The only women Irish men buy drinks for are prostitutes
By: Gaelic Girl Mollie | Published Friday, December 21, 2012, 8:22 PM | Updated Friday, December 21, 2012, 8:22 PM
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| Mollie Kervick |
I’m twenty. I grew up in a tiny town in northern Connecticut and have been going to college in Maine for the last two years. That’s why city-living is a foreign concept to me.
Living in a city in a foreign country is even more out of my repertoire. I’ve been a part of very small, tight-knit communities for my whole life so it made sense that I had an urge to study in the second most populated city in Ireland. I wanted something bigger, more exciting, and quite simply, different.
Studying in Ireland was a given because of my strong Irish ancestry. I often tell those who ask that I am completely Irish, but to be fair (this is for my grandma’s), I am one-sixteenth German and I’m pretty sure I’m made up of some Scottish as well.
Prior to my arrival in Cork, I naturally had many expectations. Though I enjoy being able to walk around my college campus and recognize every face I see, I could not wait to be surrounded by new people. I expected that Cork, and University College Cork, would definitely allow this to happen.
In the short time I’ve been a city dweller, I’ve already realized that nightlife in the city is exponentially different than that at my college. The endless number of pubs and nightclubs make the various house parties spread across a small snowy campus seem silly.
Back home, if you walk into a party, depending on where it is, you know who will be there. There’s the athletic dorm where jocks have keg-parties in the basement, there’s the artsy houses where people drink and paint on the walls---the list goes on. Everyone knows that pubs and clubs have their own types of crowds, but I’ve realized there is so much room for variation here.
There are mixed groups, young and old, trendy and casual, at many of the places I’ve been. Because of this, there’s a greater opportunity to meet all different kinds of people who are interesting in different ways.
This new nightlife leads me to something that has been a topic of discussion between American women out in Cork:
Whether women like to admit it or not, we all love to be bought a free drink from a nice, attractive, man. It’s flattering. It means you’ve been noticed. And it’s free booze.
Now, after reading those last few sentences I wouldn’t blame someone for labeling me a cheap alcoholic. But I assure you this is not the case. In the short time I have been living in Cork City, one of the most popular topics of conversation between women at various pubs and clubs has been just this; why are Irish men not buying us women drinks?
Fact: According to Urbandictionary.com the phrase “Can I buy you a drink?” is “recognized as the best way to attract members of the opposite sex” because “let’s face it, who doesn’t want a free drink.”
It’s the classic pick up line which I have seen put to use in the states a countless number of times. Though the majority of Irish men my girlfriends and I have encountered have been relatively forward, quite adept conversationalists, and just plain sweet, we don’t know where the drinks are!
An Irish man may argue that he is just money conscious, and therefore not willing to pay for a drink for someone other than himself. Yet, I have witnessed in my first two weeks here that this is untrue. On my first night out my male American friend met two young Irish men at a pub and became friendly with them. By the end of the night, my friend, my heterosexual male friend, had received three drinks from his new Irish pals.
On a later day, I asked the generous Irish man who bought my guy friend drinks, why Irish men don’t buy women drinks.
He explained that “The only women Irish men buy drinks for are prostitutes.”
So, maybe it’s out of respect. They don’t want to be a factor in the intoxication of a woman. If so, this brings up a good point in drink-buying etiquette: A man should never buy a woman a drink if she is noticeably inebriated. In this case, the man would not be making a kind, flattering gesture; rather, he would be crossing the line into the realm of a creepy, prowling, hound.
Nevertheless; I would like to call upon my fellow American women to teach Irish men this simple trick. One technique my girlfriends have tried is described as follows:
Step 1: When at the bar ask the attractive man next to you, “What are you drinking?”
Step 2: Upon receiving an answer, explain, “Oh, I haven’t had that before.”
Step 3: Wait for the man to say “Well, I’ll have to buy you one then.”
Step 4: Say “Thanks!” and accept the drink if you desire to.
