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Dublin Council sanctions partial demolition of 1916 buildings

Buildings which occupied 1916 leaders are to be partially demolished

CATHY HAYES,

IrishCentral.com Staff Writer

Published Thursday, January 6, 2011, 7:25 AM

Updated Thursday, January 6, 2011, 7:30 AM

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The corner of Moore Lane, Dublin where the buildings in question are located

Dublin City Council have sanctioned the demolition of parts of the buildings occupied by the leaders of the 1916 Rising on Moore Lane.

Number 17 and 18 Moore Lane, 19th century buildings, were declared unsafe by the council. They will be lowered in height in order to make the structures safe.

In 2007 four houses on Moore Street were designated as national monuments by the them minister for the environment Dick Roche. It is said that number 16 Moore Street is where the Irish rebel leaders decided to surrender to the British forces.

The two buildings on Moore Lane are not historical structures. However, the Save 16 Moore Street Committee say these buildings were also used by the leaders and should therefore be preserved.

These historical buildings back out on the Dublin north city center’s market street, Moore Street and are part of the Carlton site due to be developed by Dundrum Shopping Centre developer, Joe O’Reilly.

Patrick Cooney, spokesperson for the Save 16 Moore Street group spoke to the Irish Times. He said “We believe that this is the beginning of the death by a thousand cuts of Moore Street. The buildings demolished were the more decorative 19th century buildings attached to the historic 1916 terrace.”

Mr Cooney said that these building were occupied by those involved in the Rising including Michael Collins and Sean MacEntee.

He added “We have the frankly bizarre situation that entire chunks of the 1916 terrace, although physically attached to a national monument and of immense historical significance, are themselves not listed structures and are being demolished piecemeal at the behest of Dublin City Council.”

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FallsRNat | Jan 24, 2011, 03:12 PM EST

sell off the bricks @ €100 each, it might help reduce the irish deficit.

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WoundedKnee | Jan 09, 2011, 08:23 PM EST

It's worth remembering that Dublin is ruled by the parties who will take over the country from Fianna Fail after the next election. I don't think anyone who knows Dublin could say it is a well-run city. They'll make as big a mess of the country as they have made of the capital.

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WoundedKnee | Jan 07, 2011, 01:24 PM EST

George Dillon is quite right that there is a significant number of Irish people who hate the Irish language. This often manifessts itself in blaming the fact that Irish is taught in Irish schools for countless problems in the educational system. For example, you'll hear the Irish haters say "We should dump Irish so that children can learn other languages" or "It's much more important to learn Chinese than to learn Irish". These people look on themselves as worker bees, working in a big Chinese factory somewhere, not as free men and women with a culture and a heritage. They're spineless skunks. Of course it turns out that usually the Irish haters speak no other language than Diddle-Die English. It really is pathological for a people to hate any languyage, but it's beyond weird for them to hate the language of their ancestors. No other people in the world exhibit that particular perversion. Most Irish people are just a few generations away from Irish, yet still they hate it. But they lie to tourists, especially Irish-Americans, and claim that they love Irish language and culture. They're frauds. Speaking of frauds, say, sirpeter, how many years did you go to school in Ireland? Five or Six? And how many words of Irish do you know? Maybe a dozen? So your learned two words every year? Wow, now that's what I call a slow learner.

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sirpeter | Jan 07, 2011, 09:23 AM EST

Georgyboy..Do you ever give up with your bullsh*t. Lose your Woundedbolix account did ya? I think you were the one warned with your demented rant.Every part of Ireland is full of heritage,if we were to keep it all,we couldn't build anything.Ireland would be like a museum.We don't hate the Irish language.BUT!! Esatdigiwank is spot on the way its taught is just too much; 16 years of grammar, poetry, prose, everything except the obvious. barely 1 year devoted to ability to SPEAK it! I often wondered this myself.You never learn a language unless you can practice it till you are fluent. Then you can advance to poetry and prose.

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GeorgeDillon | Jan 06, 2011, 04:14 PM EST

antoman wrote "What if I go to my local Chinese and order a bag of a chips and a duck..and the woman at the counter is from Poland?" That's an easy one, antoman; the woman will be a Pole, but you'll still be a dope!

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antoman | Jan 06, 2011, 03:23 PM EST

What if I go to my local Chinese and order a bag of a chips and a duck..and the woman at the counter is from Poland?

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antoman | Jan 06, 2011, 03:19 PM EST

@georgyboy..here we go again.You leaving doomsday comments just because your hood ain't aryan caucasian no more.

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GeorgeDillon | Jan 06, 2011, 03:10 PM EST

seamusmoore: Weren't you warned off for threatening another poster? That was the shortest banning in history. So you're back with your ignorance and prejudice. This time please control your dirty tongue. Your kind of blind bigotry doesn't deserve any rational engagement from me, but for the benefit of the many intelligent readers out there, I will say that yes, language is central to nationality. The Irish language is central to Irish nationality. In fact, I can see no reason why Ireland should now exist as a (semi-)independent country. Ireland's patois of Bog English doesn't make Ireland a nation. The country is virtually a clone of England, even to the extent of hosting huge settlement from Pakistan and India. Ireland is broke culturally, economically and morally. It has nothing to offer the world.

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antoman | Jan 06, 2011, 02:55 PM EST

@seamusmoore..Samantha Mumba is that one from the film the Time Machine.Is her da Phil Lynott?

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seamusmoore | Jan 06, 2011, 02:29 PM EST

@antoman sometime back you posted that georgyboy and woundedbollix are one and the same, I wholeheartedly agree. Both seem to think that the Irish language is the defining feature of Irish culture. Note that neither posted a comment on the hurling story, that speaks volumes about the narrowness of their Oirish definition. A couple of months, I responded to one of these clowns that they probably think that Ted Kennedy is more Irish than Samantha Mumba, they were clueless as to who the lovely Samantha was, despite her lovely brogue.

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antoman | Jan 06, 2011, 01:56 PM EST

Thats right georgyboy.You go on thinking that us Irish are defined by the gaelic language,dancing at crossroads and castles that were blown up by Cromwell.An Irish expression befitting you might be 'step outside mate'.

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esatdigiwank | Jan 06, 2011, 12:48 PM EST

yet again , a ´poverty-developer' strikes. The flagship tenant of this Carlton 'site' will be the British retailer, John Lewis. How apt. But yes, we dislike Irish language - the way its taught is just too much; 16 years of grammar, poetry, prose, everything except the obvious. barely 1 year devoted to ability to SPEAK it! As for the halal shop - it going to be the Emerald Emirate in a few generations it seems..

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GeorgeDillon | Jan 06, 2011, 07:49 AM EST

I've been attacked on this site for expressing contempt about the current generation of Irish. But looking at this story, I see I have been too soft on the Irish. They are disgusting spineless slobs--they deserve all the misfortunes that are coming to them. No other people desecrates its own heritage like the Irish do. I 've pointed out elsewhere that most Irish hate the Irish language, Irish dancing and Irish traditional music. The Irish have knocked down countless buildings of historical importance and beauty. As to the Moore Street area (now being taken over by Africans and Chinese--they too care nothing about Ireland's history) there was even a column in the Dublin "Independent" newspaper a while back which advocated that these buildings should be knocked down to facilitate the opening of a halal butcher's shop for Muslim immigrants. There's no depths of servility and shame that the Irish won't sink to.

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