Irish historian discovers that Abraham Lincoln donated to Ireland during the Great Famine
After 20 years research, new book will show gift to starving Irish by future American president
Published Friday, September 28, 2012, 7:04 AM
Updated Friday, September 28, 2012, 7:04 AM
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EphraimKibbey | Oct 02, 2012, 01:41 AM EDT
By George, curtisjohnson, I think you've hit upon the nexus of our problem in America. That is why Romney and the GOP blame the 47%. Good job!
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curtisjohnson | Oct 01, 2012, 09:19 PM EDT
when all other arguments to justify a criminal enterprise fail, blame the victims!
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seanomelb | Oct 01, 2012, 07:59 PM EDT
In reference to 1916 Towngate claimed in a post some time ago that Patrick Pearse was a racist fascist. So much for "sacred cows".
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Towngate | Oct 01, 2012, 07:57 PM EDT
jacersagain: My point exactly! Shame on all Irish survivors of the Famine whose ancestors watched it happen right in front of them! To describe The Famine and 1916 etc as 'Sacred Cows' in not to deny the events took place; quite the opposite - it is simply a comment on the common practice of blindly blaming everything on everyone else and denying any native collusion. We have to be honest with ourselves and accept that. We owe that to all those who died.
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curtisjohnson | Oct 01, 2012, 04:02 PM EDT
@towntroll I wasn't answering your question but correcting your math to present value. "Remember the' massive net export' was of course executed by the 6 million Irish who were not affected by the Famine" No it was "executed" under the duress of the biggest military presence anywhere in the british empire at the time. Next towntroll will demonstrate how Auschwitz was a mere work factory.
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WoundedKnee | Oct 01, 2012, 03:30 PM EDT
bunkerhill: There's no need to give me a history lesson about Bunker Hill. And it would be nice if you read my comments before replying to them. I never spoke about "pro slavery Republicans". That's just nonsense on your part. What I did point out was the fact that the Yankee Republicans who wept bitterly about the injustices done to Blacks in the South very often were what were called "genteel" anti-Catholic and anti-Irish bigots. There is even anti-Catholicism in the great Bible of the Abolitionists, Uncle Tom's Cabin.
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bunkerhill | Oct 01, 2012, 01:06 PM EDT
Wounded Knee you might be surprised to know that Bunker is an old Yankee from New Hampshire, with a family arrival date of 1719. He chose the name bunkerhill because he has an ancestor, a 26 year old farmer from New Hampshire commemorated there, killed fighting the British (which means English in our language.) We are a husband and wife team. Bunker's family was also back in the war of 1812 when the English showed up again and burned Washington to the ground, and back again in the civil war to free the black slaves in the South. You certainly cannot paint the North Eastern part of the US as pro slavery Republicans. Massachusetts consistently sent Kennedys to Washington DC. And there is the huge French population from colonial days. However it is not your fault as it is a very popular thing to paint a people with one brush slanting which ever way you like. That is why history has to be explored.
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WoundedKnee | Oct 01, 2012, 01:05 PM EDT
Finally, we've discovered an Irish Holocaust denier. Some people would deny him free speech, but I say let Townie say what he wants--every syllable serves to bring his IQ down a point. Anyone who claims as Townie does that the Irish Famine is a "myth" is a certifiable imbecile.
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jacersagain | Oct 01, 2012, 12:35 PM EDT
Bejaysus Townie! – That comment of yours at 10.05am is way off the wall. Shame on you!
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Towngate | Oct 01, 2012, 10:05 AM EDT
CJ: you can't still be claiming 10 divided by 1 million is 500! Read the question properly! Remember the' massive net export' was of course executed by the 6 million Irish who were not affected by the Famine. - ergo: Our squatting/thieving Irish surviving Ancestors stood by and watched their poor fellow-Irish leave or starve! Its a hard bullet to bite - but it simply must be true! That is why the Famine is just another Sacred Cow nurtured by popular myth - because otherwise we would have to confront our internecine Irish nature,shame and Guilt.
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curtisjohnson | Sep 30, 2012, 10:51 PM EDT
@towntroll no moron - $10 then translates roughly into $500 now. Re the others, most of them were impoverished and emigrating. The English were shamed into the minimal aide they provided, which was grossly inferior to the massive resources they spent insuring a massive net export of food from the country. I'm sure your squatting/thieving ancestors were doing fine retaining the fruits of their crimes based on the massive british military presence at the time, however. What is this "racism" silliness.
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EphraimKibbey | Sep 30, 2012, 09:10 PM EDT
Abe was for binding up the wounds of the nation. If Booth's bullit had not silenced him, the reconstruction of the South might have been less corrupt. It was his talks with Grant and the other Union Generals late in the war that lead them to offer the surrender terms that were signed and which got them in trouble with many of the revenge seeking Unionists. The modern Republican and Democratic Parties are not the parties they were in Lincoln's time. Constituencies and platforms have devided and switched. The Confedercy (Democrats) split with Northerners (Republicans) over Southern States' Rights and "the property they gained by honest toil" (ie. their slaves.) (Google "Bonnie Blue Flag") Now which party do you associate with States Rights and property/wealth? When one party seizes the high ground, it forces the other to fight from the lowlands. (Google "Dixiecrats") Glad to know that Abe put his money where his mouth was but I am not surprised that he would walk the talk.
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seanomelb | Sep 30, 2012, 07:47 PM EDT
Who cares who he slept with !!he was a visionary and his vis of the republican party has been blighted when the Dixiecrats took over party many years ago.
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millman64 | Sep 30, 2012, 06:37 PM EDT
And now they're saying that honest Abe liked to lay in bed with men. Fer feck sake, can't we all just get the feck along?
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