Though I have yet to test this approach myself, when I asked my friend how it went, she answered by quoting Ms. Elle Woods, the “Legally Blonde” sorority sister turned Harvard Law Graduate. When describing her “bend and snap” action, Elle explains “it has a 98% success rate of getting a man's attention, AND when used appropriately, it has an 83% rate of return on a dinner invitation.”
Ladies, if you’re in the same dilemma my American girlfriends and I are in, I urge you to try the technique. I would love to hear stories of success and failure (let’s hope not)! And men, if you’re within our age range, interested, and want an easy conversation starter, buy us a drink!
I imagine the variation in the type of nightlife won’t be the only difference I experience in my time living in the city.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.Joycey | Apr 04, 2012, 08:08 PM EDT
Women scream "equality" at every turn. When confronted with it, they "move the goalposts". As a woman I include myself in rounds. What's the big deal...grow up!
readmyredlips | Feb 10, 2012, 01:27 PM EST
Mollie, may I make a suggestion? Why not buy the guy you are interstered in a drink? We do live in a world, whether it be America or Ireland where women do not have to sit around and wait for a guy to buy the first drink. It may seem aggressive to a few but works like a charm. :)
RockNReel | Dec 12, 2011, 01:10 PM EST
The article has a very American slant on how she perceives Irish men and also how they behave on a night out. Your male friend who received free drinks should know enough about Irish culture to figure out for himself that he was being included in the Round. And when his turn comes around he then buys a drink for those who bought him a drink. Its the Irish just being sociable--thats all. Its done all over Europe . Are you saying you have never heard of it in USA? I have noticed that some Americans seem to think it comes with the territory and all drinks will come free ---not so. I have also encountered American women who visit Ireland and seem a little hesitant to put their hand in their pocket/purse at the end of an evening in a restaurant or pub or wherever the group they have socialized with have ended up,for a meal or a drink or a wine bar or whatever. They need to wise up to the ways of the world. Not just in Ireland its the same all over.
danielledevine | Oct 09, 2011, 02:35 PM EDT
As an obviously married American woman traveling in Ireland this past winter alone, I had the great pleasure of assuming that Irish men are gentleman. Whenever I was in a pub and struck up a conversation from Cork to Dublin, my pints were paid for without me even knowing. One evening in Kilkenny I sat in the pub for hours enjoying abundant conversation with my new friend John who bought all my pints and walked me back to my hotel at the end of the evening as it was rather late. He was a total Irish gentleman who seemed to most admire that I stayed home to raise my children and put a home cooked meal on the table most nights for my family! All the Irish men I met were kind, helpful and respectful! My conclusion is that Ireland is the best country to travel in as a woman alone!
spyder44 | Oct 08, 2011, 04:24 PM EDT
i would b honored to buy u a drink molly
kilkennyroots | Oct 07, 2011, 08:29 AM EDT
My beautiful Irish Mollie, Tis disappointing, sad but true, That even the road through heaven Has a muddy patch or two. The mean seem so abundant, Their heartless voices shrill, They seek to break your spirit, But I know they never will. It’s the good ones that are silent, But know that they are there, They’re in each Irish raindrop And the wind blowin’ through your hair. Just keep right on walking, And singing to those you meet, My beautiful Irish Mollie, For heaven’s below your feet.
abbym7180 | Oct 06, 2011, 11:33 PM EDT
Hi , I wouldn't worry so much ,I think she means and I know, that in america it's customary if you're chatting a girl up & interested much, to ask to buy her a drink , not several. I think that's what my fellow irish american gal is referring too. It means you're acceptable & well liked, dosen't neccesarily mean your on to stage two - or the bedroom next, as a few seem to imply or think. Just a social norm stateside, breaking the ice , so to speak, don't worry we're not all that bad, us american girls. Thinking about going over there as well for college, will definately get my own pint.:)
kieffer | Oct 06, 2011, 06:44 PM EDT
Hi Mollie, I know your writing is to be taken 'tongue in cheek' but on a more serious side; The Irish economy is hurting. Many pubs have had to close. a woman accepting a free drink should be prepared and offer to return the favor. He will likely decline but do offer. Don't be going to Ireland and trying to push your American ways!!! Irish men are a breed of their own and I love them just the way they are, and I'm American! Try to just blend in. They already think Americans are loud and aggressive.
