This Saturday’s game between Notre Dame and Navy at Aviva Stadium in Dublin will mark a momentous occasion for both sides, the latest chapter in a relationship that dates back to 1914.
It is a vital relationship.
Without Navy, Notre Dame may not still exist. In spite of its on field success, Notre Dame fell on hard times in World War II. The school’s population dwindled to a depression era number of 2,623 students in 1943 and a 20 percent reduction in five years led to stark financial problems for the school.
Then the Navy came to Notre Dame’s rescue.
According to Notre Dame president Hugh O’Donnell, the school “offered all of the facilities of this institution to the government. In April of 1943 the V-7 Indoctrination School was created and the first group of 900 men, all college graduates enlisted for one month as apprentice seamen.” [PNDP 30-Mi-02; “Notre Dame’s Naval ROTC Unit,” Notre Dame, Fall 1959].
The late Notre Dame Vice President, Emeritus Joyce, also shared the same sentiments of Navy’s importance to the school. "All I can say is without the Navy during the war, this institution would have gotten down to a few hundred students.
"Instead of that, we were almost twice our normal size during the war, and we were able to contribute something to the Navy."
The navy signed a contract with the South Bend-situated school at the time, guaranteeing $487,711 for its infrastructure needs and administrative expenses.
Notre Dame has never forgotten Navy’s kindness and support in its time of dire need. In fact, in the 1950s and 60s when colleges across the country en masse were ending their ROTC programs, Notre Dame stood by Navy and allowed its University to serve as a base for college naval recruits.
These warm mutual feelings are put aside when Navy and Notre Dame face off on the gridiron. Reverend Emerald Joyce said it best, “Gee, I wish the Navy would win — but not this year."
The relationship of course stretches back much further. Pre-World War I, both schools were planting the early seeds of their respective college football programs. In 1887, Notre Dame was defeated in its first ever game against Michigan, 8-0, and finished its first three seasons with a respectable 31-15-4 (though some of these victories were notched against high school teams).
Its identity was shaped in these formative years as it is commonly believed Notre Dame was given its nickname by a rowdy group of Northwestern fans shouting “Kill the Fighting Irish. Kill the Fighting Irish” during halftime of a game in 1899.
As Notre Dame was off to an auspicious start, Navy threw its helmet into the ring and in 1890 began its football program against Army.
Playing in West Point, the Midshipmen got off to a winning start by blanking the Black Knights 24-0 in what would be the first of a record straight 112 annual games.
Navy and Notre Dame finally crossed paths in 1914.
The Midshipmen sunk the Fighting Irish under coach Jesse Harper 20-6 in its inaugural game. This would be a rare loss for the blue and gold that lead the all-time series 71-12-1 and once reeled off a record 43 straight wins against the Midshipmen.
This series has included such highlights as the first fighting Irish forward pass (1913), the formation of the “four horseman” (1924), and Rockne’s legendary “win if for the gipper” speech (1928).
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.VonLiebenitz | Sep 01, 2012, 05:53 PM EDT
Ah i see so the vaunted Notre Dame University is in fact a shameful war profiteer and owe their continued existence to war.How heartwarming.The message here is war is good right?Wrong.
Fitzyboy | Sep 01, 2012, 08:07 AM EDT
to EdMahoney's point, not only will ND play Navy every year, but @ neutral site so Navy can reap the financial benefits ..
Porickseantuny | Aug 31, 2012, 08:09 PM EDT
It's Fr. Edmund Joyce
EdMahoney | Aug 31, 2012, 02:56 PM EDT
To Brian Fitzgerald - Brian, You should have also added the fact that Notre Dame was so thankful to the U.S. Navy that they guaranteed that no matter what happened after the war that Notre Dame would play Navy every year for as long as Navy wished. Ed
PhoenixZouave | Aug 31, 2012, 02:29 PM EDT
By the way, the most famous naval candidate to complete officer candidate school at Notre Dame was the noted film star------KIRK DOUGLAS.
SeamusMor | Aug 31, 2012, 12:21 PM EDT
It should come as no surprise that the Navy sells more tickets, etc. for it's home games against Notre Dame than any other opponent, which are often scheduled to be played in large stadiums at neutral sights. The Navy's take on each game is greater than the total it provided to the University during the entire war. It's not about money; it's about honor and fidelity. My hat is off to these two great institutions whose traditions, ideals, and achievements are the pride of our nation. I pray for sunshine in Dublin for a Fighting Irish victory after great game without injuries or penalties! GO IRISH!!!
slainte9 | Aug 31, 2012, 11:50 AM EDT
Stolen valor: If Notre Dame acknowledges their Irish Brigade "Fighting Irish" heritage then there's not a problem. But if they insist they have no such heritage, then calling themselves the "Fighting Irish" is no different than wearing a Medal of Honor you didn't earn.
slainte9 | Aug 31, 2012, 11:15 AM EDT
First: no plagiarism. Notre Dame got its nickname from the Irish Brigade chaplains and soldiers who returned to the school after the Civil War. The 69th New York (aka the Irish Brigade) has long been known as the "Fighting Irish", this is well documented as the NY Times even referred to them as such in the 19th century. Second: the Navy was long beholding to the Irish. Senator David I. Walsh controlled their budget and was the sponsor of the Two Ocean Navy Act, which created the armada that saved democracay during World War II.
murphy666 | Aug 31, 2012, 10:28 AM EDT
Go, Navy.
davekemp | Aug 31, 2012, 10:10 AM EDT
Notre Dame helped to introduce the "forward pass" to the national football audience. QB Gus Dorais passing to ends, George Gushurst and Knute Rockne. Not exactly a bunch of Irish American youths. But Gushurst did attend the Holy Cross Sisters' school in Lead, S. Dakota.