GOP’s 'War on Women' is real - keeping the government out of your uterus
By: Cahir O'Doherty | Published Thursday, August 30, 2012, 9:16 AM | Updated Thursday, August 30, 2012, 9:16 AM
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| Arizona Governor Jan Brewer |
Just when women were starting to think that what happened in their own uteri was their own business, along comes the Republican Party to remind them that GOP style “small government” can find its way into the most unwelcome places.
Forget keeping the government out of your bedroom. Now, thanks to an unprecedented new Arizona law you'll even have to struggle to keep them out of your ovaries, ladies.
In case you missed it, a controversial new law was signed by Arizona Governor Jan Brewer last Thursday with the Orwellian sounding name of the Women’s Health and Safety Act. Experts say it effectively bans abortions after 18 weeks and declares that a woman could be pregnant even two weeks before she had sex.
You read that right. Arizona’s new law starts the clock on pregnancies at the woman’s last menstrual period, which of course could be two weeks before fertilization even happened.
The new law bans abortions at 18 weeks of pregnancy, which is at about the same time a doctor would begin to perform ultrasounds to detect abnormalities. That means if any are found the mother will still be expected to carry it to term, even if they are expected to die within hours or days of birth.
As goes Arizona, so goes the Republican Party. But here’s another fact -- 77 percent of Americans don’t think birth control should be up for debate at all, according to a Bloomberg national poll.
Full disclosure -- I’m not a woman or heterosexual so clearly I’m not directly affected by this controversy (and when I read about legislation like Arizona’s I’m thankful of the fact because I think it might enrage me in a way that I might not enjoy).
Mitt Romney has also recently revealed that if elected he plans to shut down Planned Parenthood because he doesn't agree with its mission (and I imagine he wants to cut all spending on programs that don’t directly benefit millionaires).
Now if I was a woman that is something I would probably find quite upsetting, since curbing women’s health services has never struck me as a good idea.
I know what’s coming now, of course. The name-calling. It seems conservatives in the U.S. have long ago decided that anyone who supports abortion rights anywhere under any circumstances will be told they have no morals, no conscience and no guiding principals.
I can certainly understand their profound opposition to abortion, and I can agree that it is hardly a procedure that anyone should pursue lightly, but I don’t believe that anyone actually does. I cannot accept that a complete ban on it would only benefit society in the ways that they insist.
Last week we learned that GOP Congressmen (and now vice presidential candidate) Paul Ryan and Todd Aiken are against abortion even in cases of rape or incest, which they apparently see as unfortunate but final methods of contraception. That kind of absolutism seems high handed and cruel to me, punishing the victim and in a real sense re-victimizing her all over again.
Ryan and Aiken have also offered us two deeply problematic new definitions of sexual assault, with their calibrated talk of “forcible” rape and “legitimate” rape, which rightly appalled the nation. And for the record, their bill to redefine rape as “forcible” had 227 Republican cosponsors.
There have been other recent Republican moves to make abortion expensive, difficult or even unobtainable.
Texas, Oklahoma and North Carolina have all passed transvaginal ultrasound mandates, whereby any woman seeking an abortion is now mandated by the state to have a painful and invasive procedure that seems expressly designed to humiliate her.
Perhaps most startling of all was conservative pundit Rush Limbaugh’s recent decision to demonize Sandra Fluke as a “slut” and a “prostitute” for daring to suggesting that mandating insurance coverage for contraceptive pills would be worthwhile, since they help women with a number of health problems quite unrelated to their contraceptive properties.
Limbaugh, who reportedly makes about $40 million a year, lost multiple advertisers for his outburst, which most people rightly saw as shockingly sexist.
So I am not sure why, in an election year, the GOP have opened this multi-pronged war on women’s reproductive rights.
Republicans say they champion “small government,” but it’s amazing how invasive that “small government” can be to your personal life.
It seems to most observers that today’s GOP is more interested in tackling the challenges facing the nation with faith rather than reason. Perhaps it because we live in a time when many of its most ardent supporters now claim that men and dinosaurs once lived peacefully together on Earth, that our planet is only 6,000 years old, and that any moment Our Lord will return -- so why worry about unemployment or health care or the environment or even tomorrow?