Fightin69th | Oct 06, 2011, 01:58 PM EDT
This article has made the forum on the PeoplesRepublicOfCork.com, The lads are showing no sympathy
MarkRichey | Oct 06, 2011, 12:34 PM EDT
Sigh, afraid this would happen if you give US women a microphone, they'll insult entire nations without a qualm. Apparently, she is jealous of prostitutes. Not uncommon in US women, sad to say..
michaelcollins | Oct 06, 2011, 11:01 AM EDT
come to ballyfermot i will buy you a drink no bother
antoman | Oct 06, 2011, 10:17 AM EDT
@Sirpeter- She's lying there in the leaves curled up like a snake ready to strike. Pick your dog up in your arms bro.
sirpeter | Oct 06, 2011, 08:18 AM EDT
@antoman.Tis many a Corkman took a wash in the fountain weather he needed to or not.Give us the old dog bowl there Anto with a bit of water in it.Mollie looks like she could do with a drink. *There!! There!! You're a great girl!! *Pats Mollie on the head.
SleepyNonah | Oct 06, 2011, 07:23 AM EDT
Mollie, your male friend wasn't being "bought drinks", he was being included in "the round", a socially accepted norm in an Irish pub where rather than individually buying drinks we take turns to buy for the group we're with. Socially, I'd like to think Ireland has moved on from the out-dated practice of plying women with alcohol in order to be deemed worthy of a few minutes of their conversation or simply attracting their attention. This is where the 'prostitutes' comment is coming from: if the accepted way to gain attention from a woman is by remunerating her for her time, what separates that woman from a prostitute? The whole concept of men plying women with drink in order to flirt with them is as sleazy as your "technique" for getting a man to pay for your night out is cheap. That technique, by the way, reminds me of the way our little boy used to behave when he was 3 and wanted chocolate / sweets. He used to use the exact same line "oh, I've never tried that before" which usually elicited a response that involved eye-rolling. Why aren't you offering to buy the attractive man at the bar a drink instead? I've certainly known more than one Irish man who's used the old 'so, would you like to buy me a drink?' line successfully on American women :p
Daithiard | Oct 06, 2011, 04:24 AM EDT
Hi Mollie, I must take issue with you about your article. Your headline implies that ALL Irish men are seedy leeches that prey on drunk women for sex or trade alcohol for sex. The young "gentlemen" from who you got your tagline is hardly an example of Irsh men, perhaps you needed to broaden the range of people you met. Irish men are taught by the parents, sisters, brothers, friends that when meeting people, you talk, you are friendly, gentlemanly, that the spark is what is important, buy the girl a drink if she'd like one. If you have to bribe a woman to talk to you with free drink, she probably isn't worth talking to. I'm not suggesting you are not worth talking to, but these are the little cultural differences between the Irish and Americans, it is a precursor in States when in bars, not so in Ireland. Here's a little piece of dating advice to you American ladies, if you are having a nice conversation with a guy you like, in a nice way, ask him to get you a drink, or suggest getting drinks yourself, they will nearly always insist in getting them, if not, well there's a good indicator of what he's like. Another aspect that probably did not did not do you any favours is that you are an american student, and there are few Irish man that hasn't been taken for a fool by an american lady who accepted all the drinks in the world, then when asked for her phone number, they will run a mile, good enough for free drinks, not good enough for a date,it's happened me more than once! I'm not suggesting all American young ladies are like this, but this experience has made me and most men slightly wary of american ladies.
warlocks | Oct 06, 2011, 12:55 AM EDT
Sounds like this Gal is a little hard up.for a Date. Besides how many Drinks will it take before she Passes out ? lol no Guy wants to get a Gal Drunk if he has any thought of a Romantic Night with her.
bogsidebunny | Oct 06, 2011, 12:39 AM EDT
Welcome to the Land where men are men and the sheep are nervous my American lady friend!
