends and neighbours to come to Ireland in 2013 to enjoy what Ireland has to offer, to celebrate being Irish, search family roots, enjoy the beauty of Ireland, its culture and arts and help the Irish economy at the same time throughout a year-long concentrated event. The Gathering is personal-, family-, business-, Irish economy- and fun- and enjoyment-orientated, concentrated all at once in one year to bring an upward spike in the Irish economy. There are numerous unique events being planned as well as the usual national events and being prepared here at home by Irish people throughout the year throughout Ireland for the benefit and enjoyment of those who do come and visit to be part of The Gathering. Don’t miss The Gathering… be one of those who, in future years, will look back and proudly, with your regaling stories, say “Yes, I was there…” You’ll be forgiven for being misty-eyed as you do...
I agree with Paul Allen... GB has lost the plot. And a “plot” the idea of ‘The Gathering’ unashamedly truly is. It was one of the ideas put forward at a think-tank event called the Global Irish Economic Forum, first held in Farmleigh House in Dublin’s Phoenix Park in 2009 to explore ways to improve Ireland’s economy in the face of adversity (it is now a biennial event). It was attended by a great number of Irish Business people, a lot of Americans and Irish-Americans as well as others who’ve made it good abroad and at home, whose own ideas have been the backbone of their success in business (for a list of notable attendees, look up ‘Global Irish Economic Forum’ on Wikipedia – it will surprise you). The Gathering is just one of a number of bright ideas brought up by the Farmleigh House “gathering” adopted by the Irish Government as policy and I think it is a good one. It is far from being a scam, though there is a danger that some Irish hospitality providers will take unscrupulous advantage of it (and Irish people and its Government will be keeping close eyes on those who do attempt to scam and expose,name and shame them as such).
your grubby columns week after week in Irish newspapers defending the status quo are just sickening. And now I see you have a gig here to further promote your BS. PR companies like yours are parasites. Parasites on the body politic, so your grubby support for the the grubby gathering, which is only about extracting money out of the diaspora, whilsts thousands continue to leave every week, so that you may enjoy your comfortable living is a disgrace. parasites like you should be leaving. What a dis service to the diaspora to have this self satisfied prig writing for them about Ireland.
What a Hypocrite you are Woundedknee an immigrant yourself or from an immigrant family, aren't you lucky your family was welcomed into America. The EU is made up of 27 countries and like the US we all have free movement. Welfare rules in Europe apply to all nations set by the EU. They are NOT Irish rules. That just shows you haven't got a clue what you are talking about. People from outside the EU can only claim social welfare if they have the right to remain in Ireland. People from outside the EU CANNOT claim welfare in Ireland or any EU country. At its peak Ireland had around 500,000 Polish nationals living in the state, today that number is 150,000. You don't pay tax in Europe so what is your problem. Millions of Irish people live in the UK many of them receive social welfare payment and housing. Should the UK send them all back to Ireland? Get real you ass.
bobby; so what do you think of The Gathering?
bobby: Your comparison of the US and the EU is a truly ignorant one. The US is one country, the EU is 26 or 27, can't remember how many, and I'm not interested enough to look it up. You say you don't live in Ireland, I guess that explains why you don't know the Irish welfare rules, but it doesn't explain why you lie about them. I know them very well, because I oppose Mass Immigration to Ireland, and I know how easily obtained welfare encourages countless people from Eastern Europe and elsewhere to go as settlers to Ireland. You say "it's the EU", you're like all like all the spineless politicians who got Ireland into its current ruin, incapable of original thought. Your stupid vulgar insults to Molliemac don't hide your inability to answer her question--Why is it that foreign settlers continue to stream into Ireland even while young Irish men and women are forced to leave? And while I'm at it, you just offered us another lie, when you said that non-EU citizens cannot get welfare in Ireland. Of course they can, you liar. Working-class Irish housing developments are full of Indians, pakistanis, Africans etc on subsidized housing, free health, free education for their children, a cash payment for every child they have etc. etc. I've seen them muyself collecting big wads of welfare cash at the Post Offices. A lying creep and shill for globalization and conformity like you will never get away with it as long as I'm around to refute you.
