Catholics bashing gays, again - Pope says they 'threaten the future of humanity'
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Ask any longstanding loving couple, or ask America's social psychologists. Being in a relationship is good for your mental health, your emotional well being and your bank balance (even if they seem to do the opposite sometimes).
No wonder so many people feel the urge to find and foster longstanding relationships, through all the good times and bad. At heart we know they're profoundly valuable.
I bring all this up because, of course, there are many organizations and religions in the world who want to limit or even prevent many of us from ever knowing the joys of a longstanding partnership.
I wish I could say that the value of two adults forming a long and stable loving relationship is evident to everyone, but that's not the case is it?
On Monday I was startled, and that's not too strong a word, to read that Pope Benedict just told diplomats from nearly 180 countries that marriage equality for gays actually threatens the future of humanity.
“This is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society. Consequently, policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself,” he said.
Strong words from the leader of the largest religion on earth, those. In fact they're the strongest words a sitting Pope has ever uttered on same sex marriage to the 1.3 billion Catholics he leads.
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What are major threats to humanity after all? They're things like war, disease, famine, terrorism, natural disasters -- and now the gays.
Growing up in Ireland, I was not made aware that being gay was anything other than an embarrassing social gaffe. Most Irish people didn't see it as a sinister global threat, in fact the bullies I knew just saw it as a really helpful handicap that made it easier to target you.
Thanks to the Pope's clarifying statement on Monday, those days are now over. Now gay relationships constitute a clear danger to the world which is only matched by world war. Or so he says.
He knows a bit about the effects of war, Pope Benedict. As a boy he was forced to become a member of the Hitler Youth in Germany, where he had his first unforgettable glimpses of what a real threat to the future of humanity looked like.
I don't know how he has subsequently come to see same sex marriage as threatening humanity in a similar way, but I'll trust his sincerity, even if I obviously don't share it.
But in Canada, Spain, and indeed in New York state and elsewhere, we have full civil marriage for gay couples, and to date not one heterosexual marriage has been attacked or destroyed by the fact.
No bands of militant gay people are marauding about policing churches or city halls to tear up marriage certificates on unsuspecting heterosexuals. On the contrary, it's as if most people haven't even noticed.
That’s probably why the church is ratcheting up the rhetoric. They want to scare us all. Frightened people are easier to manipulate.
Here in New York the Pope just announced that our Archbishop Timothy Dolan will next month become a cardinal, doubtless in part due to approval of his non-stop attacks on the personhood and dignity of gay couples.
By not supporting a federal ban on same sex marriage, Dolan recently announced, President Obama could “precipitate a national conflict between church and state of enormous proportions.”
Oh the drama. A new civil war fought over gay people? I don't really see it happening.
But Dolan was rewarded for keeping the pressure on, wasn't he? And that pressure is still building because he’s unlikely to ever let it ease.
But might this level of operatic anti-gay rhetoric and frank intolerance pose the real threat, I wonder? Because gay people aren't a “threat” to humanity, they're an important part of humanity, even if the pope and archbishop Dolan spend the rest of their lives working to exclude them from the dignity of love and commitment.
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helmet365 | Jan 11, 2012, 10:58 PM EST
If the pope meant gay marriage was a threat to humanity,why not include nuns,'brides of christ'. They say they marry Christ and as we know do not propergate.It should also include priests who enter into a similar union with Christ,the also do not propergate and so become a threat to the future of humamity.Gay priests? Not sure where they stand.Underlyng all this the pope meant sin, something that does not exist but enables them and their flock to go through life with maximum guilt.
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JOHNTOBIN | Jan 11, 2012, 07:56 PM EST
To Irish Central-get your facts right.The Pope did NOT say that Gays threaten the future of humanity.What he did say was that Gay Marriage threatens the future of humanity.There is a vast difference.It is amazing how a play of words in a headline can change the whole brunt of a report.
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helmet365 | Jan 11, 2012, 07:39 PM EST
PiperMac52,on the contrary. God has not manifested himself or herself to any person or religious group on earth ever. Every religious person thinks they have an answer and direct line to this God. One day you may accept reality and find true peace.