SingleDonald | Oct 05, 2011, 10:52 PM EDT
I accept Mollie's perspective. If I offer to buy a girl a drink, it is to get to know her better. I am not attempting anything lewd, and would not make the offer if she already had too much to drink. Mollie, you should be more tolerant of older, unmarried guys offering you a drink, as well! There are plenty of nice, unmarried Baby Boomer & Generation X guys around, so you should be more flexible on your, "...if you are within our age range.." stipulation. After all, shouldn't that be okay, especially in a place where different ages congregate?
kilfinnane | Oct 05, 2011, 10:49 PM EDT
Let's see, in this article the young writer asserts that Cork men are "interesting," "adept conversationalists and just plain sweet." She specifically rejects the notion that you are cheap and concludes that you are instead chivalrous, for you believe it would be disrespectful to offer to buy a woman a drink due to the undertones involved. The only thing that hints of controversy is an explanation provided to her by one of your own. Yet you relentlessly insult her. Fine hosts you are.
Dunkelly1 | Oct 05, 2011, 09:50 PM EDT
An Hilarious article, loved it.One might be tempted to say, sure it's the recession and the lads are not flush, but true enough they can buy rounds for the boys no problem! You forgot to mention how hilarious Corkonians are, but then again perhaps you have pointed this out quite nicely!
dwilson94 | Oct 05, 2011, 09:24 PM EDT
There is no such thing as a free drink or free dinner here in the U.S. in the type of situation you have described without something eventually being expected or hoped for in return, not in my experience.....
PolinDeB | Oct 05, 2011, 07:40 PM EDT
Yeah.. perhaps if you didn't expect drinks the Irish lads would buy them for you ;0 They're very stubborn you know ;0
jamieLM | Oct 05, 2011, 06:35 PM EDT
Cultural/regional differences. I'm from the very friendly Midwest and when a guy sees a woman he'd like to talk to and "check out," he'll often offer to buy her a drink to engage her in conversation. If she accepts, it just means she finds him interesting enough to have a conversation with. If she turns him down, it means she's not interested in getting to know him and he moves on and looks for someone else he finds attractive. If she accepts a drink from him, she'll usually offer to buy him a drink if the conversation goes well. Buying drinks for someone doesn't mean that sex has to follow - sometimes, but usually not. It's just a compliment that someone is interested in you enough to try to get to know you. It's a way of "breaking the ice" in order to have a conversation with someone. If I weren't married, I'd buy antoman and sirpeter a drink just so I could chat them up and welcome them to the U.S., if I met you in a bar in Chicago. Just good old American Midwest friendliness. Give Mollie a break. She's just trying to understand Irish customs and I'm sure she doesn't mean to insult anyone.
phinsman | Oct 05, 2011, 04:59 PM EDT
I find the perspective of woman expecting men to purchase drinks for them as a very traditional view on male and female roles from the 50s. I would never expect a man to do this for me... there should be no gender barriers like there were before modern times.
pegmckpt | Oct 05, 2011, 04:48 PM EDT
GGMollie--you're a fool to think anyone should buy you a drink or to resort to trickery. Buy your own damn drinks! What kind of Irish raised you up? I tell you my 100% Irish parents taught me to be self-sufficient and never expect a man to buy me anything without a commitment! Silly girl--grow up and take care of yourself and write something of importance.
irishfairyy | Oct 05, 2011, 04:47 PM EDT
gosh! what do these yank girls think of next? im half irish (full irish mother) and i am always bought drinks when i visit ireland. in fact i get drinks sent over to my table from irish men who later make eye contact then politely gesture if they can join me. love irish men! generous macho hunky men who dig deep in their pockets to buy drinks for women they fancy! note!-women they fancy! xxxx
irishfrank | Oct 05, 2011, 03:46 PM EDT
ITS BULL SHxxx
kilkennyroots | Oct 05, 2011, 03:37 PM EDT
Good points CharlyAnne. Keep in mind that Mollie could have simply concluded that Irish men were cheap, but she made the effort to inquire so that she might better understand the reason behind this cultural difference. The headline of the article is not her conclusion but the explanation provided by the young Irish man with whom she discussed the matter. Isn't that what makes cultural differences so interesting? We expect that which we are accustomed to and we are surprised when something else happens. The wise ones, like Mollie, try to learn from the experience. She even did so with a sense of humor. Hope we can expect more of the same from the rest of the Gaelic Girls.