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.peterson | Sep 02, 2012, 07:40 PM EDT
The "War on Women" is just another stretch on the real truth by liberals Z!!
maireadinmelb | Sep 01, 2012, 10:14 PM EDT
Cahir, just pointing out that all pregnancies are measured as from your Last menstrual period. That is the confusion between a 40 week pregnancy and the old 9 months pregnant! Anyway any woman who votes for this archaic FREEDOM HATERS deserves what she gets! There is no excuse for governments or churches to tell a woman what to do with her body! Funny Women can have guns but no choices in regards to their bodies!!
seanomelb | Sep 01, 2012, 08:55 PM EDT
Vote for Romney/Ryan and put your watch back 300 years. Maybe they'll reintroduce the "Inquisition".They have already begun by having an inquisition on the rights of women,the poor and the middle classes
eiriamach | Sep 01, 2012, 12:43 PM EDT
From the NY Times, 7/10, "Meeting Contraception Needs...": "A new study by researchers at Johns Hopkins University [published in 'Lancet'] shows that fulfilling unmet contraception demand by women in developing countries could reduce global maternal mortality by nearly a third, a potentially great improvement for one of the world’s most vulnerable populations." You can call opposition to women's health needs "pro-life" as though to suggest stupidly that women are opposed to "life"! But the hypocrisy of this word choice is plain: you really mean "let women die," don't you? And the fetus within to die also, often enough.
eiriamach | Sep 01, 2012, 12:29 PM EDT
Gearoid4, please name just one educated MD who uses "pregnancy" to describe a fertilized ovum that washes out of a woman's body without implanting in her uterus. Or quote one certified text published in this century and used in a medical school curriculum that defines "pregnancy" in such a way. I'll wait while you search.... Your use of the clause "life starts" is idiosyncratic, to put the point mildly. We are talking about living cells. The question is when a conglomerate of cells becomes an organism capable of life outside the uterus, without the life-giving resources of a woman's body. A malignant tumor is also "life," yet you'd rush to a surgeon to have it removed. Your choice of words illuminates nothing and misrepresents the issues. It's strange indeed that you call a voting record that would condemn many women, girls, and fetuses to death a "pro-life" voting record.
Gearoid4 | Sep 01, 2012, 10:18 AM EDT
@Eiriamach "Only Roman Catholics consider a fertilized ovum to be a pregnancy before implantation..". It is not only Catholics, but well informed doctors and biologists as well. The "pro-choice" lobby want us to believe that life starts at the point of implantation, to distract from the reality that practically all modern birth control pills have the potential to cause early abortions i.e ability to expel the fertilized ovum from the uterine wall before it can implant. We know that life factually begins at conception. Senator Ryan has been entirely consistent in his pro-life voting record and will bolster the chances of the GOP among Catholics and other people who take their Faith seriously
EphraimKibbey | Aug 31, 2012, 07:49 PM EDT
@TexasMJM - Hadn't you heard? The current GOP politicians are LIARS! What they said yesterday is not what they say today and that will not be what they say tomorrow. In 2010 they SAID that if we elected them, they would bring us JOBS. Instead they have brought us 32 House bills banning the use of tax money for abortions, countless state bills limiting women's rights, bills that disenfranchize the poor, the elderly and students, bills that take away union rights and state budgets that fire countless teachers, firemen and policemen. Had they just not done the latter, we would be at 7% unemployment right now. The GOP want control of the government (in America an institution designed to protect the rights of the people) so that they can disassemble it returning power to the wealthy. They care more about what they get from their lobbyists than they do about America and its citizens. SHAME ON THEM!
hollabackgurl | Aug 31, 2012, 07:40 PM EDT
It's a 'selective surgery' is it? Women who are raped just elect to have one do they? And under a Romney/Ryan administration they'd have two leaders who want to ban the process outright. Gee, there's some progress for you.
bob40wil | Aug 31, 2012, 06:22 PM EDT
What a bunch of BS, have all the abortions you want but why should insurence co.'s pay for it except if the mothers life is at stake. Other them emergancysa it's selective surgery.
