Good pagan that I am, I don't darken the door of my local church from one end of the year to the next. But Christmas is different.
You need the little bit of religion at Christmas time. There's something about going to church on Christmas morning that makes the day complete, even for us atheists and agnostics.
For my teenagers it's a glimpse into a weird world of ritual, of men in frocks and old folk on their knees mumbling strange incantations. At least that's how they see it. It's like stepping into Harry Potter, one of the teens told me last year.
But for me it's a nostalgic journey into the past, evoking deep memories from boyhood days in a small country town, memories of the way we were way back when everything was simpler and somehow more alive.
It all comes flooding back, the early start, the crunch of feet on the icy path, the crib in the nave of the church, the Happy Christmases in the church yard afterwards as neighbors shook hands, and then the quick walk home and opening the door to the smell of the rashers already spitting on the pan.
We used to do midnight Mass when I was a young teenager, but my mother disapproved because a few of the congregation always went straight from the pub to the church and then lacked the requisite reverence.
I can remember at one Christmas Eve midnight Mass the priest intoning the line about the Lamb of God and being answered by a chorus of Baa! Baa! from the boyos in the balcony. A few minutes later someone dropped a bottle of beer at the top of the balcony staircase and it slowly rattled its way down every step to the bottom. The priest paused the ceremony, turned around and glared, and you could have cut the silence with a knife.
We thought it was brilliant drama and wanted to go back the following year. But from then on it was Christmas morning Mass for our family.
Eventually, of course, we all left home and lost our religion. As students in the radical sixties and seventies, all that crazy stuff about the immaculate conception and transubstantiation was too ridiculous to be taken seriously.
But every Christmas, when we all gathered at home, we went to Christmas morning Mass like true believers because it was part of our growing up, part of what we were.
So for old time's sake -- and to give my own kids the experience -- I still insist on going to church on Christmas morning. We don't limit ourselves to the local Catholic Church. The Protestant Church of Ireland service is much better.
Instead of the muttering and moaning of an interminable mass, the Protestant service is all joyful hymns and carols, with a few prayers in between the singing. It's lively and uplifting.
Mind you, the kids this year say they want to go back to the Catholic Church this Christmas. The Mass is much more mysterious, they say. And you can get Communion!
Maybe we'll go back this year. Because the way the Catholic Church is going here, it may not be around much longer. If it's not gone altogether, it could well be reduced to a small rump by the time my kids have kids of their own to bring to church on Christmas morning.
The recent publication of the state commission of inquiry into the behavior of priests and bishops in the Dublin diocese since 1975 has been a tipping point as far as the Catholic Church in Ireland is concerned. The outcome has rocked the church, not just in Dublin but throughout the country.
It is the second inquiry of its kind here, since the accusations about clerical sexual abuse in Ireland started to snowball about 10 years ago. The first was the inquiry in Wexford and that was shocking.
But the scale and depravity and then the cover-up revealed by the Dublin inquiry is far worse. Dozens of priests were implicated, successive bishops knew what was happening, yet it went on and on.
The numerous abusing priests were shifted from one parish to another when complaints arose, leaving them free to abuse again.
The priority of the church was always to protect itself, even if it meant children continued to suffer.
In the Dublin diocese, which is so big that it has an archbishop at the top and auxiliary bishops as well, meetings between the bishops were held on a monthly basis, and it is hard to believe that the problem of abusing priests would not have been discussed.
The report makes clear that all the archbishops over the past 30 years or more knew what was going on, yet did nothing effective to stop it.
The present archbishop is in the clear because of the new procedures put in place in the recent past for protecting children, part of which means immediate reporting of accusations of abuse by priests to the police. That's a big change from previous decades when the church dealt with these matters itself, under canon law.
But the present archbishop's predecessor, still alive but now retired, is implicated in the cover-up, as are the auxiliary bishops who served under him and are now full bishops in other dioceses around Ireland. One of them has already resigned, after a trip to Rome to consult the Pope, and the other three are hanging on by their fingertips.
As I said, this is a tipping point for the Catholic Church in Ireland. It's a crisis that has shaken the Irish Catholic Church to its foundations and damaged its reputation and standing, perhaps permanently.
One indication of the sea change in attitude to the church is the way people here are now questioning everything. Is it right that the local bishop should be the patron of all the Catholic schools in the area if the church cannot be trusted with children? Should people be taking moral guidance from bishops when the culture in the church was corrupt?
The old deference is now completely gone. The Minister for Foreign Affairs Micheal Martin, for example, publicly criticized the failure of the Papal Nuncio to cooperate with the commission of inquiry and provide access to church files, something which the judge who ran the inquiry commented on. It's a long way from the days when government ministers here used to sink to their knees to kiss the bishop's ring.