mamaginnty | Oct 05, 2011, 03:31 PM EDT
A cheap shot IC with that headline, and Molly how can you walk up to a complete stranger and expect him to buy you a drink. Irish men would have to find you attractive or interesting before they would buy you a drink. Irish girls do not need those sort of tips to get a man, you would have to be desparate for a man, or desparate for a drink to follow that example.
joycean | Oct 05, 2011, 03:08 PM EDT
Hi Mollie, You might like to see if you can find a recent IC article, Ten things I Disliked about Irish Men." This was one of them. BTW Maine and Conn. are lovely places.
antoman | Oct 05, 2011, 03:03 PM EDT
Sirpeter puts it very eloquently because he had a wash earlier in the fountain on the Grand Parade.
CharlyAnne | Oct 05, 2011, 02:55 PM EDT
Congenial travelers know cultural norms vary. You need to study, not show up in the midst of someone's home insisting it be done your way. Some Americans are atrocious at that, and seem blind to our artlessness. But Ahhh, I will raise a pint to the times and the fine Irish men who enjoy a dance, a drink. A giftI Not an obligation. Silly flirtatious fun. The truth is now, the expectation is on both folks. I miss that initial feeling of gallantry and chivalry which Irish men in particular are so very genius at extending. I don't miss disentangling conversation when the expectation is anything more- and THAT happens everywhere. I'm not clear yet on why IrishCentral does keep posting such letters as this one. I would give this ?author? letter writer? a few more years to get it right, she's clearly quite young.The responses to her here tell their own tales. IMO, Irish men are gorgeous in general, and other than good session music, are the best reason to go into an Irish pub. Good Irish writers, musicians in particular, in these same pubs, are some of the most talented people who roam this planet. I miss it terribly when I am not there. American women are not generally that value laden term "whores". Woman across the globe can be sexual when they choose, without being morally corrupt. But rounds might just be the way to go.
sirpeter | Oct 05, 2011, 02:50 PM EDT
Most women in Cork would see this as a guy trying to get his leg over.We don't want to give mixed signals.Buying eachother drinks is a very serious ritual and not to be taken lightly.It is certainly not to be used as a way of flattering a women.Very bad move.Corkmen use charm and humour at first and if say all the right things.We'll buy you a pint then.And if you open the top button of your blouse discreetly on purpose.It will be have another pint love.
PaulCurran | Oct 05, 2011, 02:47 PM EDT
So it is unadvisable for Americans to offer to buy a young lady a drink in Ireland for fear that she might be insulted?
antoman | Oct 05, 2011, 02:29 PM EDT
Jaysus, if Georgyboy were here, and he was in Cork, Patricks street four weeks ago. He'd do all four of 'youse guys' to use his parlance like. :)
rachheals | Oct 05, 2011, 02:27 PM EDT
Everything about this story is wrong!! 1. Men are not there to buy you drinks 2. Irish men are just as generous as other men, but the majority are just not so interested in buying their way into your pants as they're more interested in having the craic with their friends 3. I've never met nor seen a prostitute in a pub in Ireland, and if there were you don't need to buy them drinks as that kinda defies the point!!!!
antoman | Oct 05, 2011, 02:25 PM EDT
Wanted. Corkmen to buy four American female paupers beer.
donegalcali | Oct 05, 2011, 02:13 PM EDT
Did you try to get into rapport first, with these guys you are trying to get a drink off? I think that trying to get a drink of fellas as a way of validation is not really good love. If you detach yourself from any outcome and just jump in and be spontaneous you will have some special conversations. The feminists here in NorCal will have you believe buying a drink for a woman is an insult to her, aswell as opening doors. Buying drinks for women is old fashioned. If a guy buys a drink for you then it means something especially if your looking for it. Mollie! The game has moved on.
