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The Keane Edge by Brendan Patrick Keane

Ground Zero mosque? Not my favorite idea, but this is NYC

Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2010 at 05:27 PM

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[A follow-up piece to the article below was published on 10 August, called Coming around on the Muslim Cultural Center near Ground Zero.]


In New York, if you ask: Should we build a Muslim interpretation center near Ground Zero? you get two kinds of answers.

Bloomberg's "yes" is the kind you expect from a good judge. He reminds us that we have real estate laws in New York and you can not go discriminating against people that want to buy property. Similar principles apply to zoning, but there's more room to wiggle there. His answer is the official New York answer. I like it when society has principles you can count on.

Bloomberg made the Landmark Board's decision into a photo-op with the Statue of Liberty in the background. He wanted to make a point about religious freedom.

The mosque is not just a mosque, it's a multi-storied complex, that will interpret the events of 9/11. It seems more like an Islamic 9/11 Interpretation Center, than it does a house of worship being built for a community in the neighborhood. As a multi-purpose facility, it will become part of Ground Zero, and act like a museum with exhibits. As there were so many Muslim victims of 9/11, you would want their story to be present at Ground Zero with everyone else. With this new interpretation center (with mosque), Muslim victims of the attack will have an exceptional facility to tell their story.


Now ask the mayor another question. Ask him if we should build an Irish American Museum at Ground Zero?:

Here's where you get the second kind of answer.

The second kind is the one a lot of Irish American New Yorkers would give if asked whether they want to see a Muslim Museum at Ground Zero: no. Irish Americans are rightly sensitive about any perceived triumphalism by Muslims at Ground Zero in opening what would become a highly trafficked tourist attraction for the interpretation of these events.

This is not a Freedom of Religion argument. This is about shaping the Ground Zero zone. It's about what the city wants to zone for that area. There's already a mosque within walkng distance from Ground Zero. Building a mosque where there is no religious community demanding it, means the building is being built specifically with the 9/11 memorial in-mind. That's a zoning issue for a special space, that intends to do more than provide religious santuary. As such, it is appropriate for a zoning board to determine how such a facility would fit in with the vision for the Ground Zero area, as is normal in city planning.

It's better to keep the museums surrounding 9/11 about everybody in New York rather than specific victim groups. This is the basis of my initial feeling of objection to building an interpretation center there. It's not universal enough. It's inflammatory, not because of the terrorists, but because it gives one set of victims special recognition. Muslim died in the towers, as did many other groups.

Not all groups will have a center very near Ground Zero to present their story.

The British Garden of Remembrance was opened when the queen of England cut the ribbon last month, years ahead of the opening for the Ground Zero memorial. You have to expect this kind of premature mythology-grabbing from those who wear crowns of diamonds snatched from Hindu statutes. One group is exalted of all the victims.The British Garden, not the mosque, was the first step in what will become the politics of recognizing the loss of some, while forgetting others.

A Muslim interpretation center is an interesting idea, and will probably turn out splendidly, but it is bothersome that the Greek church destroyed on 9/11 will not be rebuilt, and that other groups won't have the resources available to the Muslim community or the British, to tell their story of that day.

This is about zoning the Ground Zero area properly, and it seems those decisions have been made.

I could make a good case for building an Irish American Museum at Ground Zero, and in the spirit of fairness, such an idea should be embraced as warmly as the Muslim Interpretation Center is being.

There were as many Irish American New Yorkers killed on 9/11 as other ethnic groups, and many of the Irish were killed running back up the towers to save others. But it feels wrong to say that. They wouldn't want to be singled out in especially. It's for everybody to grieve.

The most poignant reason for an Irish American museum in New York is the Firefighter response of men like Mychal Judge. Irish history in New York is wound up with the Fire Department. Less importantly, but still also heart-breaking to Irish New Yorkers--was the loss of a major chunk of our history on 9/11.

In the ground of downtown New York, they unearthed artefacts of the early city, and found early Irish slums and objects among the refuse. Precious bits of our ancestors' lives emerged including items that showed their wish to maintain "respectability" while living in squalor as Rebecca Yamin has written.

The artefacts were bound to become an exhibit on Irish New York, and Archaeology magazine did a story called Digging about it. The 9/11 attacks destroyed many of the relics and much of the documentation that catalogued these items. We've been left in some cases with no clue about what was lost.

When they found the Irish artefacts and other materials from the Five Points dig, they were stored in the basement of World Trade Center 6. When the WTC was destroyed, some of the objects to survive were excavated a second time, while rescue workers searched for the remains of friends and neighbors of all ethnic backgrounds.


