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How the Irish defeated the best of Britain at 1908 London Olympics

Forced to declare for America, they took revenge for not having their country recognized


John J. Hayes
John J. Hayes

As Britain hosts the Summer Olympic Games in London, we look back on the first great modern Olympic confrontation between the United States – most of whose top athletes were Irish – and Britain, which took place in London in 1908. Notably, they were the last Olympic Games at which the judging committee was made up entirely of people from the host country.

In 1908, as the world’s attention focused on the Olympic Games in London, Britain had decided again not to allow Ireland to field its own team, saying simply that “Ireland is not a nation.” All Irish athletes would have to compete as members of the British team.

The policy had worked well for Britain in the 1906 Intercalated Olympics in Athens, where Irish athletes won most of Britain’s medals in track and field. Having to represent Britain infuriated the Irish athletes. One of them, Peter O’Connor, rushed to the Olympic flagpole after winning the hop, step and jump, and pulled down the Union Jack, which had been raised in honor of his victory. In its place he flew a green flag for Ireland.

Despite O’Connor’s action, Britain was now out to garner more victories by such “British” athletes in the 1908 Olympics in London. Several Irish champions refused to compete rather than be used again by the British. Helplessly watching the latest British suppression of Irish nationalism put the Irish Americans at a fever pitch.

On July 13, King Edward declared the Fourth Olympiad opened. The stadium displayed the flags of all the competing nations, except that of the United States. Where was the American flag? The British said that they had been unable to find one. Equally insulting, the American team was assigned a marching position just in front of the “British Colonies,” who, in turn, were followed by the United Kingdom. The symbolism could not have been lost on anyone present.

As the music of Grenadier Guards filled the stadium, King Edward settled into the royal box with Queen Alexandra and Princess Victoria at his side.

At the Bugler’s signal, the gate leading to the athletes’ quarters was flung open and the parade of national teams began. One by one, they marched and dipped their flags to the King of England. It was a glorious moment for the host nation. Even the hard rain that had drenched the stadium earlier in the day had stopped. God seemed to be smiling on the empire.

Then came the Americans, including the world-record hammer thrower and New York City cop, Matthew J. McGrath. When they approached the royal box, the County Tipperary-born McGrath, a six-foot, two-inch, 245-pound human bull of a man, stepped beside the team’s flag bearer and is rumored to have  said, “Dip that banner and you’re in hospital tonight.” Old Glory went unbowed past the King of England.

The English were left in shock. London newspapers lashed the Americans with the severest criticism they could muster and called for an apology. Veteran Olympian and world-record discus thrower Martin J. Sheridan, another New York City cop, spoke of “Mighty Matt” McGrath and the other American team members when he answered the English by pointing to the flag and saying, “This flag dips to no earthly king.” The precedent had been set. To this day the United States does not dip its flag at Olympic ceremonies.


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Seano.You are dead right.It all about money.It's easy to know this.It's about how much a government is willing to spend.Twenty years ago ("Great" Britain)*rolls eyes.What other idiot sh*tass nation in the world puts great in front of it's name.lolol..Anyway twenty years ago the Brits won only five gold medals and less before that.And now it's in the twenties.That's inconsistent.The Brits are either cheating with some drug that can't be detected or they are spending billions.Simple as that.Like football clubs in England when you can buy glory it's a hollow victory.Which is why the Irish people appreciate and make it really special for the likes of our boxer Katie.We know money is not needed to make a good boxer.Pick 4.5 million Irishman/woman and 4.5 million Englishmen/women at random with a level playing field.And the Irish will kick English ass at everything..Except jellied eel eating and rotting teeth.Fact
What were you saying about gold medals clowny?? All winners of medals are to be commended.
Yadda yadda seano! You can't escape the fact that she is still Queen of the country you choose to live in! Do try to show a little more respect and gratitude to her; there's a good chap! I am glad you seem to be enjoying (however vicariously)the British triumphs at the London 2012. Olympics.
Clowngate FYI the British cycling,rowing and swimming teams have Aussie coaches and the Chinese swim team train in Queensland again with Aussie coaches. Its all about money. BTW "bottom dweller unrealist" I stated "the LOWLIFE can have the flag in his cell thats hardly defending his rights.Just a little info for you clowny.The oath of allegiance to Lizzy had been removed many years ago.
Well Done!! Seano LOL.Gold medal for winding-up Lizzy the Huns subjects so well.Seano when you go into detail where England have claimed glory you will find 90% of the time it wasn't an Englishman at all.~*They phone Gambia. Hey!!Kunta Kintae old chap!!This is the British Olympic Association.We saw you chasing down a gazelle on You Tube.How would you like to be British in the next Olympics?You are in the Commonwealth Kunta.We'll give you a fine British meal of jellied eels if you come over.lol
Seanomelb: As a South Brit you should be pleased the other loyal subjects of your Queen of Australia are doing so well stageing and winning so many medals in the Mother Country! You must be feeling really old and homesick, poor lamb!
seano: Lol, the sort of schoolboy anti-British insecurity that this 'article' respresents is right up your street, isn't it? However, I noticed you were on another thread defending the rights of a convicted brothel owner involved in the human traffic of young women. I wonder, what does that tell us about you?
Move on, write about our wonderful athletics we have today, like Aileen Morrison!
The moronic west Brits are on the ramparts defending their Quisling mindset.
I guess the success of the British team and the London Olympics in general must really hurt, eh Roger? Why can't you write a positive article supporting the Republic of Ireland team instead of this ex-girlfriend's poison pen-letter? Yet another pathetic attention-seeking low for IC. Sad, but all-too-predictable.
Inflammatory Headline, Roger! - are you under starters orders from above to Bash the Brits at this time of their current triumphant staging of the Olympics? ... you will know there has been a Marathon problem historically, regarding Irelands Olympic identity since 1903. The discussion continues to this day with the IOC refusing to accept a 'Northern Ireland' title, but only either 'Britain' (Team GB) or 'Ireland' meaning the whole Island. Athletes living on the Island can chose who they wish to represent, which seems simple ... and yet, and yet, the BBC stubboornly and significantly choose to use the designation 'Great Britain and Northern Ireland' on their Olympic Websites. Lastly; you accuse Britain of 'using' Irish talent and taking the credit ... does the same apply to the Irish ex-Pats who competed for America?
Isn't it generally agreed that this flag stuff is pure bunkum? I heard this tall tale first surfaced in the 1940s.
 




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