This end to the deference and respect that used to be shown to the church is not confined to senior figures like government ministers. Ordinary people -- with the exception of the elderly faithful -- have been scathing in TV news interviews not only about how the church behaved in Dublin, but about the decades of orchestrated cover-up.
The cover-up by bishops is seen by most people as being almost as bad as the abuse perpetrated by so many priests because it left those priests free to abuse again.
The media has been full of calls for bishops to resign, an unprecedented change in attitudes here. And it could get worse for the church because the five-year inquiry in the Dublin diocese is unlikely to be the end of it.
Wexford and Dublin have been dealt with. But what about all the other dioceses in the country?
Given the culture of concealment in the Irish Catholic Church over the last few decades, the presumption must be that all the other dioceses will be just as rotten. There is no reason to think that Wexford and Dublin were aberrations and that everywhere else was okay.
Of course the problem with the Catholic Church goes far beyond these latest revelations in Ireland. It goes right back to the life denying, sex denying, guilt laden culture that permeates the whole institution, the lack of women priests, the lack of married male priests, the whole system that shoved young men into seminaries at a very young age.
With minimal contact with girls and their sexual development arrested in early boyhood, is it any wonder that so many of these priests went on to experiment sexually with children, to be child abusers?
You can suppress sex for so long, but eventually, as Freud correctly insists, it will always find a way out in some form, normal or perverted.
Our tragedy in Ireland was that the suppression by the Catholic Church of a normal healthy attitude to sex was worse here than elsewhere. And the consequences, inevitably, have been worse, a terrible price paid by so many abused children here.
That's a big subject and one we will explore in due course in this column. But it's not one for now, a few days before Christmas.
The Christian message in its pure original form is still one of great merit. And the story of the Nativity and the Baby Jesus is still one that connects with children at this time around the world. I can see it in the eyes of my own kids, even though they have been sent to a non-denominational school and educated to be free thinkers.
Like me, there will be a lot of people in Ireland going to other churches this Christmas. And many of those who go to a Catholic Church will be doing so with a heavy heart.
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.jacersisityourself | Feb 05, 2010, 07:09 PM EST
I haven’t dropped into this debate in a while, beg’n yr pard’n, but MAGHNUS declares that it has “been proved in Ireland that Catholics (at least the clergy, at any rate) are just a bunch of child molesting fags in robes”. I ask MAGHNUS to offer proof of this assertion. At least deenaww speaks a truth. Before MAGHNUS writes again, I invite Magnus Dei to be in his/her mind. Pat52rk asks John Spain for an answer. Pat won’t get one. John believes he’s unanswerable to anyone. He’s a fake pagan, ye see and... (worse!)... he’s a meed’ja fella! - may his God help him. Temerity need not worry about MAGHNUS. Thru’ postings the Mad MAG has already exposed him/her self to ridicule. But we don’t want ridicule on IC, do we?? *Respect all*
Temerity | Feb 03, 2010, 05:48 PM EST
MAGHNUS it seems to me your small minded bigotry reaches everyone.All over the world people associate Irish Culture with the Catholic Church( and Irish Catholic immigrants have been great ambassadors for Ireland) just where are you going to start may I ask?
deenaww | Jan 28, 2010, 09:35 AM EST
Christmas is Christian in name only. Most of the rituals the tree, presents, lights, are pagan. The Christian missionaries adapted already established holidays to make the transition to Christianity easier.
MAGHNUS | Jan 24, 2010, 07:48 AM EST
The Catholic Church is serving and protecting no one other than themselves...they should be thrown out with the rest of the garbage.
MAGHNUS | Jan 24, 2010, 07:47 AM EST
I disagree, jacer...considering that it has just been proved in Ireland that Catholics (at least the clergy, at any rate) are just a bunch of child molesting fags in robes, then it may very well be the best thing that the Catholics are removed from Ireland, and allow the people to decide what they want. People, meaning the original natives...not the illegal immigrant garbage that washed up on the beach and decided to invade the Island and its' people of their economy and culture.
pat52rk | Jan 21, 2010, 10:29 AM EST
So John, if your a pagen why do you celebrate christmas ?