Well my family have two views on this. We love most Americans and have been ourselves many times and with a few exceptions, have always been treated with courtesy and kindness. We have relatives in the States whose passage was paid by my grandparents in the 1920's. My grandparents wrote to them for 40 years with no replies back. In the 1960's one set came back continually until 2009. During this time several members of the family gave them a place to stay, fed them and brought them round the sights (even driving them from Dublin as far as Galway and Donegal). They would just announce they were coming. Not once did they put their hands in their pockets or even give us a thank you. One of the younger ones arrived with an "Australian she had picked up at Dublin Airport" and asked for a bed for the week. She also ran up a telephone bill ringing her parents in New York and we had to ring them and ask for the 200 dollars she ran up. They did reimburse us the money but we made up our minds never to put up with them again. She sulked for the week. At a family wedding in the local church she complained in a loud voice that the "women in the Irish family were all too goodlooking, too well dressed and thought highly of themselves "(she was wearing a sun dress, Jesus sandals, unbrushed hair, no panti hose etc.) Manners were also not her strong point. The second set of our Irish American relatives were the exact opposite, well mannered, stayed in hotels at their own expense and after introducing them to the sights and culture of Ireland, they hired a car and set off to see the country thanking us profusely and invited us to dinner before they left. They have been over many times since and we are always glad to see them. I would say to Irish American, dont treat the native Irish as stupid and grasping, we don't like it.
You sound VERY BITTER mary a bit like your grandparents. Some counselling for all that anger you have will help. I wish you well.
Before holidaymakers in the states complain consider how people from Ireland are treated in the states. Remember how Phoebe Prince was treated. Hers was not an isolated incident.Irish nationals are confronted with cruel stereotypes by states Americans. In the states mind-set ethnic prejudice is alright not racial prejudice. Good relations between countries go both ways.
Hey Bobby, I have a man, a real one, not one of you mommy's boys. My paternal grandmother, from Ireland advised all her daughters and granddaughters that too many Irish men were mama's boys, and they shouldn't date or marry them. I married a wonderful American man, who happens to be of Italian ancestry. He's not a drunk, doesn't whine and expect others to pay his way.
molliepmac EU rules apply to all nations in Europe, if you are from the UK you should know this. Every citizen has the right of free movement, work and benefits. People from outside the EU CANNOT claim social welfare payments in any EU country.
bobby; Going back to the subject of The Gathering. Would you agree that Ireland has alienated the diaspora over recent years. The arrogance of The Celtic Tiger, the ‘Plastic Paddy’ label etc. In the last 20 years it seems that anyone from anywhere in the world is welcome – unless you are an ‘O’ or ‘ Mac’ with an English or American accent. Have you not found that? Until now of course with The Gathering- sure aren’t we all as welcome as the flowers in May – bring plenty of money! Nice to see you – “when are you going back?”
Mary go get yourself a man
bobby;SO --You DONT have to work at least 6 months in full time employment before you can claim social welfare if you are from the EU. Why did you say that you do? What about people from non EU Countries? What are they entitled to? I dont get you at all. What is the point of dis information? Like you I am from the UK but I have Irish heritage and go over often. The point about immigration to Ireland is why is it so popular when there is such high unemployment...and therefore harder to find job? Answer because the Social Welfare payments are higher than many other EU countries.
Gabriel Byrne's correct, and Paul Allen and his fellow shanty shakedown artists are treating him, the same way they've treated US citizens of Irish ancestry for daring to speak out. It is just a continuation of the shakedown, and we're supposed to shut up and accept being exploited again.. but for US citizens with Irish ancestry like me, we've had our eyes opened for years now, and aren't putting up with it. We reject you pathetic bullies attempt to talk down to us, as though we're dependent on you to allow us to speak on the subject. My own Irish grandparents taught all their grandkinds that unfortunately too many Irish in the old country were as big, if not bigger a problem than the English and they were right. You know the price of everything, but the value of nothing. We're fed up with being mooched off, and we're telling you to get stuffed, for once and all.
WoundedKnee, Ireland is a member of the E.U. if an American from Utah wants to move to New York and work or claim benefits they can. The same applies here in the EU. If a German or Pole wants to move to Ireland they can the same way an Irish person can move to the UK or France if they wish. Irish people have the right to claim benefits from other EU countries they want to live in. Ireland is alot more expensive to live in compared to many European countries. And for your information mate im don't live in Ireland. What a dumbass you are, you say to molliepmac the only person they should listen to is you?? You plonker. I take it you live in the states, how do you survive in a country full of immigrants.