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seanomelbourne | Jan 11, 2012, 05:57 PM EST
The Catholic heirarchy seems to have a "don't ask don't tell" attitude to homosexuality in its ranks. Morality is within the human condition.Neither the pope or any other religious leader have no special rights on ethics and morality.Religions run a fear campaign to garner power over the populace.Just listen to the Evangelical christian dog ignorant preacher hypocrites spew their hate and fear.
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PiperMac52 | Jan 11, 2012, 05:50 PM EST
Oh contraire, the Church must retain it's teachings handed down from Christ and his Apostles or it will die. There is a reason(scripturally based)as to why it has survived 2000 years. Because it has stood against the debasement and perversions of many cultures through history that abandoned God's teaching and became their own gods. The homosexual lifestyle, just as adultery, fornication is a sin and against God's natural law. It is especially debased as it goes against nature's Law. Just because a strong "Gay"lobby has pushed to make it "acceptable" in a moral relative society does not therefore negate God's law on which every society in history has been based.
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helmet365 | Jan 11, 2012, 04:52 PM EST
Don't take it too serious. The Church must change or die. Celebrate the fact that you are witnessing the slow death of the Church in its present form.
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pounder | Jan 11, 2012, 04:09 PM EST
Gay marriage is an abomination,no matter what the bromancers on this site wish for.
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Boarderthom | Jan 11, 2012, 02:59 PM EST
Archbishop Desmond Tutu has written about these issues, from his latest book -
"This is a matter of ordinary justice. We struggled against apartheid in South Africa, supported by people the world over, because black people were being blamed and made to suffer for something we could do nothing about - our very skin. It is the same with sexual orientation. It is a given. I could not have fought against the discrimination of apartheid and not also fight against the discrimination that homosexuals endure, even in our churches and faith groups." (page 54)
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"Equally, I cannot keep quiet while people are being penalized for something about which they can do nothing - their sexuality. To discriminate against our sisters and brothers who are lesbian or gay on grounds of their sexual orientation for me is as totally unacceptable and unjust as apartheid ever was." (page 55)
Strong words from a great man who has fought against apartheid.
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EphraimKibbey | Jan 11, 2012, 02:42 PM EST
Why has the RCC had such difficulty interesting enough young men in the priesthood recently? I am sure there are many reasons, but could it be the roots of the RCC that the pope is worried about as gays achieve more and more acceptance in mainstream society?
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PhlutiePhan | Jan 11, 2012, 01:56 PM EST
The Pope's (viva la popa) main role is as the "guardian of morality". Stalin asked "how many divisions does the pope have"? If he has no physical army since the Papal States were eradicated by Mussolini with the Lateran Treaty, then why are you so worried? Do you see angels dancing on your headboard as you go to sleep at night? The job of the Pope is to defend the innocent and to stop their seduction.
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Searlit | Jan 11, 2012, 01:56 PM EST
What's dangerous to this world is the lust for power. It is this drive that causes all manner of human beings to lose their conscience. When you think of yourself as omnipotent, you become a danger to those you see as less than equal. Good comments, eiriamach and jamieLM.
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Nicomax | Jan 11, 2012, 12:43 PM EST
There is value in having marriage contracts codified by a civic body to avoid legal chaos. There is no necessity for any religious role, unless those choosing to marry chose such. The Vatican should stick to what it's good at, and stay away as far as possible from the private lives of people, many of whom are not even Catholic.
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eiriamach | Jan 11, 2012, 12:35 PM EST
Didn't we know this was coming? He delivered the same "teaching" against the civil and legal equality of LGBTs during his visit to the UK last September.
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eiriamach | Jan 11, 2012, 12:26 PM EST
SeamusMor thinks "His Holiness, as the religious and moral authority ... must speak in absolute terms about both the benefits and hazards of our behavior choices." BUT he was not doing that! He was urging the 180 diplomats to take his message back home to their countries that they must use the law to discriminate against gays-- discrimination, not moral teaching, was his "behavior choice." Read his words, and perhaps the light bulb will turn on for you. Again I quote Gaudium et Spes, one of the reform documents of Second Vatican Council, church teaching that this pope exhorts the world to disobey: "True, all men are not alike.... Nevertheless, with respect to the fundamental rights of the person, every type of discrimination, whether social or cultural, whether based on sex, race, color, social condition, language or religion, is to be overcome and eradicated as contrary to God's intent." What has happened to the moral law? The pope has replaced it with his greed for political power.
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