Leave in silence - what Ireland expects you to do
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Here's how it works in Ireland. If you have basic competency and can sit upright at a desk without falling over you could have a lifelong career in government or the civil service, say.
But you’ll need contacts. If you know someone who knows someone, you’ll go far.
It’s the only way you’ll go far, in fact. In Ireland, contacts are king. Talent is almost always surplus to requirements.
There’s a good reason for this. Talented people have a way of joining a group of perfectly contented people and inspiring them to create positive opportunity and change. That’s what makes talented people so irritating.
We just don’t like change in Ireland. Any kind of change, political, social, religious, philosophical or scientific.
In fact, we dislike change so much we were the last nation in Europe to join the Industrial Revolution and the modern age. Even then we took our time.
For most of the 20th century Eamon de Valera’s fondest wish for us was to return us back to the 15th. You know, back before all that bother with Queen Elizabeth and the Planters.
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Back before things got complicated. Back to when maidens danced at the crossroads and we were poor but happy.
He didn’t succeed. It was enough he tried.
If sentimentality and hogwash are the twin poles of Irish political life, and they are, then basic practicality is the third rail that you must never ever touch.
Practicality implies change. Change is unpredictable.
It’s not because we’re stupid. We’re among the most sophisticated people on the planet.
It’s not because we’re lazy. Irish people have a work ethic that surpasses many Europeans.
It’s not because we’re misguided. We know nonsense when we see it.
It’s because for centuries we have been forced to occupy the passenger seat as a much more powerful nation or institution drove our national car.
It took us centuries to drive out the empire that put our ancestors to the sword, that purloined our land, that made us the tenants in our own nation and all but eradicated our language.
And what did we do when they were gone? We reflexively wrapped ourselves up in another empire.
We exchanged royalty for papacy. The horse changed riders but the lash, as Yeats wrote, went on.
For centuries we watched foreigners in fabulous crowns and jewels and then crosiers and cassocks write our story and tell our story and shape our story.
In fact we waited so long to tell our story ourselves that now that the time has come -- and the time has come -- we’re dumbstruck.
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How else to explain the curious resignation and silence that is the hallmark of Irish national life?
How else to explain the silence over what befell our neighbors during the Famine, the silence over who did what during the Civil War, the silence over who inherited and who got shafted, and the silence now over the tens of thousands forced to emigrate -- to pack up all their hopes and dreams in an stuffed suitcase -- and leave possibly never to return?
We’re dumbstruck when we should be roaring. Because Ireland is in a crisis like never before.
It’s hemorrhaging a new generation as its citizens are forced to foot insurmountable banking bills they did not run up, while the hopes and dreams of our emigrants are lost to the airports and the ferry docks.
Our political class has always expected you to leave in silence because by God, if you’re honest, you always did. Maybe you were glad to go too, after one too many nights spent looking into shop windows at all the things you couldn’t afford and would never.
But you didn’t expect to miss the other things quite so much, like the craic and your old pals and the view from the top of the hill head and the local lough, eh? That was an unexpected and sore old hoke, wasn’t it?
Eamon de Valera once thought that if you stayed at home you’d probably be happy enough with the All-Ireland and the Premier League and your wee pint on a Friday. Like the dutiful and comely little drones you are. He knew that real revolution, politically or socially, wasn’t Ireland’s style.
After all, even the 1916 Rising had the seeds of its own ineffectiveness seemingly written into the plan. Because in Ireland we habitually prefer gestures and symbolism to strategy and fact.
There’s much more wiggle room when things are various. There's more cover, too. It’s how we roll.
But somehow along the way we’ve somehow become the caretakers of our own destiny, not the authors of it.
We have allowed our political class and our out of touch establishment to become more like museum guards than political leaders. Just as in a museum, they know how to silence us when we get too rowdy.
But it’s becoming increasingly apparent they no longer know how to make change.
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RobinForester | Feb 11, 2013, 06:55 AM EST
Curtisj:
I have managed to find the Times Announcement you refer to. It was the London Times of June 26, 1845, that pointed out: The Irish are suffering a real though artificial famine; the land is fruitful enough, nor can it be fairly said that no mans (labour) is wanting. The Irishman is disposed to work; in fact, man and nature together do produce (food) abundantly. The island is full and overflowing with human food. But something forever intervenes between the hungry mouth and the (food owner).' What the writer was saying is Ireland has the food, but the Irish people have no money to buy it, so it goes elsewhere and they starve. Ireland at that time was producing wheat, corn, dairy produce; it had herds of cattle, pigs, goats and poultry – with enough food to feed three times its population but no money to buy it. During the 18th Century, some 1,500 absentee landlords owned 3.25 million acres of Irish land as an investment, whilst a further 4.25 million acres was in the lands of 4,500 *IRISH landlords.
