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Archbishop Timothy Dolan's gay bashing letter to President Obama

Posted on Thursday, September 22, 2011 at 10:17 AM

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Look at Canada.

On July 20, 2005, Canada became the fourth country in the world and the first country in the Americas to legalize same-sex marriage with the enactment of the Civil Marriage Act.

By 2011 the only major social change that has occurred is that gay people have almost total equality under Canadian law.

That's nice for them, isn't it?

The erosion of traditional marriage, the marginalization of religion and the complete breakdown of the family, still so fretted over by some conservatives, hasn't happened. At all. Nor will it. Gays are family too, after all.

So what to make of Archbishop Timothy Dolan? This week he sent a letter to President Obama  outlining his growing alarm about actions the Obama administration has taken that he believes 'escalate the threat to marriage and imperil the religious freedom of those who promote and defend marriage.'

What imperiling threats is he talking about?

The Justice Departments decision to no longer defend DOMA (the Defense of Marriage act) claiming that it's unconstitutional.

The administration's support of the Every Child Deserves a Family Act, which would prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender identity in foster care and adoption placement.

The repeal of DADT (Don't Ask, Don't Tell).

'In sum,' Archbishop Dolan wrote, 'these recent actions undermine certain fundamental truths about the nature of the human person—the equal importance of mothers and fathers to children, and the unchangeable meaning and nature of marriage as a communion of the sexes. They also oppose the deeply rooted consensus among the American people in support of the authentic definition of marriage and laws that reflect it. These actions also harm the common good by imperiling the religious freedom of those who hold these truths and defend these laws.'

Reading the overheated language of Dolan's letter, and bemused by the massively overstated nature of the 'threat,' it occurred to me that we might start a campaign to have the archbishop visit Toronto.

Perhaps the Canadian Tourist Board could step up too? We could call it something fun like Vancouver Vanquishes Dolan's Vapors, or Toronto Terminates Dolan's Tantrums. It's quite clear he needs to get out more.

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Of course 2012 being an election year, it's not an accident that Archbishop Dolan is suddenly alarmed about the pace of change gay rights have achieved. His letter is, on the face of it, an attempt to intimidate the president through the voting block that - apparently - still gives its allegiance to the Archbishop.

But it's a bit odd, in the modern world, to see a Catholic bishop make a not-so-veiled threat to a head of state. After all United States laws are governed by the Constitution, not the Vatican. We didn't elect Archbishop Dolan to be the spokesman on anything. And his opinion, such as it is, is therefore no more or less valid than any other citizens.

Being Irish, I find it especially startling that a Catholic leader would make so a public stand on this marginal issue when it's quite clear that God's work might prioritize others.

Record numbers of American children are going to bed hungry every single night. 50 million people were unable to put food on the table at some point last year. Where's Dolan's letter about that escalating threat?

And the speed and sincerity with which he engages in the cultures wars stands in very sharp contrast to the Vatican's decades long indifference and foot-dragging over the international child abuse scandals.

Would that Archbishop Dolan could follow the example of Jesus himself and seek out peace and good fellowship, rather than go out of his way to sow suspicion and discord.