eiriamach | Aug 31, 2012, 04:38 PM EDT
TexasMJM has a marvelous immunity to facts. Which of the following, drawn from an 8/27 NY Times editorial, does TexasMJM think is not factual? ". . . Mr. Ryan’s sweeping opposition to abortion rights. He has long wanted to ban access to abortion even in the case of rape, the ideology espoused in this year’s Republican platform.... Mr. Ryan also co-sponsored, along with Representative Todd Akin of Missouri, a bill that would have narrowed the definition of rape to reduce the number of poor women who can get an abortion through Medicaid." From Maureen Dowd's NY Times column: "Ryan co-sponsored [with Akin] the Sanctity of Life Act enshrining a fertilized egg with the definition of 'personhood' and supported a bill Democrats nicknamed the 'Let Women Die Act,' which would have let hospitals that get federal money deny women abortions even in life-threatening circumstances." Clearly, Ryan's position is not just aligned with Akin's but even more lethal to women--so much for the value of "Life."
yoginiha | Aug 31, 2012, 04:23 PM EDT
Most people, including medical professionals, count the first day of the last menstrual period as the first day of pregnancy. It's more difficult to know the first day actual conception. I think the article seems a bit picky and tries to find everything negative it possibly can about AZ law. As someone who has had 4 miscarriages in a row, I have no sympathy for a woman who gets a late term abortion. 18 weeks is quite late. By then the baby is kicking and the ultrasound can show that the baby is either a boy or a girl. Bless AZ for passing this law.
TexasMJM | Aug 31, 2012, 04:22 PM EDT
The attempt to link Paul Ryan to Todd Aiken's comments concerning rape are nothing more than cheap election year politics. Ryan has stated clearly, firmly and repeatedly that "rape is rape, period." Guess the writer of this piece missed that. And concerning the issue of planned parenthood and the so-called "war on women", its not that most conservitives blindly wish to remove all access to women's health care. It's that most of us object to the government funding it through an organization that is the largest abortion provider in the country. I fully support the provision of contraception and affordable neccesary services to women, and providing them through government subsidy to underprivledged women. I feel that its our duty as a society to provide for the underpriviledged amongst us. I just think we DO NOT need to route these services through planned parenthood, the most prevalent abortion provider in our country. Defund Planned Parenthood and use that money to provide direct aide to women's health care. I'm SURE all of Planned Parenthood's supporters would step up with funding.
eiriamach | Aug 31, 2012, 02:46 PM EDT
Also, Donegal6, where in the USA is infanticide legal? You write about "a 6 mos baby which are killed everyday." Or do you mean a six-month fetus? If you mean third-trimester abortion, it is very, very rare, illegal almost everywhere except in life-saving emergencies. WHERE are you getting your "(mis)information"? You need to find more reliable sources. Ah, but Catholics just make up the science and statistics to fit their politics, right?
eiriamach | Aug 31, 2012, 02:38 PM EDT
BUT, Donegal6, only 30-40 percent of fertilized ova implant in a uterus. Unless a fertilized ovum implants, physicians cannot consider the woman pregnant because there is no way a "loose" fertilized ovum can develop into an embryo or fetus. Only Roman Catholics consider a fertilized ovum to be a pregnancy before implantation! For this reason, the 50% or greater loss presents a serious theological challenge to Roman Catholicism's positions on contraceptives, abortion, etc. Nature expels most fertilized ova from the womb. If they are ensouled from the instant of fertilization, why would the Creator set up nature to kill half or more of them? The older RC doctrine, that the fetus was "human" or had a soul from the time of quickening, made a heck of a lot more sense.
plynchhayes | Aug 31, 2012, 11:13 AM EDT
Re: the state laws requiring transvaginal U/S - why oh why are the various medical organizations not weighing in on this? Such unwarranted intrusion into medical practice, and not a peep from any of them! They certainly haven't been afraid to be politically active in the past!
bogsidebunny | Aug 31, 2012, 09:45 AM EDT
All you Liberal, Democrat "choicers" are very welcome to come on over to the Emerald Isle and demand the Irish politicians declare themselves "PRO-CHOICE". You'll be run out on a rail. Funny how certain Liberals (The Irish) are only liberal about things they believe they should be liberal about. And abortion ain't one of them!
