51 Comments

• maloney | Jul 20, 2011, 03:39 PM EDT

  It's amazing how you have so much to say seano but never say anything at all.

• rpmschevy | Jul 20, 2011, 02:01 AM EDT

  Poor seano I do understand rhetoric and irony, I just love it when you all invoke it, especially since you can only do so with insults. When you cannot defend with facts you return with belittling showing your inability to have intelligent conversation on a subject. As far as check out chick, I do not spend idle time on social wasteful sites. A little hard to know about something so far away and irrevalent.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 19, 2011, 07:43 PM EDT

  you do fail to see the point. You are correct when you state I do not believe in God unfortunatley the irony is lost on you. I did apologise to the check out chicks maybe my humour just misses your head.I am really sorry and I will "Plainspeak" in future so can understand. I will really try not to use Rhetoric or irony,it's wasted on you anyway.

• rpmschevy | Jul 19, 2011, 01:59 AM EDT

  Oh man Seano still cannot talk intelligently and just brings on the insults. Someone brings up facts, does real research and challenges a liberal, they come back with cry baby insults like playground bullies who get knocked down. Amazing. Sexually innuendo, false statements, insults and no facts. It is almost laughable if not so serious. Why do you invoke God when you do not even believe in Him? Love that too about liberals. As for an attorney, thought about, could not afford when I was younger, but would love to be able to defend the Constitution of this great country against those who encroach on it. And exactly how are my thoughts all over the place? Oh it is because I have an ability to think independently and deduce on my own without influence from hate speech individuals like certain unnamed people here?

• seanomelbourne | Jul 18, 2011, 07:49 PM EDT

  go chew on some tea leaves after Aug.3rd thats all you will have unless Obama can come to your aid. Ask your accontant about debt and the ability to pay.I cannot believe that the good old GOP allowed itself to be dragged down by teahadist extremist who wouldn't know a debt ceiling from a check out chick ( my appologies to the check out chicks).

• seanomelbourne | Jul 17, 2011, 08:23 PM EDT

  Thank God your not a lawyer your mind is all over the place.I have no intention of reading your teahadist junk.Typical accountant one tracked mind how nfortunate.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 16, 2011, 09:30 PM EDT

  Chevy you have difficulty seperating rhetoric from fact poor lad.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 13, 2011, 07:44 PM EDT

  chevy as you help your billionaire friends lift their bags of cash into their car boots ,they will thank you for your support.They may even give one of their dollars that trickle down to the average American.Tell me who is really conducting "class warfare"? You need to quit looking and listening to the tainted (dirty)NEWS LTD. After all it's owned by one of your "classless billionaires".

• rpmschevy | Jul 13, 2011, 02:44 AM EDT

  No seano it is the Democrats who promote class warfare, and have for decades. Real Americans do not separate groups. Democrats want to keep people on welfare and keep them "dependent" just like drugs on them. That way they can stay in office. Those who believe in the American dream of hard work and prosperity by making something out of nothing do not call people by a separate designation. I have for decades detested classifying people as that creates the class warfare you speak of. Man woman, black, white, brown pink or orange should not matter, you are American or you are not. Enjoy, love, appreciate your heritage be it from anywhere or religious background. Celebrate Christmas, or whatever holiday, but be American. No class. But the Dems, no they need to have Hispanic, White, Black, Asian on the census. Why? There should be a box, American Citizen, Permanent Resident, or Guest. That is all. No class. So what if you are Black Mr Obama, are you American?

• rpmschevy | Jul 13, 2011, 02:37 AM EDT

  CarolMaske I am not a republican, but I do believe in our Republican style of government. You say look at the past of what they have done? What did Obama ever do? What has Ron Wyden ever done? What has the majority of politicians ever done in real life to deserve their stations? At least McCain fought for this country, and sufferred. And I do not like him either. He is now a professional politician.

• hancock | Jul 13, 2011, 01:59 AM EDT

  Australians.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 12, 2011, 08:18 PM EDT

  Pery can mount his old nag and take his re--peater rifle to DC and demand a banana republic for Texas.