jacersisityourself | Jan 09, 2010, 09:21 PM EST
RthrBHistCorr is right on. Here’s another bit of a rant, backing up RthrBHistCorr's thoughts, by a Vice Chancellor of a Catholic University in Australia: “From time immemorial, this world has been troubled by plagues. Just now, we are facing one of our largest and least appealing infestations - we are beset by atheists. Worse, they are not traditional atheists; no, the new hobby atheist is as brash, noisy and confident as a cheap electric kettle. They want everyone to know that they have not found God, and that no one else should. Their particular target seems to be Catholics. On the surface, this is odd, as there are plenty of other religious targets just waiting to be saved from a vengeful, non-existent deity. But the Catholic Church has two incomparable advantages as an object of the wrath of proselytising atheists. First, it is the ‘biggie’. Taking out the Catholics is the equivalent of nuking the Pentagon. Guerrilla bands of non-Catholic churches can be liquidated at leisure. Second, the Catholics have the undeniable advantage that they do still demonstrably believe in something. Attacking some of the more swinging Christian denominations might mean upsetting people who believe a good deal less than the average atheist.”
RthrBHistCorr | Jan 08, 2010, 02:31 PM EST
Also have to ask, why do Aethists have to continually justify themselve? There are a lot of things I don't believe in, my reaction is to just ignore it as I have enough on my plate. At the same time people who believe something that I don't well, God bless them, it's their right. I alway have a suspicion that these smug rants are done more to justify the writer to themselves than convince the reader.
RthrBHistCorr | Jan 08, 2010, 02:25 PM EST
What a self important, bigoted, self serving arrogant piece of writing. More confirmation that most Atheists are that way as they can't conceive of anything in the Universe more important than them.
jacersisityourself | Dec 29, 2009, 09:06 PM EST
I listened to this Turin story told by a religious tour guide standing on the steps of a church door during a visit to the city in 1999. The guide finished the story by saying that it was outside these very steps and church door that the donkey fell down and the whole incident took place. You can imagine the gasps of our tour crowd as we realised we were standing in the same piazza as the witnesses of the 14thC AD event were standing in... I forget the name of the church now but I’m sure someone knows it and has heard the same story. From that time, our guide said, Turin has been known as the City of the Holy Eucharist. The point in me relating these stories is to show why we Catholics believe we REALLY ARE eating the Flesh of Jesus and drinking His Blood when we receive Holy Communion under the appearance of bread and wine... just as He asked us to. We are blessed in humility to do so. Any non-believer can be blessed if they would bother their barmy to check out on religious miracles and see the light.
jacersisityourself | Dec 29, 2009, 09:04 PM EST
Near Turin itself, in the 14th century AD, two thieves broke into a village church and stole pieces of silverware, one of which contained the Holy Eucharist. The thieves loaded the stolen silverware into saddlebags on a donkey and set off. Arriving in Turin, the donkey suddenly fell down outside the door of another church, one of the saddlebags burst open and the Holy Host fell out on the ground. It immediately raised itself into the air above the houses and remained suspended in the air there (some reports say it was blazing rays of light). The donkey and two thieves were stunned into immovability during this time, lasting for several hours. The event was witnessed by people in the nearby church square (piazza) and because it was lasting a long time, and more people came to see for themselves as word spread around, the local Bishop was called for. When the Bishop arrived, he picked a chalice off the ground beside the burst saddlebag and in front of all the witnesses the Host lowered itself into the chalice. He brought it into the church then. An unexplainable event.
jacersisityourself | Dec 29, 2009, 09:00 PM EST
To John Spain and all other doubters’, may I point to one known miracle of Transubstantiation: In the year 700AD, during the Act of Consecration by a doubting priest during Mass (I think it was in Liniano or Lanciano, Italy) the Holy Host turned into a piece of a human heart and the wine into human blood. The sudden appearance of the piece of human heart and the blood were declared a miracle by the Church and retained in clear vessels for public display and adoration. In the 1970’s scientific tests showed that, 1300 years after the event, the piece of heart was a sliver of a real human heart, as fresh as if cut by a surgeon’s scalpel. The blood was found to be in five equally weighted globules of Type AB human blood, the same human blood type found in the Shroud of Turin. There is similar story told about another doubting priest in Sth America (I forget which country) who, after raising the circular Host, placing it on the altar, genuflecting below the altar table and bowing his head, and upon lifting himself up found a whole human bleeding heart in its place. As I remember that story told, the priest collapsed in total shock, the congregation rushed to his aid and saw the bleeding human heart for themselves. Two unexplainable events. One more... ok? (In fact there are some 150 known and unexplained miracles of the Holy Eucharist – thousands more claimed).
