Top ten reasons why some Irish have no real clue about America

kinvara: "Measaim gur ceart é a iarraidh ar." Is this Klingon? It sure ain't Irish!

kinvara: " Níl tú ina údar ar an ábhar". PLEASE STOP TORTURING THE IRISH LANGUAGE! What did Irish ever do to you? Why are you mangling it every day on this site? That sentence is garbage. It is utterly meaningless, because it mixes up second person ( tú ) and third person (ina). If you show some humility I'm willing to correct that sentence for you. But only if you ask courteously, not with the foul rudeness you have shown hitherto.

@George: For a person who talks so much about the Irish language, it is striking how little you use it. I have attempted to speak to you in Irish previously (as have others) but you either disappear or you continue to use English, albeit cutting and pasting from the other person’s Irish message and making asinine comments. You are in no position to be talking about mistakes given you‘ve made plenty in the few messages you have written in Irish. I have a genuine love for Irish, and want to encourage others to speak it and use it. I think it is hilarious when you say: “I wouldn't correct anyone else on fairly small points like this” . On the rare occasions when you have used the language, it is in a condescending and insulting way to other posters, how does that help the language? I have pointed that out to you before, hence why you accuse me of the same (imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!) You are a character, and no doubt the people who know you consider you a character too!

Gabh mo leithscéal, cén fáth a bhfuil tú ag labhairt Béarla? Mar a cheile agamsa é. Níl tú ina údar ar an ábhar. Más buam mo chuimhne dúirt tú go raibh Gaeilge agat, ach ca bhfuil sé? Duirt mise san sliocht seo: ‘Tá mé ag léamh an t-úrscéal staire 'Fontenoy' le an t-údar Liam Mac Cóil‘ (by the author). Má bhíonn tú I bhfad eile ar an imeacht sin, ní bheidh aon duine ag labhairt leat. Tar sa cheann seo de: chuir mé ceist ort faoi na leabhair atá á léamh agat (duirt mé go raibh spéis faoi leith agam i Nua-phrós na Gaeilge) ach ní raibh aon fhreagra. Cén fath? Measaim gur ceart é a iarraidh ar. An bhfuil tú ag léamh aon litríocht na Gaeilge? No aon chineál leabhair! Maidir le Joyce: tá tú aineolach ar an fear agus Ulysess. Ní hé gur miste liom.

Ah Peter, I didnt realize you were a bond trader, Anglo perhaps. How do you think the US facilitates funding for its debt? What is your understanding of how the US borrows all these funds from China. Obama flies to Bejing and returns stateside with a 747 full of cash? The Chinese and many other Asian central banks view the United States as the safest place for its excess funds and in the market purchase US treasuries, safe in the knowledge that a US default is highly unlikely. These central banks also place funds with certain US banks, often at below market bids, secure in their safety.

Returning to the main argument about offensive language: do you not see the hypocrisy in your comments? It is clear that you want to offend; even your username is intended to offend. So explain how you think that you have better manners than the Irish people you denigrate? Don’t mind all this about ‘thin skin’, we Irish enjoy a lively conversation.

@Gobdaw: If you want to stand by your comments, well that’s a matter for yourself, but you are embarking on a trip into bigotry. I think you should focus on the main argument rather than going off on tangents; if the evidence backing up your comments relates to certain Irish politicians, may I point out to you, that you are building your castle on sand –so to speak. I am more than happy to talk about some American politicians if you wish “The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur”, "But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies." Do any of these quotes ring a bell? There are already some good ones from the current campaign. So your observations are very blinkered. If you point a finger –there are four pointing back at you. (By the way, you don’t seem to be too familiar with our political structures –it is called the Dáil not Congress and the Taoiseach is appointed by the President upon the nomination of Dáil Éireann; so Brian Cowen was not elected by the people as you state). Perhaps your observational skills are not as good as you think?