• CarolMaske | Jul 12, 2011, 02:26 PM EDT

  I can't imagine how the GOP persuades its voters! All one has to do is look at history to find incompetence in the GOP's elected and their foul play in our elections. Which evidences their "mobster-like" approach to politics. I don't think there is an elected Republican that represents his or her constituents - they keep their party politics first and foremost. It is mystery to me why people vote for them.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 11, 2011, 07:21 PM EDT

  You shlould go love in Egypt maloney your already in "denile"

• maloney | Jul 11, 2011, 03:31 PM EDT

  The shareholders don't make the decisions at GE, the liberal idiots calling the shots do. seano, have you ever considered telling the truth? The change would do ya good. "The point" is on top of your head.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 10, 2011, 07:25 PM EDT

  GE is a public company with shareholders of all political persuasions so make your point.

• hancock | Jul 10, 2011, 02:14 PM EDT

  Sean worry about your own colony.

• JimMcGarity | Jul 09, 2011, 11:44 PM EDT

  Always half of the story. When Bush was in office the dem did the same. Why dont we get rid of both parties and do what is best for all of us. All we do is line the pockets of a bunch old old men is DC.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 09, 2011, 08:07 PM EDT

  Kaydog you can help the mega rich carry their sacks of money to their carboots they will appreciate your efforts then send you back to where you belong.it's the millionare class that conduct the class warfare and you are gullible enough not to comprehend. The sad part is you just do not get it.

• kaydog1 | Jul 09, 2011, 03:46 PM EDT

  Sean, it is officially recognized that 51 % of American households now pay absolutely no Federal Income Tax, up from 48% of households a scant 6 mos of "Obama-Style Economic Growth" ago. In fact, many receive an "Earned Income Tax Credit" refund in excess of what they paid in for withholding - "giving back" to those who never actually "gave" in the first place. "The bottom 50% of the people" you refer to are therefore not subsidizing anyone. Instead, I and my middle-class brethren and those WEALTHIER than us are supporting that bottom 50%. I know it's a problem for you Libtard Class Warriors, so try visualizing a wagon filled with Obama supporters being pulled by Conservatives. Okay, now you've got it.

• hancock | Jul 09, 2011, 01:48 AM EDT

  We don't need Australians telling us how to live. Worry about your own country.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 08, 2011, 11:38 PM EDT

  Chevy I am retired and as a business owner for nearly 30yrs. my taxes were substantial,but yours mi cicumstances are irrelevant to the fact that the bottom50% of the people and the middle classes are subsidsing the life style of the mega rich.Chevy your "poor me attitude"is only demeaning yourself.

• hollabackgurl | Jul 08, 2011, 08:03 AM EDT

  It is disingenuous that the party that increased the national debt limit five times during the Bush administration suddenly cares about our obligations.

• hancock | Jul 08, 2011, 12:31 AM EDT

  We don't take tax advice from Australians.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 07, 2011, 11:32 PM EDT

  Chevy fails to understand that 10% of the people own 90% of the wealth and they contribution to the tax dollar is one of the lowest in the western world.The 50% of the people cvhevy blames have less than 1% of the wealth,I suppopse they could pay in kind maybe a chicken for their GP's advice.Simple maths are clouded by his political bias.

• hollabackgurl | Jul 07, 2011, 11:21 PM EDT

  Republicans are playing a dangerous game by refusing to raise the debt ceiling, says CEO Warren Buffett. "We raised the debt ceiling seven times during the Bush Administration," said this week. "Now, the Republican-controlled Congress is trying to use the incentive now that we're going to blow your brains out, America, in terms of your debt worthiness over time."

• Searlit | Jul 07, 2011, 10:45 PM EDT

  You call it what you like rpmschevy, all I can say is working class people like myself were able to breathe a little easier during the Clinton terms. The economy was creating lots of jobs and we had a few more dollars at the end of each paycheck. It wasn't like the stranglehold that we felt during the Reagan and Bush administrations. There are few politicians or corporations that deserve respect these days. Sad to say.

