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Exclusive Interview with Tim Pat Coogan - A policy of ethnic cleansing? Who’s to blame for the Irish Famine?

"The Famine Plot" tells the unvarnished truth about that epic disaster


Tim Pat Coogan
Tim Pat Coogan

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How, in a nation brimming with crops and surrounded on all sides by teeming seas, could the Irish people have starved in their millions in the middle of the 19th century?

The answer, according to noted Irish historian Tim Pat Coogan, is as unsettling as it is direct.

The biggest contributing factor to the Great Irish Hunger was that because of conquest, Ireland was a dependency with no government of its own between 1845 and 1852. It’s a dangerous and isolating scenario that Coogan suggests may be playing out still.

“As I wrote The Famine Plot I got an increasingly bad feeling. The reason that most of what occurred during the famine happened to the Irish was because we didn’t have a government,” he told the Irish Voice during a phone interview last week, not long after his highly publicized visa battle with the U.S. Embassy in Dublin was settled.

“We’re back to that now. We have lost our sovereignty and are depending on doles from Brussels, the IMF and so on. And we’re back to unemployment, emigration and suicide – and of course, to learned helplessness.”

That last condition, which arises from the long-term legacy of colonization and from the despair of never being able to master your own fate, has characterized so much of the Irish response to political and social challenges since the great hunger, Coogan contends.

For decades now Coogan, 77, one of Ireland’s most prominent historians and the former editor of The Irish Press, has studied the impact and consequences of the Great Hunger on the nation, and his research has now led to his new work The Famine Plot, his hard-hitting exploration of the most traumatic event in Irish history.

Perhaps the first and most remarkable thing about the legacy of the Great Hunger is the silence that immediately followed it. For almost a 100 years Irish historians and Irish officialdom were reluctant to address it because they were leery of its enormous emotive and political power.

Interestingly, Coogan was himself prevented from undertaking his own U.S. book tour to promote The Famine Plot due to being twice refused a visa by the American Embassy in Dublin last month. On his personal website he spoke of his unease over the unprecedented decision.

“Somebody, somewhere it appears did not want me to visit the United States to publicize my book on the Famine.  It was suggested to me that some securicrats in the U.S. Embassy had decided to do a good turn for their buddies in the British ‘spookdom’ by blocking my attempts to enter the United States on a book tour,” he said.

If this is true then the Great Hunger (and British officialdom’s response to it) has lost none of its power to unnerve. But how can you really postpone an honest telling of how upward of two million Irish people died without that being an insult to their dignity as people?

“I had been applying fruitlessly for a visa since September but inexplicably had two separate visa waivers turned down and finally after much unhelpful gobbledygook from the U.S. Embassy, had to apply for a non-immigrant visa,” Coogan explains.


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tory2x: thank you so kindly for noticing my diatribe, and you are very welcome. By the way, have you ever heard the saying, "pigs don't know pigs stink"?
When torytory cannot dispute the facts he hides behind the veil of "anglophobia".
“I also enjoy hearing englishmen describe the Irish hunger, the largest European social calamity of the 19th century, as an 'ethnic grudge.'” The irony being that, as demonstrated by, inter alia, the London Times articles during the famine, the english continued to hold an “ethnic grudge” against the Irish even after enslaving them, robbing all of their property (down to deforesting the island), outlawing ownership, forcing tithes to an alien “church,” and, incredibly, creating a class of felony for educating one’s children (this last one was a nice payback considering, in Spenser’s words, “the Saxons of England are said to have their letters and learning, and learned men, from the Irish). This does not even touch the surface of the centuries of atrocities such as half hangings, pitch and cap, crop burning, etc. It seems that no level of criminal activity can satiate their innate degeneracy.
I also enjoy hearing Englishmen describe the Irish hunger, the largest European social calamity of the 19th century, as an 'ethnic grudge.'
I always enjoy listening to Englishmen like ToryTory calmly inform us of what the Irish are thinking.
I am not 100% certain about this, but I am guessing that my Irish ancestors migrated to the US during the potato famine. They all came here during the first half of 1800s. I have four connections back to Ireland from the 1800s: O'Neill, Harney, McKenna and Anderson (Scots Irish). I feel so fortunate that they were able to make it to the United States, otherwise I would probably not exist.
Thanks Johnshiel for that banal and oh-so-typical Anglophobic diatribe.
I'm not being peremptory, but to suppose the psyche of an entire nation is predicated on some ethnic grudge is moronic beyond belief.
Enemy ownership of the land and control of the laws was in full exercise in the 1700's, before the Act of Union and the dissolution of an elected Irish gov't in Dublin. Weren't the Penal Laws at their zenith in the late 1700's? The arrogance and ugliness of English imperialism is to blame. "We deserve your lands and your dehumanization because, well, we're English!"
Trust an Englishman to tell you what the Irish are thinking. Or to deliver a timeline that informs them how and when they must put the past behind them like ToryTory just did. They have always been so insightful in this regard.
Steady on the melodrama, Cahir! They didn't starve in their millions (ie pl). Only approx one million (ie sing) starved. The Act of Union, 1800-1922 abolished Grattan's [Protestant Landed Gentry] Parliament in Dublin, with a little help of British bribes and peerages. It called protectionism, or nobbling a competitor. The great contemporary employment hunger and its consequent emigrant haemorrhage is in part caused by aficionados of neo-Trevalyanism amongst a native home grown ruling class - in thraldom to their former colonial paymasters. Redcoats have been replaced by greenjackets. The Lisbon Treaty was the new act of union. And debt entrapment is the new imperialsm! Hunger strikes in modern Irish history are quite probably unconscious repetition compulsions of the The Great Starvation. Since partial independence, partitionist party mode has been identification with the aggressor. TDs who draw down on over generous expense accounts whilst having real estate portfolios in excess of 40 properties may be overcompensating for a Famine syndrome. Or they just be plaiin greedy? (How many bags of spuds do you need in the attic to overprovision?) And just as those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it, so too are those who prevailed in any given struggle in a position to revise it, ie the establishment. PS The potatoe blight didn't just affect Ireland, (or parts of Scotland, Wales or England). It also impacted the mainland!
"The past is in the past..." Is that the reason for the continuing displays of loyalist triumphalism every 12th? Is this why they cannot accept democratically elected Sinn Fein in government?
Mainland brits are more like the Irish than you ever care to know get it right torytory
The past is in the past...
Tory brit, and you claim to know the thinking of the contemporary Irish.




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