Joe Kennedy, Sr sought secret deal with De Valera on Irish ports during the War

'Google whats a little debt between friends' click on the BBC, read. now ask yourself what difference would it of made bar the Deal the Americans gave the British versus the Deal the Germans gave the Irish more recently. Mute point then, Fanta anyone?

Such a shame the Irish lost out on the opportunity to get all the great stuff the UK got for free from the US just for a few bases. If you google 'whats a little debt between friends' you read the BBC link. The Irish government of the must of been hoping in secret that Nazi Germany would win. See how hope and dreams can interfere with good reasoning. There are exceptions to the Rule though in General its hard to get away with plundering yet so many make the same mistake. Its no big deal, many Limey's have a secret hope that China will crush the US don't they? Go on admit it, your still in hope of back taxes since 1775 regardless of the deal the US gave you in World War 2. Anyway back to my book writing duties 'the Girl who lived in the cuckoo clock with the fairy tattoo part 5 and a half'.

joe kennedy NOT a bootlegger??? say it ain't SO! Re Kennedy and ND, I never heard of any of that clan attending there... good enough to use for politics but not for education? too concerned with ethical formation?

Joe Kennedy the first to break the "glass ceiling" for the Irish Catholics in America? Hogwash. Many Irish Catholics in America had reached the pinnacle of American politics before the mid-1930s. Al Smith, as mentioned, ran for Prez in '28 and had served as Governor of NY. Irish Americans served as key Senators and Congressmen since the 1890s. Ed Dunne was Mayor of Chicago and Governor of Illinois by the time he lobbied Wilson for Irish independence in 1919. Jim Farley was in FDR's cabinet, a higher rank, before Joe Kennedy was named ambassador. Also, Irish Catholic Wild Bill Donovan was the Deputy Attorney General of the US in 1926 and was later picked by FDR to create and head up the OSS, the forerunner to the CIA. Joe Kennedy was one of many.

Say what you want however....Joe Kennedy "broke through" a glass ceiling against all things Irish, and should be given credit for it.

The Americans rewriting history? Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger; the priest told me!

A Omen to Gerry Adams ! Don`t let Sinn Fein become another Cuba or Kennedy Family !

Let us not forget Sir Winston Lord Churchill's offer to hand back the 6 north eastern Irish counties to Dev in his pithy wartime telegram: "Now is the time - Now or never - A nation once again!" in exchange for Ireland's input to war on the British and/or Irish Isles' mainland.

Gobshite! He was close and friendly with every irish gangster when he was trading stocks before 1929.

Jack from whom would these submarines be hiding,

What's in a name? Everything. Krock should get a non de plume. His tome sounds like it's a crock. Suddenly, Krock has found that the Sr. Kennedy was not a bootlegger/gangster. What a Krock/crock.

Of course JimCallahan is correct. Kennedy was the second Catholic to receive the nomination of a major political party for President. I believe, John Kerry was the third Catholic to receive a major party nomination. JFK was also the ONLY Catholic ever elected President of the United States. He was assassinated after 1000 days in office. Always though Joe Kennedy Sr. was an interesting Irish American.

Postmaster was Farley.

U.S. Navy used the steep fjord like gorges on the West Atlantic Coast of Ireland to hide submarines.

Secert?!I thought this was common knowledge!