• seanomelbourne | Jul 07, 2011, 08:07 PM EDT

  The GOP fear the tehadists,they allowed the bull out of the pen now they been dragged along by it.he fascist right is now running congress.

• hollabackgurl | Jul 07, 2011, 07:09 PM EDT

  Our GOP voting business elites perceive that the federal deficit puts the entire economy at grave risk, but they still advocate for policies that will lead to their short-term gain, but long-term ruin. The cognitive dissonance does not bother them overmuch.

• johhnyb | Jul 07, 2011, 06:02 PM EDT

  Hi jamthecat. Loved your post tearing me apart. What is a troll? I have the luxury of watching American politics from Ireland and hoping for your sake that the US doesn't go all European i.e. broke. If as you say, George W. ran the US into debt, how is multiplying that debt a solution to the problem? Lets have your thoughts. Best wishes, John

• Bomar22 | Jul 07, 2011, 05:10 PM EDT

  We must get something straight first. David Brooks is NO conservative. We now can take the conversation anywhere you like as long as we understand that Mr Brooks is a flaming liberal masquerading as a conservative.

• maloney | Jul 07, 2011, 04:47 PM EDT

  Do you feel it? The liberals power slip sliding away. Enjoy what damage obama will continue to do to America. It all ends in 2012. Then the tears will burn down liberal faces. The citizens aren't falling for the liberal lies any more. The rank in file Repubs will also be replaced with more Rand Paul type patriots putting an end to both parties gravy train.

• Searlit | Jul 07, 2011, 03:59 PM EDT

  Don't forget President Clinton left a budget surplus which "W" gave away in uncalled for tax cuts for his "elite"(ridiculous term)"base". Clinton, also, ensured that Social Security and Medicare would remain solvent. That was until Geprge W. took a hatchet to it.

• FatherVol | Jul 07, 2011, 03:24 PM EDT

  Cahir, your problem is you see everything only in the moment (usally a split second) and have no concept of the much broader historical perspective. Take the blinder off, for heaven's sake.

• rpmschevy | Jul 07, 2011, 02:07 PM EDT

  Well well well Cahir cannot handle criticism so he continues to censor posts? freebie facts to "progressives" only matter when it supports their assertions. Nice fact finding post.

• freebie28 | Jul 07, 2011, 01:55 PM EDT

  Never considered myself a 'troll,' but rather, someone interested in reaching truthful conclusions. Therefore, perhaps jamthecat might be interested in more conclusive reality offered up by the U-S Office of Management and Budget: "the federal budget was balanced in fiscal years 1998, 1999, 2000 and 2001." Democratic President Bill Clinton signed them, however a Republican-controlled Congress approved the appropriations for each one of those years. In fiscal years 1994 and 1995, when President Clinton governed with a DEMOCRAT=CONTROLLED CONGRESS, the federal government ran deficits of $203.2 billion and $163.9 billion respectively. We can agree on one of your assertions jamthecat, neither party is 'as pure as the driven snow.'

• Searlit | Jul 07, 2011, 01:31 PM EDT

  @ jamthecat, Wow! You haven taken them to task! Very concisely too, I might add. The IC Brigade strikes again! Well done!

• rpmschevy | Jul 07, 2011, 01:19 PM EDT

  Hey jam the housing bubble was created by "progressives" who went against long held standards of debt to equity ratios. You ever hear of Barney Frank? BTW Clinton administrators made millions in bonuses when they went to work for Fannie and Freddie, right before the bubble bursed they got out, how convenient. Clinton was not the one who was paying down the debt, it is the House that establishes the Budget, controlled by Republicans at the time, working with Clinton. Under Obama we have WH administrators, who make nothing, but only spend, who are getting massive pay raises in a time of a large recession. Where is their "hit". It is a common problem with Republicans and Democrats. Neither party listens to the people. All need to be kicked out, especially Pelosi and Reid.

