The Keane Edge


The Keane Edge by Brendan Patrick Keane

Talking about "illegals" and "anchor babies"

Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2010 at 11:47 PM

RSS


Recent Posts

Archives

submit to reddit

My Dad had his green card by the time I was born, but he was an "illegal" before that for a brief stint while his visa was expired. That was long ago. My Mom never had a problem with her immigration status and had all the right paper work. They both vote now, and hold American passports--not a bit less American than anyone.

I "confess" this, because I just watched Bill O'Reilly talk about "anchor babies," which are the children of immigrants (like me!). I don't quite fit the criteria for being an "anchor baby," but there was a minute there listening to him that I was looking over my shoulder for the INS.

O'Reilly likes to put the fear of something in you.

Am I an anchor baby? I asked myself that question in a moment of existential panic. If I'm not an American, I asked myself in this flash, what could I be? Ireland won't have me, and frankly they don't need anymore people right now.

In the segment that got me panicked, O'Reilly talks about the Fourteenth Amendment which gives citizenship to people born within the United States no matter their parents' legal status.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph, I'm a fugitive I thought. It was just a feeling, however--emotional collateral damage from the possibility. No one likes to be slighted, however subtly. "Anchor baby" and "illegal" are not subtle.

I'm an American citizen, not a bit less than the patriot himself. That's why I don't want police asking for papers of citizenship. I'm a freedom-loving American, don't tread on me.

The Arizona law would have given police the added responsibility of border enforcement, which is a Federal duty. If an American citizen does not have his birth certificate on hand, that citizen would have to be treated just like a non-citizen who does not have their birth certificate on hand.

We have to protect others' rights to save our own. Not having to carry around proof of citizenship is a right we should keep.

That said, if a person is here illegally, and rapes someone, that needs to impact their chances of being let stay in America.

So-called "illegals" can not be deported en masse, however. It would be a humanitarian outrage that would shame the US forever.

Blanket green card giving is unfair, because there really are armed drug gangs at war with American law enforcement. A kind of amnesty, however, has to be extended to people in the media known as "illegals." They need a secure route to legitimacy without the illegality sword hanging over their head in the lead-up to filing an application. Not doing so only delays all sides.

I don't think of people pursuing the American Dream in America today as illegals. That's not fair to the history of this particular place, and because American politicans and businessmen have promoted border crossing of unregulated labor. The fault lies with the familiar cast of lovers: politicans and their corporate masters.

If I were to sum up my stance on "illegals" as a near "anchor baby" myself, I'd say everyone without the required paperwork, in America right now, is an "applicant." The messages are too mixed up. American businessmen are incentivizing illegal border crossings. Yet there is no pejorative word for them, and all the fault is put on people just doing what any poor person would do.

In strategic terms, immigration reformers can continue insulting people and criminalizing them and causing division or they can use the language of compromise now and early to get the deals made.

Division comes when an American hears someone call someone else a negative name like "illegal." Just for the cause of stopping the insult, Americans will impulsively defend unprocessed mass migration if they think a particular human being is being lumped-in and insulted or threatened. Calling people "illegals" only sends more Americans to the see-no-evil/hear-no-evil camp on this issue, because we all know and love people struggling to get-on in this land of immigrants without the right piece of paper that says its ok.

That's not to say "let 'em all in!" There is some kind of application process. Usually that happens outside the US, but it's got to happen inside for this generation. It's just the way it is.

If border-concerned citizens referred to "illegals" as "applicants" it would change the verbal dynamics of the debate. The more "illegals" is bandied about, the more it drives Americans into the do-nothing camp.

With a little more respectful language and careful implementation, undocumented "illegals" are transformed from undocumented criminals into documented "applicants." Applicants want to impress their neighbors in the new land they want to call home. Criminals are sociopathic from hopelessness. Hope is embodied in an application.

If we must call them "illegals" why not give the Americans that incentivized cheap labor a nick-name too?

The Americans that profit from "illegals" prefer unwinnable and uncompromising debates that cause intractable division so that nothing changes for a long time more.

The debate becomes uncompromising (never ending) when the language becomes undiplomatic. It's time for applications.