jacersisityourself | Dec 29, 2009, 08:55 PM EST
THAT’S THE POINT plasticpaddy, THERE IS NO EXPLANATION. I have to admit that there is nothing logical about my faith in Jesus or my practice of belief in Him through Roman Catholicism. All I do know is that there is something extra-ordinary about Jesus (raised some people, including Himself from the dead, for example.) Now, I hafta say straight off, I’m very much into scientific developments, physics and chemistry etc., so it’s no easy thing for me to say I’ve surrendered to the power of an Almighty and that I believe in what plasticpaddy and other non-believers disrespectfully call mumbo jumbo. Hopefully p’paddy and others will see, THERE IS NO EXPLANATION! I would go so far as to say that if it were not for the multitude of UNEXPLAINED miracles happening through the Roman Catholic Church that I could also have discarded such faith as I have. In my next posts, at risk of boredom for some, I’ll elaborate a little...
vincentruane | Dec 26, 2009, 03:03 PM EST
Plasticpaddy! Well I'm thrilled to read that you actually know what the word logic means? Anyway since you by your own admittance are a lost soul, I challenge you with two questions.How many prophecies in the Bible have come true? And since so many have, what are the mathematical possibilities of so many of them coming true? The answers to these two questions should amaze even you. When you find out, which you can by studying books wrote by people who have spent over forty years of their lives studying the Bible, it will be easy for you to see by your acclaimed love of reasoning that it is the altar of God your life should be dedicated to, not the bloody altar of communism. Merry Christmas Paddy. Prepare for the coming worldwide warning from God at Garabandal.
plasticpaddy | Dec 25, 2009, 11:32 AM EST
Can you explain them Vincent, and don't give me any mumbo jumbo explanations, something logical and reasoned please.
vincentruane | Dec 23, 2009, 08:49 PM EST
St. Matthew:"Thou art Peter;and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." These are the words of Jesus and Jesus words will always have credibility! If Spain wants to attack and belittle the Catholic Church, let him study the true life story of St. Padre Pio and then explain his miracles and life from the point of his supposedly enlightened thinking.
barneyjo | Dec 23, 2009, 07:14 PM EST
And yes.......the institutional church has lost all credibility in the eyes of everyone; even Pagans!!
barneyjo | Dec 23, 2009, 07:08 PM EST
And Rebelforce, does the parable of the prodigal son ring a bell with you by any chance?
barneyjo | Dec 23, 2009, 07:03 PM EST
Rebelforce.If you truly mean all you have said in your last post, I wonder do you actually realise just how far from God you really are?
Rebelforce | Dec 23, 2009, 04:56 PM EST
That's typical of John Spain. He's one of those selfish, annoying people who suddenly come out of the woodwork and turn up at Church on Christmas because.....well, it's "the place to be". Meanwhile, as his pompous, fat tush is taking up precious pew space, a regular parishioner is probably left standing at the back of the church because they can't get a seat. Nice. Do everybody a favor John, if you don't believe----stay home and pay homage to your "sun god" or "earth mother" or whatever it is you pagans worship. Stay out of the Catholic church. They may say they want you back, but remember, they HAVE to say stuff like that. Meanwhile, I'm willing to bet good money the Catholic church in Ireland will still be around long after you've gasped your last breath.
jacersisityourself | Dec 23, 2009, 04:42 PM EST
John Spain’s article is deliberately seasonal – I trust he reads the posts I made below. I can understand his dismissive attitude about Mass and religion etc because I went through a phase of that. I would ask John, when he brings his children to (for him) a seasonal Christmas Mass, to recognise the importance of it to the Catholics beside him in the church and respect it so. But here’s a really good bit of news for John and others like him – a saintly nun of Saxony in Middle Ages, St.Mechtilde (Matilda, modern day), was blessed by Jesus Christ with revelations, one of which says “Receive it as a most certain truth, that if anyone hears Mass devoutly and fervently, I will send... for consolation and defence at the hour of death, as many of the glorious spirits who stand around My throne as have heard Masses with devotion”. So maybe, just maybe, John and his family will have some fervent devotion at Mass on Christmas Day, if even only for that one Mass on that special day.
jacersisityourself | Dec 23, 2009, 03:53 PM EST
(Cont’d) Our main ceremony is the Holy Mass through which we - 1. Acknowledge God and His Greatness; 2. Before the altar of God and in front of our fellow-Mass attendants, confess aloud that we have sinned, ask forgiveness of God and receive general absolution through the prayer and blessing of an anointed priest; 3. Glorify God aloud; 4. Listen to readings from both the Old and New Testaments – (the Word of God): 4. Profess aloud what we believe as Christians in God and in a catholic or universal church; 5. Offer bread & wine to God and ask Him to accept them as our sacrifice as Christ did at the Last Supper in atonement for our sins; 6. Pray for the living people in the world; 7. Bow our heads in silent respect of a miracle happening before as the priest asks God on our behalf to consecrate the bread and wine to be transubstantiated into the Body and Blood of Christ; 8. Pray for the deceased people of the world; 9. Pray aloud together as a Christian community as our Lord taught us to in The Lord’s Prayer; 10. Commune with God in Holy Communion by receiving into our mortal bodies the eternally living Body and Blood of Christ; 10. Pray for peace for ourselves, our families and others in the whole world. 11. Receive the Blessing of God through the prayers of the priest. NOT ONE OF THESE parts of the Mass is founded in pagan rituals. Our faith and practice of it is based solely in, and through Jesus Christ, not pagan rituals.
