Notre Dame fans turn on Brian Kelly
Published Sunday, October 31, 2010, 10:01 AM
Updated Sunday, October 31, 2010, 10:17 AM
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SouthBendNative | Nov 05, 2010, 02:48 AM EDT
JVMullin, the last conference ND should join is the Big 10 or 12 or is it 13?. Seamusmoore has it right...except that the College FB HOF is on its' way to Atlanta soon. The Administration at ND is so inept it is disgusting. They took the greatest franchise in college football history and turned it into Notre Disney. The football program is a joke and Brian Kelly is a fraud of a football coach. I am 48 yrs old and he is far and away the worst coach at ND in my lifetime.
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seamusmoore | Nov 01, 2010, 08:05 PM EDT
JV A little history lesson, Notre Dame tried to join the Big 10 in 1908 and was blocked by Fritz Crisler of Michigan who disliked catholics. They didn't want us then, but they tried to get us to join in the early 30's and we declined. As for your academic angle, ND gets plenty of research money; for e.g., it was one of 6 universities to be selected as research center for the Midwest Institute of Nanotechnology Development (MIND). If you read Charlie Rice's (ND Law professor Emeritus) book "What Happened to Notre Dame", one of his key points is the 1978 decision to emphasize professors conducting research at the expense of teaching. Notre Dame was the "Sinn Fein" (ourselves alone) of catholic higher education; unfortunately, these days ND is more interested in being like the Ivys, acting like sheep instead of the lone wolf leader. Its' problems on the football are a reflection of its administration's leadership. As for "what do you have to lose"? How about what made the school special in the first place. The Big Ten rejected ND, Rockne built the first truly national football program in the 20's; hence that's why the College Football hall of Fame is in South Bend. I rather be a wolf, not a sheep!
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seamusmoore | Nov 01, 2010, 05:39 PM EDT
Dave Kemp - with regard to your "pitch" and score presentation comments, you are right. Understand that Dara Kelly is probably somewhere inside "the Pale", therefore, he thinks like an English person (i.e.,probably has a shrine to Jack Charlton in his home) You must realize that Niall O'Dowd is from Drogheda in County Louth, most known for its soccer club Drogheda United. Most of the people who work for him on IC or the Irish Voice fit into 3 categories 1) they are from Drogheda (Kelly Fincham); 2)gay (Cahir O Doherty) or gay related (American in Ireland John Fay is I believe a relation of Brendan Fay, founder of the Pink & Lavender Alliance in NYC); 3)a hard core "lefty" (most likely educated in England or educated in Ireland but by people who were educated in England) as is clearly evident from reading this website.
So you must view stories on IC thru an English prism; hence it is a pitch, not a field and the score is presented with the home team first, regardless of who won, despite the fact the game is an American one.
P.S. If you really want to read about Notre Dame, go on ND Nation.com, a website founded and run by ND graduate who know the score.
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JVMullin | Nov 01, 2010, 05:17 PM EDT
Notre Dame should join the Big Ten. You have natural rivalries with Michigan, Michigan State and Purdue, and you can develop others with Ohio State, Iowa, Penn State, Nebraska and others. Give up your exclusive televison contract and you'll make much more money from your appearances on the Big Ten Network. In addition, Big Ten teams share their Bowl Game winnings with each other!
What else have you got to gain?
How about membership in the Committee on Institutional Cooperation, (CIC) an academic consortium of the universities in the Big Ten plus the University of Chicago.
The CIC is the national model for effective, voluntary collaboration among top-tier research universities
CIC universities confer, on average, 15% of all Ph.D. degrees awarded annually in the United States. They engage in $6 billion of funded research, receiving some 12 percent of the total federal research funds awarded annually (18 percent of the National Science Foundation total, and 15.7 percent of the USDA total).
CIC member libraries own more book volumes (more than 80 million volumes) than the 10 campuses of the University of California system (34 million) and the Ivy League (64 million).
Not too shabby: Great football rivalries, a lucrative share of proceeds from the Big Ten network, and membership in the best academic consortium in the United States.
You will no-doubt play a tough conference schedule, and you wont makke it into the new Big Ten Championship game every year, but you will still be able to schedule Navy and USC as non-conference opponents if you want. What have you got to lose?
Your status as an independent. What is that really worth?
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mrkennedy | Nov 01, 2010, 04:37 PM EDT
I have been a Notre Dame fan all my life until this year. Why, because of the award to Obama! Fr. Jenkins and the board members have to learn a lesson. You don't honor individuals who are PRO-ABORTION!!!! One of my very close friends who attended N.D. has dropped the school from his Living Trust that earmarked a 7 figure amount. He is included in the $120,000,000 that Notra Dame has lost!!!!
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patconrey | Nov 01, 2010, 10:38 AM EDT
Even I know that you do one run play to bleed the clock and kick the FG. I recall the same error at end of half vs. Mich.
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davekemp | Nov 01, 2010, 09:49 AM EDT
I believe it is called the football field and not the pitch. The scores are presented with the wining score first 28, and the losing score second, 27. Linebacker, Tanner Antle.
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Lucky14 | Oct 31, 2010, 03:09 PM EDT
I was up there during Faust. I'm not sure we are there quite yet. Close. But not yet. I will admit that I was not surprised in the least when it happened. But IMO, they should never have even played that game. To end it this way was just the 2nd instance of poor judgement (a much smaller one) this week.
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walleyeman | Oct 31, 2010, 11:24 AM EDT
I am an old enough fan to call the decision by Kelly to not kick a field goal a "FAUSTIAN" mistake. I have a son-in-law that was recruited by Kelly at one of his previous schools. He did not take his offer thought he was too full of himself. Kid was spot on.
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