Donegal6 | Aug 31, 2012, 06:44 AM EDT
About 85% of fertilized ovum become viable fetus. So killing the fetus will kill a forming human 85% of the time. In the US woman have the right to do this and unless the supreme court changes that it will be the law of the land. People on ventilators with no hope of getting off are more dependent on life support that a 6 mos baby which are killed everyday. Let's just pick ax the old geezers on the ventilators as they have no viability whereas the baby does. Sounds like Yobama care. No neurosurgery for bleeding stroke patient over 70.
seanomelb | Aug 30, 2012, 09:58 PM EDT
The miscreant below whose ignorance of birth control and womens rights should have been aborted. Maybe when they find the "hate gene" this will happen. Be careful what you wish for michealhoulihan it might come back to bite you on the bum.
hollabackgurl | Aug 30, 2012, 09:31 PM EDT
Mairint, you claimed you attended 'a pro-life / pro-family conference in Toronto. The pro-aborts and pro-homosexual 'rights' folk hired buses to ship the rent-a-mob out to our hotel. We had to have the police swat team on roof and on horseback (shields over horses faces)in order to safely attend the conference.' I don't believe a word you wrote. When was this exactly? And why would a gay rights lobby agitate for abortion rights? Why would they harass you to the point were you needed SWAT teams on the roof (did you know Canada does have a SWAT team?)? We have seen you like to demagogue, let's see you back up your claims.
mairint | Aug 30, 2012, 07:56 PM EDT
What makes you so against preborn children Cahir O'D? What a miserable fellow you must be esp. when you see children happily playing because their Mom did not go into a Planned Parenthood abortuary. And by the way the comment about PP providing abortions so women do not go to dangerous 'backstreet' places - hardly a month goes by that a woman does not lose her life in a PP centre in the U.S. Abortion clinics are regularly found to be filthy. One abortionist was found to keep the babies bodies in jars in a frig., others thrown in dumpsters while more are sold to macabre industries for processing. Pres. Obama pushes your taxes to fund abortion. He must not like Americans. Face the truth Cahir. America needs to protect her future citizens even if they are conceived when a woman was only out for a good time. Over 55 million babies have been killed thus. Why should babies pay the price for irresponsible behaviour?
eiriamach | Aug 30, 2012, 07:53 PM EDT
Not only has the GOP waged war on women, but its woman-hating policies are igniting a war between the sexes. They invent inane definitions of "rape" and "personhood" and "pregnant" to distract voters from the fact that they're writing laws to control women's bodies. Ryan co-sponsored a bill that would give employers a VETO over any woman employee's health care decisions by refusing to cover contraceptives if they violate the employers' moral values. His budget not only ends all government financing for Planned Parenthood, but also slashes spending on prenatal care and infant nutrition. Of course he opposed the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay for Women Act. To vote for Romney/Ryan, you'd have to think females are brainless sub-human beings, walking wombs, needing to be controlled by men in government. I used to enjoy political conversations with people I disagreed with. Now I find the thought of chatting with anyone who would vote for Romney/ Ryan absolutely chilling. I'd rather shake hands with Charles Manson!
ciaradexy | Aug 30, 2012, 05:40 PM EDT
Howareya- it IS my body and a foetus will not grow there unless Im willing to provide it with nurture. Im not going to be an unwilling life support machine. If I needed your kidney or blood to ensure my survival, would you just hand them over? No, I didnt think so.
ciaradexy | Aug 30, 2012, 05:37 PM EDT
Hopefully we'll get abortion into ireland soon. Women should not be forced to maintain a foetus without their consent.
mikehoulihan | Aug 30, 2012, 04:10 PM EDT
Cahir-What are you going to do when scientists discover the "gay gene" and parents start selectively aborting all babies with the gene?
WoundedKnee | Aug 30, 2012, 03:14 PM EDT
Pretty shameful when Irish Central is giving space to supporters of partial birth abortion. Why doesn't IC post videos of the procedure, so that we can have an informed discussion?
BrianO | Aug 30, 2012, 02:42 PM EDT
They call for the federal funding for planned parenthood to end, if planned parent hood can run their abortion business on their own and it is legal they will exist, the federal funding of planned nonparenthood is what should not be taking place.
BrianO | Aug 30, 2012, 02:37 PM EDT
Republican war against the culture of death is more like it. Why if a man is married to the same woman and stands by her through thick and thin, and believes that life is worth defending, is he considered a war monger. I would think a man who disparages his grandmother for being white, barely visits his dieing mother, and votes for infanticide would be closer to a war on women mentality.