jacersisityourself | Dec 23, 2009, 03:48 PM EST
How could Portia be so naive as to declare all RC ceremonies to be based on pagan rituals? The RC’s main ceremonies are based around seven Sacraments instituted by Jesus Christ at various stages during His life on earth - 1. Baptism - as He was baptised by John in the River Jordan; 2. Confession - as He forgave the repentant thief alongside Him on the Cross; 3. Holy Communion – as he asked us to ‘Eat (His) Flesh and drink (His) Blood in memory of Him at the Last Supper; 4. Marriage – as He blessed the marriage at Capernaum with his first-known Miracle of changing water into wine; 5. Sacrament of Sick or Dying people – as He blessed and cured people numerous times in His life or raised them from the dead (e.g. Lazarus); 6. Confirmation – whereby He anointed his followers and Apostles with confirmation of their belief in Him through the wisdom of the Holy Spirit; 7. Holy Orders (Priesthood) – whereby he appointed Peter as His first leader (Pope) of his Church and his Apostles as priests to go spread His message to Love God and Love one’s Neighbour to all mankind. NOT ONE OF THESE is based on pagan rituals. (More...)
jacersisityourself | Dec 23, 2009, 03:48 PM EST
Please Portia, you’re a nice person – and so does John Spain seem to be – but please don’t spread misunderstandings. Please read my posts following in reply to yours which hopefully set out exactly what we Catholics do and believe in through our ceremonies, all of which are dedicated to acknowledging Christ as our Saviour and God as the Supreme Being, none of which is based on pagan ritual. No matter what you or others say, the gift of faith is one neither you nor anybody else can take away from me and a billion others with rubbishing comments. I invite you instead to join us in our rewarding belief, or rediscover that belief if you’ve discarded it. My prayer is - May the Peace and Joy of Christ be with you and everyone on IrishCentral over the festive period and, especially, forever.
niebling1 | Dec 23, 2009, 10:48 AM EST
Amazing Grace Welcome home
Portia777 | Dec 23, 2009, 09:56 AM EST
The Roman Catholic ceremonies are all based on pagan rituals. Their churches built on ancient Pagan ritual sites- where there were altars- al Tara. etc. The Roman church forced the native Ayrish to come under the rule of Rome by using all kinds of torture, murder, creating fear, guilt tripping, lying about a better world in the hereafter, lying about suffering being good for the soul- so the priests etc could get away with abusing children and adults alike. It was a great scam while it lasted- just like any other religious cult- its days are over.
alfrecht | Dec 23, 2009, 09:40 AM EST
In fairness, John, you're not a pagan in Ireland; there are lots of pagans in Ireland, they practice various forms of religion that have been described under the pagan moniker deliberately and self-consciously for the past several decades. Nearly all of these types of religion are sex-positive, and none would have stood for the type of abuse, nor its concealment, which the Catholic Church in Ireland stood for and abetted on an institutional basis. What you are is a non-practicing Christian, or a skeptic or vocal critic. I don't know that I'd say you're an atheist or agnostic, as those terms are not synonymous with skepticism, and they are most certainly NOT synonymous with paganism or being pagan. However, given that you did get your education in religious matters from Catholics in Ireland, it's no surprise that you make this (all too common) mistake.
mandokeith | Dec 23, 2009, 09:35 AM EST
John, At Christmastime, or any other time it is not about ceremony, nor is it about all the foolish and sinful people in the churches. It is about God connecting with man by sending His son to atone for our great separation. On the last day it will not matter what group you affiliated with, or rejected. Don't let the flawed messengers affect the message of Christ's love and sacrifice. He came to live that perfect life that we cannot live, and He lives to bring us to Himself.....
chesapeake | Dec 23, 2009, 09:18 AM EST
The pagan is hedging his bets. I am a Catholic; but not practicing on a regular basis. The Episcopal Church serves us well; but I still miss the Roman Catholic ritual; and I am no longer that familiar with the ceremony. An Irish friend from Chicago summed it up for me..."once a Roman Catholic, always a Roman Catholic". He's right.