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Mr. O'Doherty states that the good archbishop is reaching out to fire up a voting block against the president. I would remind him of the top heavy number of radical Catholic women in the administration in positions of authority such as Sebelius and Solis. There are a limited number of cabinet positions. The Catholic leadership except for Dolan is socialistic in nature and even went to the point of "running now Cardinal Raymond Burke "out of town" for his anti-pro abortion stance against these same prominent politicians. Recently, Dolan visited the president in the White House and came away saying that he saw a glimmer of hope. Of just such thoughts for the German and Austrian bishops are what brought the National Socialists to power.
Obvious Math Mistake below. That's 47% of all respondents gave low grades. less than 20% gave high grades. You can figure out how many gave 'C.'
One more statistic, on how people rate their churches' attitudes toward homosexuality: In a nationwide poll, of all religious groups, "Catholics were most likely to give their churches negative marks, with nearly one-third giving their churches a 'D' (15%) or an 'F' (16%)." That's 47% of Catholics grading their churches low. "One-third (33%) of the public also believe that messages from religious bodies are contributing 'a lot' to higher rates of suicide among gay and lesbian youth, and another third (32%) say these message contribute 'a little;' only 21% say they do not contribute at all." (Oct. 2010, by Public Religion Research Institute, online).
falconflash, if, as you boast, you "say horrible things about gays," then according to AB Dolan, you are not a good Catholic. Obviously, you think that Dolan's opposition to gay rights gives you the right to make hateful comments about gays. You've given us a fine example of the real results of the USCCB's campaign against gay rights. It breeds bigots! Dolan can claim that Catholics "reject all hatred and unjust treatment of any person," but the proof is in the pudding, and I smell a stinky pudding... sniff, yuck!
Do all of you "holier than thou", "psuedo and amatuer theologians" really believe that gay people choose to be gay so that they can be picked on, dicriminated against,chatised,accused of demonic qualities and made to feel less than human? I can just envision Jesus angrily turning over your tables in your hateful temples.
People say horrible things about the Cardinal yet are allowed to post.... I say horrible things about gays and I'm banned. Irish Central is a liberal, left-wing anti-Catholic web site.
I've quoted enough papal encyclicals for one day (Gaudium et Spes below), but if Catholics will consult Lumen Gentium online, they will see that bishops have a duty to listen to their flocks. In fact, Vatican II made it part of the meaning of infallibility that bishops and lay Catholics should consider it the work of the Holy Spirit when they reach a consensus on moral issues. I think Catholics call it "sensus fidelium," the "sense of the faithful." Dolan needs to talk less and listen more-- not only to his "brother bishops."
Mayoman is right and angelprecious is clearly wrong. According to a May 13, 2011 Pew Research Center article, "Among religious groups, substantial majorities of the religiously unaffiliated (79%), white Catholics (66%) and white mainline Protestants (65%) say that homosexuality should be accepted. Most people-- including most Catholics-- oppose discrimination against gays. Dolan is in the one-third of white Catholics who favor it.
Oldboreen: Right off the top of my head I can instantly come up with at least ten Catholics I know personally that support gay marriage. Yes, actual marriage! And these men and women have no problem voicing their opinion on the issue. Not all Catholics are conservative, closed-minded and/or reactionary. And not all Catholics feel threatened by gay men or women; many of which serve in the clergy.
Can it EVER be right to deny equal protection of the law to any group on the basis of religion, ethnicity, economic status, gender or sexual orientation? Not according to RCC teaching: "Respect and love ought to be extended also to those who think or act differently than we [Catholics] do in social, political and even religious matters." Therefore, "with respect to the fundamental rights of the person, EVERY TYPE OF DISCRIMINATION, whether social or cultural, whether based on sex, race, color, social condition, language or religion, is to be overcome and eradicated as contrary to God's intent." Dolan has led the US bishops shamefully far astray not only from US Constitutional principles, but even from their own Church teaching and the example of Christ, who "entered this world to give witness to the truth, to rescue and not to sit in judgment" (Gaudiam et Spes, 1965). The newly formed US Association of Catholic Priests, by contrast, states its purpose as "full implementation of the vision and teachings of the Second Vatican Council with special emphasis on the primacy of the individual conscience, the status and participation of all the baptized, and the task of establishing a church where all believers will be treated as equals." Dolan and the USCCB are old-school; change is on the horizon.
It's difficult for me to believe that Dolan's letter, which turns on an equivocation between "prejudice" and "discrimination," is sincere. Can he really be that lacking in intelligence? Can he underestimate the intelligence of Obama and the Dept. of Justice so completely? If he is sincerely that stupid, he will soon qualify for his scarlet silk cardinal's skullcap and mantle.
Dolan's "Analysis of Recent Federal Threats to Marriage" claims that Catholics can reject marriage equality for gays and still "recognize the immeasurable personal dignity and equal worth of all individuals, including those with same-sex attraction, and...reject all hatred and unjust treatment against any person." He argues further that Catholics must be allowed, under the US Constitution's guarantee of religious freedom, to act on "their moral and faith-based convictions," which require that they reserve marriage to heterosexuals. This letter is classic double-speak. He equates discrimination with prejudice and denies that Catholic "belief" is prejudiced. But the US Constitution does not prohibit prejudice! It prohibits discrimination and leaves everyone free to adopt any prejudice OR 'religious conviction.' Of course discrimination is often motivated by prejudice, but it's possible for even racists and sexists to obey anti-discrimination laws and treat everyone fairly, just as it's possible for fair-minded people to treat a racial or sexual group unfairly (by applying a policy from segregation era or pre-Title VII-era, for ex.). The Constitution requires equal treatment of all-- REGARDLESS of personal feelings or religious beliefs. It's just silly to think that Catholics can respect the "equal worth of all individuals, including those with same-sex attraction" in the CONSTITUTIONAL SENSE while their religious "convictions" require them to deny equality in any social institution, such as marriage, to any group.
Dolan's letter states that there are two tiers of human being: the natural and the unnatural. That's hateful garbage. There are only two sexes, it's probably a good thing if you're attracted to one or the other. And he didn't write about the plight of the poor to the president, he instead targeted gays. That tells you which issue he attaches more importance to.
It's not gay bashing. It's the truth, look around you!
The church is having its last hurrah and fighting its battle of the bulge. which it will surely lose if all the good people - catholics and others speak out against it, and cut off the funds that support its agenda of terrorism against gay people and child abuse..............BTW re its campaign to support life - its a smokescreen to hide its own crimes, including responsibility for the hatred of Jews who wouldnt convert - the hatred that underlayed german society and gave us WWII and the holocaust




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