26 comments

Next Page 1 of 2 pages
DennisQ: Judging by the mess they've made of their own country, I don't think we need to worry about what the "native Irish" (the few that are left in Ireland) think about us.
Native born Irish? Maybe they straighten out their own counrty before scratching their head in somebody elses.
Attitude studies are the building blocks of politics, as Bill O'Reilly well knows. Nixon's "Southern Strategy" was a fairly direct appeal to Southern racism. Ronald Reagan followed suit by announcing his candidacy with a states' rights speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi - a place notorious for murdering civil rights workers. Success with racial pandering has led to "dog whistle politics" - messages that the rest of us can't hear, but that racists clearly understand. The Irish, who've just recently become white, now include people whose attitudes would make them welcome in the Ku Klux Klan. A number of them post here, a reality that must make the native-born Irish scratch their heads at these ones' thick-headedness.
I notice there's a lot more psychoanalysis of the other side in American politics, than actual debate. Demographic statistics seem more pertinent to this debate than attitude studies.
You're in luck! Prof. Bob Altemeyer's book "The Authoritarians" is on line at his University of Manitoba website. He defines and explains Right Wing Authoritarianism in a very readable, almost folksy style. Dr. Altemeyer even offers a quiz for you to check your own authoritarian attitudes. Sample question: "___ 22. This country would work a lot better if certain groups of troublemakers would just shut up and accept their group’s traditional place in society." Agree/Disagree? Right wing authoritarianism has been studied a lot. Adorno studied it in 1950 to explain its role in World War II. Curiously, one of its characteristics is superstition which, we've seen here, is the belief that the numbers bear you out even when they don't.
Where is the link showing the statistics that people who oppose illegal immigration are also in favor of foreign military interventions?
That's great DennisQ: "It is generally true that people who oppose what they call "illegal" immigration also support foreign military interventions that are clearly illegal." I prefer legal immigration with a LOT more Irish visas because Irish have been much too restricted.
It is generally true that people who oppose what they call "illegal" immigration also support foreign military interventions that are clearly illegal. It makes it difficult for them to argue that their real concern is for upholding the law. True enough, there are numbers of people who are at least intellectually consistent in their opposition to illegality - but there aren't enough of them to invalidate a general assertion about the hypocrisy of the right wing. What's consistent among right wingers is that they support whites over non-whites. Nobody's really fooled when they protest that their intentions are pure. We all know that non-whites include Mexicans as well as Arabs. Here's the consistent logic of the right wing: When Mexicans are the transgressors, uphold the law! When Arabs are victims of American transgression, well then, some "higher" principle takes precedence over the law.
Hospital administrators certainly know the difference between marginal costs and allocated costs, even if PEC2000 seems to believe these are one and the same. An allocated cost per unit (in this case, births) includes every cost factor whether or not it increases with each unit. That would mean heating and maintenance and licensing; and other components of fixed overhead costs. That is the only way to arrive at a figure of $12,000 per unit, because it surely doesn't cost $12,000 each time a baby is delivered. The marginal cost is the additional cost incurred every time a pregnant woman enters the hospital for care - a figure that's bound to be significantly lower than $12,000. The appropriate cost basis depends on the purpose of the accounting. However, under no circumstance is it correct to take the allocated cost per unit and multiply that figure by the number of units - that results in a huge overcount. It is significant that PEC2000 continues to use figures in a misleading way - it suggests she's not really looking to contribute to an honest understanding of the issue, but to justify what sounds like an absence of humanity. The figures for Parkland Hospital aren't differentiated between allocated vs. marginal costs either. We are left with the entirely false impression that the taxpayer foots the bill for foreign freeloaders. That is simply not the case. The taxpayer pays the fixed cost of having an obstetrics facility at Parkland, plus the marginal costs of each additional delivery - a much lower figure. I don't know what that figure would be, but it's not the allocated cost per unit multiplied by the number of units, as she incorrectly stated was the case in El Paso. Perhaps she was not being dishonest; but she's certainly misinformed.
I tried to post a link but I couldn't. You can google Dallas Morning News article entitled: Parkland will treat all moms-to-be. The article puts my initial stats to shame. Have a nice day.
If people going to site costs we need detailed statistics and analysis. Pass along links if you have them, as I will be researching stats too. I'm curious as to how much it does cost to provide services, and how much this offset by economic stimulus immigrants bring.
Oh and Dennis, even if it is just one case a day of an undocumented immigrant having a vaginal birth without any complications, the cost will be $12,000 on average (for just one birth procedure alone). Now, once a day... multiply 12 grand by 365 days and it comes out to be about $4,000,000/year that the hospital needs to somehow cover. But if you can sponsor at least one birth, all the power to you.
It's really stupid for DennisQ to try to conflate opposition to illegal immigration and support of foreign wars. Pat Buchanan wrote an entire book attacking federal ineptitude in stopping illegal immigration, and Pat Buchanan opposed the Iraq War. I oppose illegal immigration (and indeed most legal immmigration in the case of Ireland) but I opposed BOTH Iraq Wars, and demonstrated against them. I bet you were warmongering with the rest of the pseudo-liberals back in 1991 and 2003 DennisQ, when I was on the streets singing Give Peace A Chance. You're a total sham.
We're not talking about Iraq. We're talking about illegals taking advantage of the healthcare system. They get benefits that we, as legal citizens, have to pay for. If I go to the hospital, I have to pay a big deductible - no freebies for me. I pay for my insurance every month from my paycheck. So, I pay for me and I pay for the people who enter this country ILLEGALLY so they can get FREE healthcare. Why don't all of you who feel so generous offer to financially support these Illegal immigrant families? Put your money where your mouth is. They could sign up with you when they cross the border. You could financially support these people and pay for all of their healthcare and other needs. Oh, and just because someone opposes ILLEGAL immigration doesn't necessarily mean they're in favor of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You're making a broad generalization. These are 2 different issues, just like LEGAL immigration and ILLEGAL immigration are.
That sounds about right Dennis. Do you think that doing epidural takes 5 minutes, like an assembly line? It probably takes at least an hour with prep time, the procedure itself and follow up, plus there is paperwork, and god forbid if there is a complication or a ceserean. If there is a specific women's maternity hospital, the average number of deliveries in that hospital increases. And if women come in to deliver without much prenatal care than more than likely there are complications. So, probably about 3 to 5 patients a day will need anesthesiologist's services. Plus, I said most of the day, please do not switch my language around to fit your opinion. As for knowing who is undocumented, it is very easy. First question when you enter a hospital, can I see your ID? Do you have an insurance provider? But, if you think all of this is reasonable, than why don't you volunteer to foot the bill.
Next Page 1 of 2 pages




Log into IrishCentral with your Facebook account


or sign-in directly

E-Mail:
Password:
 Remember me Forgot my password
Not a member? Register Now!
print this article Print
email this articleE-mail