Gobshite The Chinese didn't invest you thick sh*t.It's borrowed money.China has financed much of their nation’s public and private debt. During the presidential campaign, Barack Obama and John McCain generally agreed on the peril of BORROWING so heavily from this one foreign source. For instance, in their final debate, McCain warned about the “$10 trillion debt we’re giving to our kids.It's now $15 trillion and $2 trillion of that is American debt.You really are a clown.

kinvara, I have indeed made observations that "70% of Irish people are a bit on the shhhlow side. These 70% are bereft of intelligence, manners, social skills, common sense", I have referred to the Irish as "a backward race". These assessments were not made overnight and the 70% figure was given some thought. I deal with Irish people, in Ireland, on a daily basis and I do find them a little 'lacking'. I love the place for vacation but find it difficult to deal with its people on a serious basis. Irish people elect clowns such as 'the drunken moron' to be Taoiseach, they vote for people such as Mick Wallace, Ming, Conor Lenihan, his aunt Mary, Martin Cullen, Michael Martin etc. etc. to represent them. In any other jurisdiction in the world the Healy-Rae's would be in the circus, but the people of South Kerry vote them into congress. I realize that it is often hard to handle the truth, but my observations were garnered over considerable time, during dozens of visits. If Irish posters here are so thin skinned they should stick to the Beano website.

But shur Peter, Paddy is like a whore, they will do business with anybody with cash. As regards the Chinese owning the US, this is yet another example of an SFB mucksavage making a silly statement. The Chinese have invested heavily in the United States because they believe it a safe place to place their funds. This is why yields on 10 year treasuries are running below 2% and Ireland would have to pay 7% if it went to the market. Central banks worldwide are placing excess funds with the major US banks at below market bids because they have confidence in the US. Don't make silly statements without the facts as it just re-enforces your image here as a backward gobshite.

I met a young American girl the other day in a store in Cork City. When I asked her where she was from after sharing a laugh, she replied "America,but I dont know if thats ok or not". I thought how awful! Why does she feel this way? Such a nice person visiting her ancestral roots. What has been said to make her feel this way? If a poll was carried out here in Ireland outside of this article, you would find that Irish people have high regard for Americans. We need to remember our government are no different to the US government...Our land is being sold off by our own people to foreign investors, our crops are being genetically modified, our people are feeding their young on fast food and being told by magazines, tv, etc that its healthier than fruit, our children are being forced one education and religion due to society fearing change..Our land is now being sold for "Fracking" which we were warned against by Americans...Some of us listened but our government has ignored our plea... Talking nonsense about one group of people disliking another when they are both the same. Im 100% irish with American family and love them as much as my Irish family here. I lived in America and experienced many states from East to West, North and South and I love the country. I would also like to apologise for any mispelling, Enlgish is not my original language!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Georgie Boy.You have mistakes too.But I'm not going to give you anytime on educating you on the Irish language.Not until you seek therapy and you are able to except your stupidity.

This entire exchange is silly. There are Americans who have never left their state and there are Irish who have never left their county. THe Irish are a wonderful people if you let them be Irish. Don't arrive with expectations of a peat fire and a white watshed, Thatched cottage. IN general I finf Dublin and Belfast least appealing. It's only an opinion. BTW someone mentioned Germany invading Irealnd. They gave it some thought. Finally, they concluded the IRA couldn't manage a train wreck and gave up on it.

@Gobdaw: If you think that a comment like: "70% of Irish people are a bit on the shhhlow side. These 70% are bereft of intelligence, manners, social skills, common sense", is not offensive then you are not being honest as regards this discussion. You have called the Irish "a backward race". However, you will say that this is not meant to offend but to inform, and again you are not being honest. Is calling Ireland "Paddyland" an example of your good manners? Indeed do the above comments display common sense? Is your failure to notice that they are offensive, evidence of your level of intelligence? Considering your failure to notice all this, I think you should go and look in the mirror -there's a good chance that some Thanksgiving turkey is still stuck in your teeth!

Addendum: kinvara's "faoi Máirtín Ó Cadhain" is also wrong, should be "faoi Mháirtín Ó Cadhain". I wouldn't correct anyone else on fairly small points like this, but kinvara is a fascist, he uses the Irish language as a weapon to attack others. So he'd better get it right (so far he hasn't!).