The Irish Homecoming - Time to move back to Ireland if you are thinking of it

I stumble into a Sons of the Hibernians gathering ... lost. They set me on the right path. Blessing on them all. I asked about their organization, and joining ... alas, my only REAL association to the Emerald Jewel is the contribution of red hair brought by my Scandinavian, Viking, fore-bearers .... .... is there no mercy for the misbegotten ?

Just moved back last September with three older kids after 10 years in NJ. Love both countries however Ireland is so laid back and relaxed in comparison. Love living closet the sea, lots of people out jogging, walking and out town is buzzing. Kids have much more time off school which they love, College is free and sports clubs are so inexpensive compared to NJ. We were paying 2000 a year for our 11 year old to play with NJ Rangers. Our local club here with turf , floodlit pitches and clubhouse is 130 euro a year. Groceries are such good value in comparison to shop rite and acme but eating out very expensive unless you go for an earlybird or use a group on. HS better in NJ and generally the US are much more organized. our son went on a trip to Europe and we got minimal information home. We didn't gave to sign any paperwork or insurance forms , just pay the money and turn up at the airport. So different from the US and takes a bit of getting used to. Kids walk and bus it everywhere, cars at 17 unheard if. Little ones ride their scooters and walk to school in the mornings too. Overall we miss the warm weather in NJ, the reliable communications and great organization with schools, sports clubs and and day trips to NYC. We love Ireland for the scenery, Proximity to European cities, great restaurants that stay open after 10pm, relaxed way of life. We don't like the rain, lack of snow, high of gas and cars and social welfare system. Every place has its pro and cons. We all have US citizenship and ave no doubt our kids will return to the land of opportunity but for the moment we are enjoying the beautiful Emerald Isle.

Best of luck and good fortune to you and yours.

esatdigiwank no such thing as blow-ins now, ah the begrudgers April, I wish you well. Even with the cutbacks things get tough but there is no place like Ireland, especially in the rural country areas, which is heaven for children. Enjoy. Like every country you get to find out where the bargains are. When I was in NY, it seemed to be trendy to phone out for meals delivered rather than home cooking, and I am not talking pizza del. I seen so many even going out to breakfast of all things. Give me the simple life, my cottage, orchard and veg garden, which so many of us still have over here. Dublin, Cork etc are just like any other cities, Ireland is still covered with green fields, and as April mentions, generations growing up together. Great.

"People can't afford to take a family to Europe anymore.." Maybe some of them ought to cut back on the weekly 'elbow-bending..

Think she could do with reading a little of David McWilliams' works; if only to discover how powerless being an 'Outsider is in Ireland. To find that you can only ever get so far in the sphere of lets say decision-making at local level, that biased parochial favouritism will thwart your children's ambitions. Or to be more extreme, she can try Frank McCourt's revelatory depiction of life in Limerick (albeit in the 1950s?), insofar as Ire. is reverting to that execrable time again. He did not stick around very long - hotfooted it back to NY. You have to be resident an inordinate length of time before you are no longer considered a blow-in, in many parts..

Good luck with buying a house by the time you get one the tax on it will cost you more than the mortgage as for it less expensive there you gota be kidding me.We will see what you have to say after the budget

I live in Washington DC and don't find it to be nearly as costly for dinner/drinks out as she was paying in NY but its a matter of where you go and how upscale or lowscale you go. All depends what you compare with. There is no doubt about it that Aldi and Lidl are a hell of a lot cheaper - i see that everytime I'm home too - I do however see how expensive most things are from cars, to gas, to clothing - you even go to an outlet mall in Ireland (and there arent that many but I was in Kildare the last time i was home - its a far cry from a US outlet - all they've done is recreated Grafton Street in Kildare and called it an outlet - you still pay 5 times for a standard branded top there what you'd pay here in the USA in Filenes of Maxx etc. Clothing in Dunnes and Pennies has come on in quality and is the best value but beyond that hard to find good bargains in ireland (even for kids clothing). Sales are not real sales there either. Having said all that, the more important remark in the article is that its been a happy transition and I totally agree the part about the quality of life for the kids with relations around them. I miss my 4 year old niece and would love to be closer but there is no way id get as good a job or quality of life there as I have in the USA now - for now it will be visits whenever i can get the cheaper flights!

I live in the the NY metro area and dinner out with a few drinks or a bottle of wine usually cost me about $45 to $55 pp. I can't imagine where they were eating that cost $100 pp plus!

Your conversion of euros to dollars is way off. 150euro for diesel equals $187.50. Today's stock market rate is $1.25 per euro. You multiply euros by 1.25 to get your answer. Friends just returned from Ireland paid up to $1.35 per euro when cashing in their american money. Dining out in Ireland, even at the smallest places,is expensive. Wine, etc. 2-1/2times or more, than US. Good luck.

Good Luck to Ms Drew, but she certainly is in a minority as regards Irish people who return to live there. I have known quite a few, including one poor guy who had not bothered to take out US citizenship. When he got sick of living back in Ireland, and thought of his much better life over here, he tried to come back. Unfortunately, he had been out of the US too long--US Immigration at Shannon took his Green Card and wouldn't let him enter the US. I hope Ms Drew is a US citizen, at least that gives her a choice. As regards cost of living, i would say to compare Ireland with NY is unrealistic. Much better to compare Ireland with PA, or North Carolina, or Texas. In that case you'll find that Ireland is pretty expensive. The only thing I see Ireland consistently less expensive is fruit. We have really lost the plot in the US with fruit prices, I don't know what's going on in California. In Ireland you buy nice fruit for half what you pay here. Pus, there's a great range and quality, plums, avocados, peaches, kiwi, etc that is much better than where I live. Of course there are questions about Ireland's importing apples from Chile or Brazil, kiwis from Kenya, grapes from South Africa etc. Not good for the environment.

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I would not want auto rely on on this ladies info I she thinks Ireland is cheaper than the good old USA . I am in Ireland for a month and I don't see things cheaper How about the cost of petrol probably two and one half times more expensive. I think this lady thinks she is buying things in dollars instead of euros. I spoke to a lady in workinG in a Bank who has been here 16 years and can't wait to get back to New York. Ms Drew you should be happy your kids areUS citizens so they will have the opportunity tOgo back to the States legally as. No doubt they will want to.

Good update on your return to Ireland and the family. It is very expensive living here, in the NE. Ireland isn't inexpensive, either, though as you say, you never have to travel too far to get where you want to be in Ireland. You lucky woman,you! I had the Fota Island Wildlife park on my list of places to see, alas, you can only see so much on a 2 week vacation. Sláinte!

Very nice. So many times I see people who moved in one direction or another spend their words bashing the place they left instead of describing the joy of the "new" home. I suspect those people will soon discover they don't like that place so much either. Your article is wondeful.