NiGhabhainn | Oct 05, 2011, 02:12 PM EDT
Hi there, I live in Cork! Im Irish and I think maybe its you that needs to have the lesson on courteous drink buying in this country! Irish men never like to seem too keen, us Irish women are of strong character and would only see it as weak if not a little korny that he offered us a drink (unless were best buddies or already dating). In this country; Irish women are the hunters in most cases, so to be hunted ruins the buzz factor! You will only let yourself down and your fellow country women by waiting around for a free drink. When it comes to paying for stuff, everything is done on an equal level. Manners speak louder than any wallet :-) Best of luck with your studies and if I see you out and about in Cork city, I'll be sure to say hi!
antoman | Oct 05, 2011, 02:08 PM EDT
@Kilkennyroots- Try saying that to me after I've bought you a few jars.
akellyny | Oct 05, 2011, 12:55 PM EDT
First of all, as a reporter, you should leave yourself out of the story. Second of all, as a woman in this modern world, if you expect a guy to buy you drinks you should also expect to return that favour. I know I do. You buy one, I'll buy one - simple and fair!
TiocfaidhArmani | Oct 05, 2011, 12:06 PM EDT
Come to Dublin, leave those classless bog men alone and we'll show you how us city boys treat ladies!
kilkennyroots | Oct 05, 2011, 12:06 PM EDT
Good Heavens automan, such a strong reaction? I believe you have proven Mollie's point in exploring this cultural difference. You immediately equate offering to purchase a drink for a young woman with an expectation of a sexual quid pro quo. As Mollie suggests, that is a cultural reaction that explains why an an Irish man's reluctance to offer to buy a drink is to avoid appearing disrespectful, not because he is cheap. Since Mollie comes from a culture where the offer to buy a drink is commonplace and not considered disrespectful, it is natural that she would notice the difference. I thought she did a nice job exploring the issue, and doing so in a lighthearted manner. Certainly you owe her an apology for suggesting that she is a "sexually promiscuous American lass."
Ballyphehane1 | Oct 05, 2011, 11:42 AM EDT
I reckon the guy that said irish guys only buy drinks for prostitutes was messing with your head. I'd put that down as a throwaway comment- probably said with a bit of bravado - probably wasn't even sober when he said it. I'm from Cork City. I don't know if it's a cultural thing, or maybe a personal thing, but I have never gone to a bar expecting some random stranger to buy me a drink. If I did get to know someone and they bought me a drink - I'd always feel I should get them one back. I would expect Cork people (men or women) would prefer the rounds system a lot more than someone sponging a drink off them. I know I would.
MrMidtown | Oct 05, 2011, 11:39 AM EDT
Hi Mollie: I enjoyed reading about your experiences in Ireland. Will you be contributing to IrishCentral on a regular basis? When will we hear from the other Gaelic Girls?
eamon1958 | Oct 05, 2011, 11:21 AM EDT
Rule Number One: learn the concept of 'rounds' Rule Number Two: learn the local customs, and don't expect everyone in a foreign country to behave 'like they do at home Rule Number Three: See Rule Number One
michaelcollins | Oct 05, 2011, 11:02 AM EDT
ask a dublin fella if he would buy you a drink he will defo think your looking to have sex with him
astarr9 | Oct 05, 2011, 10:46 AM EDT
Go easy on her lads, don't you all remember what it was like to be bought a drink on a night out? I can certainly agree that American men are more likely than Irish men to buy a girl a drink on a night out. Maybe it is just a cultural thing, but this girl is Irish American and this is an Irish American website so you can't criticize her for expressing her opinion! This is just a bit of fun and you shouldn't take it so seriously!
KittyMurphy | Oct 05, 2011, 10:40 AM EDT
Good job Mollie! It's about time someone brought up this blatant fact. Loved the article. Really funny. Having lived in Dublin most my life and recently moved to the US I have to say that guys in the states are a lot quicker to put their hands in their pockets to treat ladies. Regardless of whether their minds are in the gutter or otherwise! Look forward to reading your next blog. Good luck with all these grouches out there!