Despite all your talk of Irish love, romanticism and charity, it needs to be said that even today, 168 years after the Great Famine, 900 000 victims lie in unmarked known graves and no Irish group has come forward to erect a simple gravestone on these thousands of graves for these people. May I ask have you Curtis Johnson ever given one penny to any food charity working in Africa today, or is it all talk and show and no money ever changes hands.
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RobinForester | Feb 11, 2013, 04:05 AM EST
Curtisj:
Three times you have expanded my original posts into a diatribe against the Brits by adding to them, it appears you blame the English for the ills of the world. I must call this your bad neighbour attitude to all. It appears from what you say no matter who got killed they deserved, when Shergar was kidnapped and killed by the IRA it was only a 'animal bag of bones'. I admit the British did start the slave trade, yet the descendants of those slaves are grateful to them today for doing so. Your life is occupied by the collecting of Irish victim stories, why not come with me to the slums of London, Glasgow, and Manchester to see how the other half lived, maybe you can read up on Charlie Chaplin-s mother, or my grandmother and mother, or the British workhouses and deportation orders so you will balance your knowledge of hate with the realisation we were all living in poverty then, it was the norm. William Wilberforce from Hull carried the day and persuaded the lawmakers to abolish slavery, he was unable to abolish drought and potato blight but would have done so if he could. If your sympathies are with the IRA then I imagine the Irish citizens killed at Eniskillen and elsewhere are for you 'just another bag of bones' like Shergar. To me they were people whose rights supercede any terrorist cause. Good day.
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curtisjohnson | Feb 10, 2013, 11:17 PM EST
The West Indies North American slave trade was engineered in its entirety by the anglo mercantile oligarcy. The british state only officially did away with it when it no longer contributed significantly to its coffers. Granted, I have no idea what any of this has to do with the Potato famine other than thousands of indigenous Irish had already been victimized by the anglo slave trade - keep in mind that this occurred during an ostensible time of peace when the indigenous Irish were encouraged to return from hiding to the cities only to have their children kidnapped into slavery (the other victims had already been herded from their homes into Connaught). When dealing with the british terror state and its total lack of fidelity, times of "peace" often exceed the horrors of open warfare.
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RobinForester | Feb 10, 2013, 10:23 PM EST
CurtisJ
Irish farmers did export food to Britain in order to sell their crops at the market price, maybe they were worried these foodstuffs would be seized and they’d get nothing. As one reads your posts you can detect the anti-British sentiments you hold, so would it be correct to say these sentiments cloud your judgement to such a degree that anything you say is tainted with prejudice. I assume you’re an American citizen well how do you react to knowing that during the Irish famine period being discussed 1845 and 1852, slaves were openly sold in street markets and the slave trade was ‘in full swing’, here are some comparative timeline dates to digest:
1847: Slavery ends in Pennsylvania. 1850: In the United States, the Fugitive Slave Law of 1850 requires the return of escaped slaves to their owners. 1862: Treaty between United States and Britain for the suppression of the slave trade. 1863: In the United States, Abraham Lincoln signs the Emancipation Proclamation, which declared slaves in Confederate-controlled areas to be freed. Most slaves in "border states" are freed by state action; separate law freed the slaves in Washington, D.C. 1865: U.S. abolishes slavery with the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution; about 40,000 remaining slaves are affected. So it appears you are more than willing to badmouth the Brits over Ireland, but totally ignore that America was at that time 20 times worse. I ask you to note that slavery was outlawed in the USA 15 years after the Irish potato famine, but it was another 20 years or more before any slaves were actually freed, they had no where to go accounts for this. Perhaps your logic is faulty and ruled by sentiment and old hatreds that contain far too much myth and not enough fact.
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curtisjohnson | Feb 10, 2013, 09:19 PM EST
RobinForester just gives us her fabricated anglo supremacist view of the famine which by default blames the indigenous population. The famine was celebrated by the mouthpiece of the british establishment, the London Times, and britain's highest concentration of military personnel was in Ireland at the time (imagine the costs). Maybe the british terror state could have at least reimbursed the indigenous population the forced tithes to the anglican "Church" that they had paid for over a century.
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seanomelb | Feb 10, 2013, 06:20 PM EST
Robin trying to rewrite history and places the blame on Irish farmers for the graet starvation. It is easy to see that she/he is ignorant of anything Irish. Woundebrain makes an "A" of himself again
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anglo-norman | Feb 10, 2013, 05:41 PM EST
And what did the Catholic Church do to help
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anglo-norman | Feb 10, 2013, 02:43 AM EST
The sight of two men kissing & holding hands is something no child should see. Do it in their own homes but not in public!!