BrianO | Aug 30, 2012, 02:31 PM EDT
The worst part about obamadontcare is nobody knows whats in it, even after they think they know whays in it, its a flawed piece of legislation, who ever heard of paying for health insurance by taxing granny when she sells her house 3.8% more than most real estate agents get.
EphraimKibbey | Aug 30, 2012, 02:00 PM EDT
Two of the commenters below repeated Rush's misinformation that the Affordable Care Act (ObamaCARES) would use tax dollars to pay for contraception. The ACA simply requires Insurance Companies to pay for the cost of it (to which they agreed since it is much cheaper for them than covering a pregnacy.) So NO TAX DOLLARS are involved! Most of the ACA is regulation of the Insurance Companies for OUR benefit. The most controversial part, the individual mandate, was REQUIRED by the Republican members of the committee to pass the ACA to the house for a vote. The Democrates were infavor of Medicare for all but COMPROMISED! Once they had gotten their demands included in the ACA, most of the GOP voted against a bill that was the GOP counter proposal to the Clinton Health Care bill. The only reason they now demonize the ACA is that supporting it would reinforce Obama's chance at winning the election.
hollabackgurl | Aug 30, 2012, 01:54 PM EDT
MegK311 there's only a shade of difference between you and obvious trolls like Porkheaven and Micky74007. Take a lesson from Paul Ryan last night - he didn't run on his record or what he would do, he intentionally mislead the nation and has been roundly called out for it today. You shouldn't participate in his cycle of ignorance by pretending you don't understand he apposes all forms of abortion and would do so as president.
porkheaven | Aug 30, 2012, 01:45 PM EDT
The writer of article needs to be taken to a mental institution to have his head looked for two reasons 1 to see if he has a brain 2 to see if it is function.
MegK311 | Aug 30, 2012, 01:36 PM EDT
hollabackgurl, No Paul Ryan did not pull the wool over my eyes. My eyes are wide open also my ears. Paul Ryan has a right to express his beliefs but I doubt that he alone can close the doors of planned parenthood. There is so much more at stake at this election besides abortion. Every election the democrats drag out abortion and nothing changes they just try to scare women just as they scare seniors. There are many issues more important than abortion. There is no war against women that is liberal propaganda. I will not vote for Obama that is who scares me.
micky74007 | Aug 30, 2012, 01:35 PM EDT
What flavor kool-aid do you drink?
hollabackgurl | Aug 30, 2012, 01:15 PM EDT
Apparently you're not familiar with Ryan and Romney's platform Megk311. Ryan opposes all abortion, even in cases of incest and rape. He has implied they are simply methods of 'conception' rather than violent attacks. Romney wants to defund Planned Parenthood and also wants to appoint Supreme Court justices to overturn Roe vs Wade. No wonder Paul Ryan pulled the wool over your eyes last night - you don't even know what he stands for, never mind his opponent.
MegK311 | Aug 30, 2012, 01:09 PM EDT
Cahir, There is no war against women it is just something you liberals try to frighten women with every time there is an election. Why do you think it is such a great thing to kill babies. Shame on you and everyone like you. Have you ever gone to a Planned Parenthood offce? it is a very dingy drepressing place. The only use it has is to save some young woman from a back street abortionist where they might not live through the abortion. For that reason Planned Parenthood will keep it's doors open. Many young women who have abortions are filled with guilt afterwards and wish they had kept the baby but it's too late. The war against women is just something the liberals try to stir up at every election. Don't forget they also try to scare old people at evey election.
Nicomax | Aug 30, 2012, 12:48 PM EDT
A total ban on abortion will be looked askance by those suburban folks who are all too often are faced with the fact that their fair-haired teen-aged daughter got a bit too close to the star quarterback, and he is not one they were intending to become a member of the family. Thus, it will never be totally criminalized, and in Arizona you would have thought they would not want it shut off to the immigrants since their population growth is what has them in such a state.
howareya | Aug 30, 2012, 12:37 PM EDT
What is scary is that so many women want to kill their babies. I am a woman, I got pregnant before marriage, I took responsiblity and had that beautiful baby girl 39 years ago. It was no longer just my body once that baby was conceived...so staying out of a woman's uterus is fine as long as it is empty! Once you have another living being in it..it is no longer just her body!
Dompedro | Aug 30, 2012, 12:36 PM EDT
Re hollabackgurl: Ryan apparently was only repeating what the feminist movement told us 40 o 50 years ago, that each baby was the result of a rape.
