New study claims that Irishmen descended from Turkish farmers

Turks arrived to Asia minor at around 1100AD. They have nothing to do with the Irish other than mayhaps uprooting, raping, pillaging and destroying populations somewhat related to them in the area. There were no Turks in Asia minor when St. Paul was alive and active. The only Turkish contribution to the world is adding more syroup to Arab desserts and adding more chilly to Greek dishes. Oh yeah, and the toilet where you stand instead of sit.

Couldn't agree more with Richard1965. Any cursory look at early european history shows the colonization of Galatia, eastern Turkey, by Gauls of the western seaboard, the same people St Paul was so fond of writing to. A relationship exclusive to the male only line would equally apply to 'Turkish farmers descended from irish sailors'. God knows a few boatloads of good looking celtic sailors serenading the the farmers wives could do a lot. We do tend to get around! In irish we were taught that a man of african descent was 'fear goirme', i.e. a blue man. Fascinating stuff about the philological relationships though far from surprising given Richards post. If one is of the tribe of Judah then one is jewish. If you're descended from the tribe of Dan you're probably danish or in an irish context tuath de danaan. They were one of the twelve who declined to occupy their given plot and stayed aboard their boats.

Now, It is said in the Article that the markers are the least coming from Turkey and increasing to high in the British Isles...Has the Author forgotten that a Celtic tribe had conquered turkey...Glatia?....And that even St. Jerome had said that the people still spoke a Celtic Dialect...That is how recent that thaey were still retaining their identity as Celts...And Markers would be lower in Turkey with a higher frequency the closer you get to the British Isles because the origin of the Celts in Turkey is from West to East and not East to West...So, yes, the Turkish do share ancestry with those of Celtic ancestry because their indigenous ancestors were conquered by a Celtic tribe, the Galiti, from Europe...So it is logical that you would find the same markers in them that you would find in Irish males...However, If it had transpired from East to west as the author states, then don't you think the place of origin would have the highest concentration of the markers?...

To find out more common words in Irish and Turkish,Please send email to hus.djemal@gmail.com and I will respond to your email.

Box in Irish bosca and in Turkish bohca. Cup in Irish cupán and in Turkish kupa(cupa). Lid in Irish caipín and in Turkish kapak(capack). Lord in Irish Tiarna and In Turkish Tengri or Tanri(means God). Nail In Irish Inge or ionga and in Turkish iğne (ng=ğ). needle in Irish dealgándelgen in Turkish delgen. Fall in Irish titim and in Turkish itim. Foot or leg in Irish cos in Turkish cos(koş) means run. Shit in Irish cac and in Turkish kak. Strong in Irish daingean and in Turkish dincgen. You all in Irish sibh and in Turkish siz. Put, gather, assemble in Irish cóimeáil and in Turkish curmak(kurmak). Sow seed or bury in Irish cuir and in Turkish köm or göm. Stretch(cloth) in Irish sín and in Turkish sín sün or sündür. Stretch out in Irish sín ar and in Turkish süner. Woow

Let's have a look some common words in Irish and Turkish. Hay for Irish word saidhe in Turkish saman. English word for stupit, messy, dirty is salack in Irish and salak in Turkish. Nickname in Irish is leabisim and in Turkish laabisim. Hut in Irish bothán and in Turkish baraska. Trip in Irish and Turkish turas. Back in Irish is droim and in Turkish dön. Belt in Irish crois and In Turkish kolan. Barbaric in Irish barbartha and in Turkish barbarca. Boa in English boska and in Turkish bohca. I found over 500 words very similar. This is wooow.

English Celtic / Irish Turkic (Turkish) Hay saidhe saman Stupid, messy, dirty salach salak Nickname leasainm laabisim Hut bothán baraka Trip – turas turas turat(tur) Back – droim dön belt crios kusak(cusak,kolan) barbaric – barbartha barbarca box - bosca bohça(made from fabrick) beak gob gaga cup – cupán kupa Lid – claibín-caipín kapak Lord – Tiarna Tainri / tengri / tanrı (god) Nail Inge, ionga iğne (ng=ğ) needle dealgándelgen delgen Fall – titim it / tim / itim Foot, leg, cos koş (means run) Shit – cac kak / kaka Strong daingean dinçgen You all sibh/sibhse siz, size put gather assemble cuir kur sow / bury cuir kom/göm / köm Stretch (cloth) sín sün (sündür) Stretch out sín ar süner

Posted by erieshark on Feb 01, 2010, 10:38 AM EST Does this explain the "black Irish"? Dear erieshark, Irish are not black. Turks are not black. Get your eyes tested. Last thing is Blacks are nice people as well. In Ireland they use the word black for a color or none Irish. Will you get out of that and open your eyes.

There are many similar words in Irish and Turkish and yet Ireland and Turkey are to far a part geographically. At one stage they must branched out from the same ancestor.

it was published in PLoS Biology

"what do I think" --- I think first that it would have been more than informative to have a citation to the study in question, rather than having to read through Walshie's interpretation of the Times of London's interpretation of Patricia B.'s blatherings, unless of course the University of Leicester didn't publish their study and what "parts" of Iberia? wouldn't be surprising that antecedents' genes should be quite similar in Gallicia and Galatia,let alone Galway or at least Connemara and by all means read Oppenheimer, but also read Sykes

Odd but true. They didn't bring a few poppy seeds or other exotic herbs to Ireland when they migrated far beyond the Turkish hills with their 'genes'. Many years years ago in Istanbul I was offered a lump of stuff the size of a bar of bath soap in The Grand Bazaar in exchange for a pair of Levi blue jeans. It looked like a clump of hard turf. I was so dumb at the time I didn't know what it was--Hashish. However; I was back-packing around Asia Minor and wherever with a Swiss and an Austrian (who remain life-long friends). One of whom immediately bartered for and bought a Jallaba robe at another stall, took off and handed the guy selling copper urns and carpets the very jeans he had on. For the next few days the three of us wandered round ancient Constantinople as high as kites. It's architecture and customs. Mea Culpa. We went to the Hagia Sophia Mosque removed our shoes at the door and did all the bowing and stuff on the mats. Being Irish Catholic I of course had scuples but comforted myself that it's walls had known the chants of Christianity. The Swiss and Austrian nodded in accord though Protestant if not Atheist. I have only the best memories of my Turkish ancestors.

I suggest reading Stephan Oppenheimer's 2006 book The Origins Of The British for a more detailed explanation. Parts 1 & 2 focus on Ireland and the Celts.

This should not be a major surprise since the Celts have had a branch of their migration stay in Turkey as well as coastal France, the northern coast of Spain and other areas in Europe as well as in Wales & in Ireland.

The Jews are descended from the tribe of Judah which is one of the 12 tribes of the Israelite s just to correct some posters on here, The rest of the tribes are people of many beliefs and religions and are generally unknown which makes them "Lost" in there actual whereabouts.