MickRegan | Oct 05, 2011, 10:27 AM EDT
All i can say is you should have come to West Cork! TBH most fellas will and do buy a girl a drink, but only after a chat and getting to know who they're talking to first - that's the secret!
JamesDempsey | Oct 05, 2011, 10:25 AM EDT
this article is a load of BS
fusciacork | Oct 05, 2011, 10:22 AM EDT
For heavens sake girl, grow up and buy your own drink. Irish lads are not taken with your small minded thinking. Are you saying your friendship and your riveting good company has to be bought. Well if that be so....good luck lads and steer clear.
seagreen | Oct 05, 2011, 10:14 AM EDT
erieshark, Sorry to say this, but Ireland does have its share of hookers !! As for the gal from Maine, surly she knows that the guys there throw quarters around like they are manhole covers, and an occasional BUD Light is all you can expect from a guy under thirty
Springfield9 | Oct 05, 2011, 10:13 AM EDT
Fer Christ's sake ....we're drinking not courting YOU!
katdog66 | Oct 05, 2011, 10:04 AM EDT
As an Irish American woman, I find this article stupid. Buy your own drinks!!! I hear no mention of you buying drinks for anyone. I'm really sick of people always looking for something.
Gearoid | Oct 05, 2011, 10:02 AM EDT
Pathetic, poorly written and full of so many generalisations and stereotyping, I don't know where to start. The ruse you suggested to get get men to buy a drink based on your own attractiveness is sad. Shallow American sorority culture aside, there are many reasons why men (not just Irish men) don't immediately buy a women a drink is not because they dont want to part with money, it is because most men are clued on to the type of games women play in bars to get a free night out. In the past I have been appalled by the number of women who freely admit to leading men on in a game to see how many suckers they can fool. Apart from it being a very dangerous game, it is demeaning to most women who know better. You state that the heterosexual men bought their males friends a drink and left you out is very strange. Strange in that, in company or the Irish round system, even a complete stranger, whether male or female, would be asked if they would like a drink. If you are a stranger, the proper etiqutette is to refuse. Only a tight fist would accept. So the fact you were not asked would you like a drink speaks volumes and can only mean that they did not like you. .........Judging by this piece, I am not surprised. You view is from an American perspective and you seem to have a resistance to want to accept that the social norms in other countries are different from the States. The only mitigating factors in your favour is that you are only twenty years of age, so grow up and have a long hard look at your value system and principles because you have a lot to learn my dear!!
GraydonWilson | Oct 05, 2011, 09:59 AM EDT
Mollie, the second-largest city in Ireland is Belfast, not Cork. Would you write off the occupied Six Counties? Also, though you don't say so explicitly, it appears that there were more than two women involved in the discussions you reference. In such a case, it would be conversations "among" women, not "between". You appear to regard Urbandictionary.com as a more valued source of knowledge than University. Pity, that. Do you really think you have the requisite standing to teach Irish men something when you clearly did not catch the undercurrent in the Irish man's response to why he wasn't buying you drinks? Are you such a beggar?
erieshark | Oct 05, 2011, 09:42 AM EDT
There are prostitutes in Ireland? Heaven, forbid. Why would they need prostitutes when there are American girls prowling the bars? Ah....glad I have left the bar scene to domestic life.
antoman | Oct 05, 2011, 09:16 AM EDT
broaching*
antoman | Oct 05, 2011, 09:15 AM EDT
You have suggested with this article that you want beer from us lads in Cork..in return for what? You could not be more blatant in regard to what you expect if you stood below at Cork harbour waiting for a sheltering trawler to come to port. Look here love I could buy you a few beers and see you home but because I am not a lascivious teenager braching twenty something I can turn on my heel and report the fact to IC that that is exactly what I did. I will now in future regard yours and your cohorts articles here as nothing but a high jinks sexually promiscuous American lass looking to be fed beer in return for sexual liaisons with Cork men. Goodluck.