Tom Mo | Aug 30, 2012, 12:23 PM EDT
Lighten up Cahir. There is no war against women. However if you google Republican Women vs Democrat Women and watch the video you can choose sides.
handsome68 | Aug 30, 2012, 11:11 AM EDT
I propose a theoretical way of thinking about voters in the upcoming presidential election: what would happen if all the aborted unborn children and all the illegal aliens could vote? I'm saying that youse liberal omadhauns think that life is, or should be, simple. I say you need to start thinking. I know thinking is difficult for many liberals, but start and you'd be surprised.
Siobhan39 | Aug 30, 2012, 11:05 AM EDT
Congressman Tom Smith, Rep. from PA, says rape is similar to having a child out of wedlock. I imagine most of the commentors here agree with him.
JoeRoan | Aug 30, 2012, 10:32 AM EDT
I don't hold Rush Limbaugh as a credible spokesperson for Republicans, anymore than I think Joe Biden is a credible spokesperson for all Democrats. No group can be that badly misled or confused.I have family members and good friends who are Democrats. They are not members of Biden's Bafoons. It is, simply, not the government's job to take tax dollars to pay for anyone's birth control. There are other health benefits to the birth control pill, as well as dangerous side effects. These can be addressed on a case-by-case basis. Obama promotes abortions. Most Republicans want to lessen the number of abortions. If the number can be brought to zero, by legal means, then good for America.
carlow98 | Aug 30, 2012, 10:29 AM EDT
Did you know: 1. There is scientific evidence showing that babies in the womb can, at 20 weeks, feel pain. 2. There have been babies, who when the abortion was performed after 20 weeks, have survived the abortion and were then killed by the abortion provider. 3. Women’s bodies do not function with precise 28 day accuracy. To make sure the first two things don’t happen pushing back the timeline seems reasonable.
BulldogMania | Aug 30, 2012, 10:24 AM EDT
What a farce. How is Obamacare...a takeover of the healthcare system by the Federal government...not an intrusion into every life in American...male and female. This war on women...but they wouldn't say War on Terror...is total nonsense...they don't want to talk about their FAILED economic policies, which have destroyed small business owners...especially women...so they create nonsense to deflect from the reality of what's really happening. Are the American people this stupid? Anyone that falls for this war on women nonsense is a total IDIOT!
Eschetic | Aug 30, 2012, 10:09 AM EDT
"hermitTalker" needs to get out out more often and check out the real world facts - or his readers should. What he contends is what "Obama favours" no rationale reader or listener has never come from any statement of this President. This President and his party DO favor equal treatment for all Americans regardless of gender and protection of womens' rights to their own bodies before a *fetus* becomes a pre-born. The fantasists who want to insist on imposing their weird belief that human life (as opposed to *potential* human life) begins at conception will next be trying to criminalize "spilling of seed" because, of course, *that too* has the *potential* to become a real human. If only people like hermitTalker and the radical pols he (or she) supports cared more about POST-birth humans and ACCURACY in political discourse it would be a far better world and life long Republicans like me would be forced to cross party lines in the voting booth far less often.
hollabackgurl | Aug 30, 2012, 10:03 AM EDT
Sandra Fluke wants medical companies to ensure the birth control pill is affordable and available to all women. It has many health benefits other than simply preventing convention. The GOP want to make you stupid by baiting you with sexist jokes as they pilfer your pockets.
hollabackgurl | Aug 30, 2012, 10:01 AM EDT
I think that anyone who has a daughter ought to take offense at Paul Ryan's comment that rape is a form of 'conception.'
Shmrck5S | Aug 30, 2012, 09:57 AM EDT
You and some women may think this law is wrong, but I'll bet the unborn children would vote for it if they could.
PhlutiePhan | Aug 30, 2012, 09:54 AM EDT
The comedian Dennis Miller recently reminded us on Jay Leno that Sandra Fluke is 30 years old and wants the taxpayer to pay for her birth control.
The Waltons | Aug 30, 2012, 09:36 AM EDT
Wow cahir, you and your ilk can't wait to kill babies.
tom/peggy | Aug 30, 2012, 09:36 AM EDT
I want to hear and see in writing specifics about the Presidents jobs plan.