• rpmschevy | Jul 07, 2011, 01:14 PM EDT

  freebie you got it right

• rpmschevy | Jul 07, 2011, 01:13 PM EDT

  joma do you even know what kind of government the USA has? Stop studying revisionist history created out of thin air by liberals. Get the facts, but answer my question above first, if you can.

• freebie28 | Jul 07, 2011, 12:49 PM EDT

  'If you're going to reach an agreement in a two party system, you have to give the other party something. You can't just pretend it doesn't exist.' So let me get this straight in my mind...something akin to the Democrats 'negotiating' as if the Republican representatives never existed, and in the end passed an unworkable 'new' health care system, contrary to overwhelming opposition by a majority of American citizens. Oh, so that's how the system works when the shoe finds its way to the other foot!

• jamthecat | Jul 07, 2011, 12:40 PM EDT

  Here come the trolls like johhnyb, ready to blame everything from the deficit to the collapse of the economy to the lack of spit in their mouths on the Democrats while the GOP is as pure as the driven snow. It's pathetic, really, how delusional these people are. Facts mean nothing. Reality means nothing. All that matters is what they believe. Well, here's some reality, johhnyb -- under Bill Clinton, a Democratic president, we were paying DOWN our debt. Under George Bush, that was reversed and our debt exploded, thanks to his lavish tax cuts, two wars he initiated, a drug plan that was never paid for, trillions in bailouts to the banks (happened in September 2008, before Obama was even elected) and the collapse of a housing bubble that he and his administration insisted did not exist so did not need to be addressed. Of course, people like you won't admit to this. Because the facts have a liberal bias, and everything liberal is bad to you. No, you'd rather keep doing your rich masters' work like a good little guard dog, hoping to get a treat with your bowl of kibbles, and the hell with the rest of the world. That's diseased.

• olovely | Jul 07, 2011, 12:21 PM EDT

  I'm begining to to wonder whether the GOP's purpose really to govern or something else.

• jdi2269 | Jul 07, 2011, 11:57 AM EDT

  CAHIR MUST BE ON DRUGS OR HE NEVER WENT TO SCHOOL!!!!

• johhnyb | Jul 07, 2011, 11:31 AM EDT

  So hollabackgurl...the republicans ran up deficits and the democrat solution was to treble the deficit. I'm from Ireland so I don't understand that logic. Please clarify.

• DLW12183 | Jul 07, 2011, 10:39 AM EDT

  For two years the democrats gave the republicans nothing as they were in control of both houses of congress and the white house. All that time the democrats had a chance to clean up some of this mess but only made it much worse. Now the left democrats want to blame republicans for not compromising. I seem to remember a saying that you reap what you sow. Can you imagine that. For me, I hope they don't raise the debt limit-the government will only want to buy the controlling interest in another major business-they already bought GM and the Health Care Industry. I think this is what happened when Castro took over Cuba.

• hollabackgurl | Jul 07, 2011, 10:37 AM EDT

  The GOP come into government, run up deficits, then leave messes for Democrats to clean up. Then Democrats are then forced to do unpopular things to stabilize the economy and get the country back on track. Because they have to make difficult *governing* choices, American voters get angry and vote Republicans back in. The cycle continues and it happens over and over again.

• colkelley | Jul 07, 2011, 10:18 AM EDT

  Cahir supposes that he and "don't bother me with facts" Libtards are "normal." Wrong assumption.

• joma5004 | Jul 07, 2011, 10:10 AM EDT

  DOWN with the middle class, UP with the super rich! (republican mantra since its founding)

• TheOldPerfessor | Jul 07, 2011, 10:03 AM EDT

  The wars in Afghanistan and Iraq (remember weapons of mass destruction?) were started in a time of tax cuts. Trillions in war expenditures tax cuts = deficit. It's that simple. Anyone remember the last president to turn in a balanced budget?

• johhnyb | Jul 07, 2011, 09:58 AM EDT

  So Republicans have deliver 3 trillion in tax cuts in 30m years and Obama has put the national deficit to 14 trillion in 3 years. Let's see...who has done the most damage?