You say ‘bum a fag’ I say ‘have a cigarette‘-- lost in translation & struggling with Irish English
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 at 05:06 AM
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“Sorry?”
“Sugar,” I repeated, but my cashier's face was still blank. I fumbled for something eloquent and settled on, “You know. Um. Sugar?”
That seemed to do the trick. His expression clearing, he directed me to the appropriate aisle. I was just about to turn away when, slyly, as if he'd caught me out, he asked, “You're from the States, aren't you, love?”
I nodded. No point dissembling; American travelers are somehow visible from miles away. I don't even have to open my mouth sometimes before people around me know. Maybe we have an aura, or a scent, or something? (One local woman laughed at my confusion and answered, “You just look American!” Not that that helps.)
Fortunately, I don't think anyone cares that I'm foreign; I've been welcomed to Cork, Ireland – my home for the next three months! – as if I'm family. I've experienced any number of small kindnesses already, if you can believe it. A tour bus made a detour to let me hop off in the direction of my apartment, a couple of museums have given me random discounts, and a few strangers have offered me their cell (excuse me, “mobile”) numbers, in case I have any major problems while away from home. (It's Colorado, if you were wondering. Most people here ask for the specificity.)
It's magical. It's as if, despite any troubles the Irish have understanding you, they're already sure you're going to be great friends.
Still, the communication barrier's rough. My sugar incident is one of dozens – and words don't quite match up either! A line is a “queue;” sweaters are “jumpers” and pants are “trousers;” a “bap” is a bun while a “biscuit” is a cookie; someone asking to “bum a fag” really just wants a cigarette (!); and they get even stranger. One girl at a local Tesco's (a grocery store) asked me if she could borrow a “biro” twice before she took a look at my blank face and amended it to “pen.” (What?)
I'm picking up bits and pieces, though. I can tell you decisively that my favorite new word is the local expression “craic” – and yes, it is pronounced “crack,” and used in phrases like “so, where is the craic tonight?” Which, to a visitor from the States, can be downright alarming.
Its meaning: fun.
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jacersagain | Oct 13, 2011, 03:05 PM EDT
‘Sugar’ also means ‘sweetheart’ in Ireland... I’m a Dub and I’ve visited Cork many times and love the friendliness of the people in that beautiful city. Their accent makes their spoken words more like singing that speaking. Now, Tessie ‘sugar’, listen up: my thinking is that the Cork cashier WAS stupefied, probably aghast!) when you asked for the sugar. Y’see, Corkonians say ‘shoogar’ but Tess would have confounded the cashier in asking for “the shager”.
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ancavker | Oct 10, 2011, 01:19 PM EDT
George Hiberno-English as it is called is distinct from English as spoken in England similar in ways, but different.
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Towngate | Oct 09, 2011, 09:08 AM EDT
Tessa: I like the nature and tone of your post. It might have been better if the Boss had sent you to four different Cities. The comparisons would be interesting. Views based on Cork alone might give a distorted impression of Ireland,as that fine city is unusual even by weird Irish standards. ~~~ as George Dillon reminds you, remember you are speaking in English with various quaint Americanisms, to begin with. Add in English with various quaint Irishisms - and its amazing anybody can understand anybody! Put Accents and local Dialects on top of that and successful verbal communication is nothing short of a miracle! ~ The Key is not to fall into the trap of thinking that the Local term for something is the same as for the whole of Ireland, It will be something different in the next village! Remember too, that most Irish living today have had a lifetime exposure to Hollywood English through the Movies (Fillums) so if they say they don't understand you,call their bluff and offer to pay a dolar on the Euro! That will wake them up! The main thing to remember in Ireland is that although it is an alcholic society, great and wonderful things are waiting to be discovered beyond the meat-market pubs and clubs. Hope this helps! Good Luck, honey!
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Tooreenagrena | Oct 08, 2011, 10:04 AM EDT
You casn tell they are Anmericans because of their good teeth.
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bogsidebunny | Oct 08, 2011, 08:01 AM EDT
Just listen to a lengthy Irish conversation and count the number of times the word "LIKE" is used. (example: I headed off, like)..........gorgeous = awesome, lovely = nice, grand = OK.
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cillowen | Oct 07, 2011, 09:35 PM EDT
i done axed him - 'ow was yer troip - tirty toid and
turd. some amerikansis
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simplesandy | Oct 07, 2011, 05:31 PM EDT
here in Ireland
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simplesandy | Oct 07, 2011, 05:31 PM EDT
I never heard the term "your Grand " in England. but it is used all the time.
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GeorgeDillon | Oct 07, 2011, 03:49 PM EDT
Another tired old article about so-called "Oirish" English. Don't you people realize that most of those "quaint" phrases are actually just British English?
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Scrivner | Oct 07, 2011, 03:12 PM EDT
Bye the bye, what is the local idiom for "sugar?"
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Scrivner | Oct 07, 2011, 03:11 PM EDT
Regional differences are common in Mother languages vs those in the diaspora. e.g. in Mexico a bus is "autobus" but in Habana it's called a "waa-waa" (phonetic spelling). Just pronounciation can lead to confusion, too. We asked for directions just outside of Dublin and were told, "Go down to the satilite and turn onto the dual carriageway." We could see the dual carriageway, but did not see any satilites or dishes or the like, just a set of (traffic) lights. We had a good laugh at our misunderstanding for the rest of the trip!
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GraydonWilson | Oct 07, 2011, 02:12 PM EDT
My, my, Tessa — you're just hoovering one thing after another.
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Sparklet | Oct 07, 2011, 02:07 PM EDT
Any clues about the sugar thing yet? Ridiculous article.
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simplesandy | Oct 07, 2011, 12:43 PM EDT
I am American living in Cork Ireland for last 6 years and I love it. People are like family. Being a songwriter I have written many songs about Ireland. One of my favorite sayings here is "awe c’mon now , your taken the pi$$" lmao almost like taking advantage I guess. There is a lot I learned that you mentioned. That’s the great part of learning about another culture. And take into the fact that the young kids have their own lingo also. Like in cork the young would say "I will yea" as if to say you ain’t got a chance of that happening. Lol ,also @ BrendanDunphy . You are spot on. I was told unless you were born in Ireland you are not Irish. You might have an Irish bloodline to Ireland but you are not Irish. I love it here.
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