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Buid a mosque fine but NOT AT GROUND ZERO.
I recently heard on Good Morning America that a Greek Orthodox church, St. Nicholas, was destroyed on 9/11. Why has this community not been given a green light to rebuild? Will there be as many fundraisers for this church? Somehow, I don't think so. How did it get so bad? Why do we have to kowtow to everyone?
I love the inscription on the child's cup from the Five Points..."Who turned aside her aged head....And even tears of gladness Shed... Because I gave the Beggar Bread" It's a true example of Irish ideals of empathy and compassion from years gone by.
im getting sick just hearing that people talking about how we can not hurt the muslims feelings on this issue. the mayor is playing political football with this issue too,that also infuriates me too. as a carpenter in new york city who lost a cousin and a few friends when the towers fell,i take the fact that this iman wants to built a mosque and a place where he thinks they were victorious as a major slap in the face to all the people who worked on the recovery and all the famlies of lost ones and to the workers that are working down there as we speak to rebuild this massive attack on the united states. before there is any ok on this mosque,there should be more time given to investigate this socalled man of peace,and to find out where this money to build this mosque is coming from. when a construction contractor is applying to build in new york city he is given a certian list of questions he has to answer before he can even build. why? is this building being given a fast track to be built and why are all these politicians backing this mosque in the name of religious freedom? we are still recovering and trying to build a peaceful and respectful place where we are attacked and why are they letting this mosque get in the way. hopefully, our mayor will come to his senses and side with the people and unions that helped him get elected again.
Remember the people lost in the towers not anything or anyone else.
Building an interpretation center, is one thing, building it 2 blocks away from Ground Zero, is quite another. It doesn't feel right.
They should allow the Mosque to be built,---but NOT in NYC, but in Mecca where it and all the towel heads belong. The US is becoming so PC that it will drown in its own swamp of it's own making.
What about the Muslims that were killed in the World Trade towers? This is an attempt to bridge the divide between Muslims and other Americans - give them a chance NY! The terrorists were misguided Muslims whom a Muslim friend of mine said "were going to hell not heaven" Not all Muslims are our enemies!!!
Brendan Patrick Keane, I agree 100%. I think building a mosque where so many died at the hands of Muslim Terrorists, is not supporting tolerance and inclusion, but keeping the wounds open by manipulating NYC into thinking the Muslims are getting a bad rap, just by beingMuslim. In a 60 Minutes interview on September 30, 2001, shortly after the September 11 attacks,Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf said, "Fanaticism and terrorism have no place in Islam", and went on to say, "I wouldn't say that the United States deserved what happened, but the United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened." When the interviewer asked Rauf how he considered the U.S. an accessory, he replied, "Because we have been accessory to a lot of innocent lives dying in the world. In fact, in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA." In an interview on New York WABC radio in June 2010, he declined to say whether he agreed with the U.S. State Department's designation of Hamas as a terrorist organization. Nothing he has done or said shows me he is consistent with simplicity of faith and sensitivity towards others. I agree with you in this article.
Tolerance is one thing but it goes both ways. They could, and really show healing, offer to move a few blocks farther away. Most, I think, would change their feelings over this. Another thing I saw on ABC News last night was the Church called St. Nicholas is still looking for City permission to rebuild. The city or the state even sold the land that was earmarked for the rebuilding to the Port Authority, further delaying the construction for more years. Yet there is no tolerance, compassion or expedition for the Christian Church (not sure if it is a RC or other christian religion). Seems many speak out of both sides of their mouths.
Simply put, it just adds insult to injury and psychologically would do far more harm. Forget trying to be politically correct and think about the real effects this would have on NYC's population.
We really should have a new investigation into the events of September 11th, this one by people without a conflict of interest. The last investigation was directed by Philip Zelikow, a personal friend and co-author of Condoleezza Rice. Needless to say, Zelikow steered the investigation away from Rice's many failures to anticipate the attack or to develop a counterstrategy. The new investigation shouldn't be afraid to name names and identify critical mistakes that our enemies were able to exploit. We've spent billions and billions of dollars on national defense, only to see one system after another collapse in a real world situation. Who's responsible? Are the clowns who failed to prevent 9/11 still around?
My goodness, as a Californian, I am quite aware of the absurd importance New Yorkers tend to attach to their city, but just how much of New York was made sacrosanct by the "events of 9/11," anyway? The Muslim center - which includes an art center and so on - is TWO BLOCKS away from the twin towers site. Apparently it was hit by part of a landing gear, which in some people's eyes, is like a piece of the True Cross. While we're on the subject, however, St. Nick's a Greek Orthodox church was damaged irreparably that day, and those who wish to rebuild it have been told it is too tall to rebuild. NOT FAIR. So get on it, ye saintly New Yorkers.
Two blocks away is a long distance in a crowded town like New York. And how about letting New Yorkers decide? Finally, how can this be any worse than sharing a neighborhood with Wall Street. Now there's an institution that has ruined the lives of millions of Americans.
BTW: Irishmen are to be excluded from the mosque ... but you all can visit the "cultural" center!
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