WoundedKnee;- yes I am well aware. State the facts and they dont respond. Lots of blinkers in Ireland. Sadly there are very few investigative media reps in Ireland who will state the truth so everyone can carry on living the illusion.
bobby> That's wrong, either a mistake or a deliberate lie. You can claim jobseekers benefits right from the day you arrive, providing you have been unemployed in another EU country. Of course the Irish benefits are maybe ten times what they are in Poland, so lots of Poles in Ireland don't bother working. Some even fly in every coople of weeks to pick up their welfare checks. They also claim welfare benefits for each child they have, even if those children have never been in Ireland --or don't exist! Plus if you can convince an Irish welfare officer that you are going hungry and have nowhere to live, you'll be given money and a rent-subsidized apartment. You don't have to be EU to get that, just a legal migrant. Of course if you're an illegal alien, you will also get housing and a stipend while your case is being decided--could be for years. Molliemac, the only person you should listen to on the crazy Irish Mass Immigration system is me, there are a lot of liars posting from Ireland. Bobby may be one of them.
bobby;that is good then. New immigrants must bring in enough money to live on in case they cannot get a job. Thank you for replying to my post. I hope that Paul Allen will reply to the one I addressed to him.
You have to work at least 6 months in full time employment before you can claim social welfare.
bobby; that is the point I was trying to make. Of the 72462 foreign nationals who gained PPS numbers how many also gained jobs and how many are on the dole?
molliepmac, i know the majority of people leaving Ireland had no choice, im just highlighting that many of them did. And had a job before they left. The PPS (Personal Public Service Number) you need to gain employment or receive social welfare. You cannot work without one. Its a National Insurance Number.
bobby; sadly not all are willing emigrants. There are still 420,000 unemployed. Half of the tax intake going to pay social welfare. As I understand it one has to have a PPSnumber in order to sign on? Half of the States running costs have to be borrowed. Is the situation sustainable?
GERANIUM many of these people are leaving Ireland out of choice, alot of them had a job in Ireland before they left. I know 3 people from Ireland that went to Australia for a year, they all had a job. So far this year 72,462 PPS numbers were issued in Ireland to foreign nationals from 171 countries, this figure does not include the children that came with them. Also 54,000 Irish nationals returned home. It is not all one way traffic as you may believe.
Paul Allen; YOU HAVE GOT TO THE HEART OF THE PROBLEM when you say "Once people leave these shores we tend to turn our backs on them. That needs to change. But The Gathering has never been about trying make up for years of neglect." However the remedy is to first make up for the years of neglect. Open a GENUINE dialogue with ALL OF THE DIASPORA - not just the few at the business end of the spectrum. Ask the diaspora what is important to them. We share the same heritage –INCLUDE them rather than EXCLUDE them. You will not need initiatives like The Gathering the bridge will be repaired. Yes there has always been a bridge and support and goodwill towards Ireland. The shame is that in the last 20 years or so the Irish at home have developed collective amnesia and decided that the diaspora are in no way Irish. I’ve even heard it said in Ireland that the people of Northern IRELAND are not Irish. A year ago I seem to recall THE IRISH POST in Britain asking ( with regard to Irelands present woes )on behalf of the UK diaspora ( the Plastic Paddies ) “ HOW CAN WE HELP”. Did anyone in Ireland bother or have the courtesy to answer that question?
Take it easy, Geranium, it´s not so bad. For every young Irish person leaving at Dublin Airport there´s a young foreigner coming in to settle the country. The population of Ireland isn´t falling, it´s just changing.
Gabriel Byrne spoke with integrity, sincerety and what is greatly lacking in the world to-day, honesty and truth. He spoke from the heart to RELAY THE COMMENTS FROM RECENT IRISH EMIGRANTS, who have been Torn from their country, through no fault of their own, but through the fault of a negligent government and corrupt bankers. That same negligent government have the audacity as one man put it to gabriel, to INVITE us back to our own country. Every day in Ireland, our Airport's are scenes of Heartbreak for family's being ripped apart and Forced to leave the country they love. Their are no Politicians at these airports to witness the pain endured, the pain they caused. Suicide is high, more pain on top of pain,borrowing money to pay for the funerals of a suicide victim, more pain, more debt on top of debt, bankers debt that Irish Citizens are paying. Gabriel spoke eloquently and with great love for his culture and the art's and most of all the FORGOTTON Irish emigrants. I applaud him. God save Ireland and it's People, as the present government in Ireland will not.
I don't think he misses the point at all. I think he get's it spot on. Your sanctimony is misplaced. If the Gathering is about building a bridge to the Diaspora, the poll both needs to be removed. If Ireland proved itself as a value for money destination more visitors would come. Interesting the day after the NFL game Dublin airport was at it's busiest. Rush to get out of Dodge?
Easy to see why this guy Allen is involved in Public Relations. The Gathering is PR, and badly done PR at that.
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