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eiriamach | Feb 09, 2013, 11:41 PM EST
"Power structures are changing." Yes. But they don't realize how much their Catholic Church has changed since the hopes ignited by Vatican II failed to come to fruition and a far-right backlash set in. The culture-warrior themes championed by the USCCB and the Irish bishops are very recent changes. They've abandoned the Catholic politics of earlier generations that made progress for the Irish and the nation in the USA. If the changes had anything to do with the life of the Spirit or authentic religious feeling or compassion for one's neighbor, they'd make some kind of sense. But unthinking obedience, tolerance for criminal behavior in churchmen, and intolerance for people still seeking progress make no religious sense at all.
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curtisjohnson | Feb 09, 2013, 11:27 PM EST
What the article is unconsciously referring to is the anglo oriented Dublin establishment - the cancer in Irish society which produced the industrial estate Ireland/property bubble nightmare and the disgraceful bank bailouts. Ireland needs desparately to be freed from the toxc chains of the anglo-sphere for real merit, leadership, and vision to arise. @Schlobo - you post is self referential - your leaders are gradually disenfranchising and even replacing (arguably for the better) the anglo population who are increasingly relying on government for subsistence.
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Joe Glackin | Feb 09, 2013, 10:55 PM EST
Why would people fear Gay marriage and is this a sign of progress or moving on. Theres those who are held back and some who are free but disillusioned.Then theres those who have have an interest for similar to themselves and disregard for any who have reservations by implying all sorts. Marraige is very important and was always between man and woman. Why cause all this moving on lark and ridiculing others, that cause distance or worse, creating anti gay bigot scenario.Why can you have civil unions as many non gays do. Bringing in the name marriage is a society issue in depth. Theres two extremes and gay marriage is not an issue that holds civilization or people back. While it is creating controversy over nothing, it divides and holds people from moving on. If theres that much energy on Gay marriage,would it not be more useful energising protests against Iran whose barbaric laws execute gays.
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seanomelb | Feb 09, 2013, 07:38 PM EST
Seanmor and his ilk on IC fail to crawl out of the the auld early twentieth century Irish Catholic mould. They have been browbeaten by priests and nuns and have now independent thought processes. Modern thinking, individual thinking is anathema to them. They carry the chains of a failed church and can only find solace in attacking those who have moved on. they see gay marriage and LGBT's as something to fear. IF they respected other peoples beliefs they would be better christians. Power structures are changing and Seanmor and co. are dragging their mentally contrived chains and holding the rest of us back.
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Joe Glackin | Feb 09, 2013, 04:01 PM EST
I disagreed with this writers belief the few occasions I commented .Whether he felt his view had been weakened or something wrong with comments getting through, mine dont appear. This writer as Iv pointed out to him before, divides rather than unites by his approach. Just like now typical anti-catholic bias using the word "Papacy" like Loyalist/orange bigots do. To talk of our ancestors struggle against "the sword" is so hypocritical. It was faith of our Fathers that kept the spirit alive to resist. His contempt for the Church is because of his pro Gay Marraige belief.By manipulation he uses the word "silence" to gain support/approval comparing ,the Civil war, emigration , present banking crisis?????. His humor is good and applicable "the view from the top of the hill head and the local lough," and that part is so very true.
Like many inc myself at times we need to blame someone/thing for our problems or how one perceives them. The catholic Church, Devalera's cattle embargo Cromwell ,Jack Lynch ,the Christian brothers school beside the chapel, sometimes the French deserted us.etc This will prob not go up either but we cannot deny our Celtic Gaelic Irish and faithful identity. This was so hard fought for by resistance against brutal oppression through our Celtic Spiritual nature combined with St Patrick's bestowed Christian faith.As this old saying goes..... Chuir a dhia Naoimh Phadraig a bheannaithe chugainn le gchreideamh a choinneail ar saoirse spioradalta......This roughly translates to.. We got our faith from St Patrick to keep our Spitit of freedom hopes alive.
The writer above could be a conspiring closet Devalera volunteer eyeing up maidens to dance on the crossroads.
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eiriamach | Feb 09, 2013, 11:20 AM EST
Uhhh the Catholic complainers, a.k.a. Smyrnian, misneac, seanmor are at it again, complaining that the author has expressed an opinion distasteful to Catholics. Will someone explain to me how these complainers think, please? On the one hand, they are forever sniping, "The Catholic Church is not a democracy. If you don't like the rules, get out!" Then on the other hand, when people who don't like the rules do get out, the complainers snipe that the people they've kicked out have an "anti-Catholic bias"! LOL. It seems they have not caught on to how political debates work: they have the right to drive us out of their groups if our values and our moral sense don't match theirs, but they do not have the right to silence us. "Leave in silence"??? No, no one has the right to make that demand: Ireland can't demand it of the emigrants, nor Catholics of ex-Catholics. Freedom of conscience, freedom of speech -- think about it -- and try to unsnag yourselves from your ridiculous, self-contradictory demands.
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