Woman refused right to die by assisted suicide by Irish court
Multiple Sclerosis sufferer loses bid to end her life with aid of partner
Published Thursday, January 10, 2013, 7:28 AM
Updated Thursday, January 10, 2013, 9:09 AM
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Stiofain | Jan 12, 2013, 11:01 PM EST
Why can't people mind their own business.Shoving their own personal beliefs down other peoples throat! If a terminal illness,I'm going to die...that's what terminal means.I don't want to drag out for me or for my loved ones.So,I guess I'll have to use a 9mm before I have to, because some self absorbed religious nut thinks they what's best for me and my family. Hope,they rot in the hell they believe in!
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Happyhippo | Jan 12, 2013, 04:32 PM EST
It been known for a long time that when some terminaly ill patents request with their medical adviser that their medication be reduced gradually so as to induce coma and therefore shorten the period when death accurs,is not seen as assisting in suicide.
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Bocktherobber | Jan 11, 2013, 09:49 PM EST
Gearoid4. There is no Divisional Court in Ireland. You must be thinking of England. There is no law in Ireland to prevent anyone from killing themselves.
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merefalow | Jan 11, 2013, 07:07 PM EST
this assisted suicide and fast racking is very worrying,i went into casualty for aspirins and they stuck a fast track notice on me,i barely escaped.
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Gearoid4 | Jan 11, 2013, 04:19 PM EST
The 3 judge Divisional Court has made the right decision concerning a subject that is very harrowing in terms of the physical pain suffered by patients and and the mental anguish of their relatives and friends. The wider implications of legally letting someone suffering from intense pain kill themselves directly by their own hands or with the help of others, would introduce a precedent that would be too awful to contemplate. Initially it looks compassionate on a superficial level but the nihilism and despair at the heart of such an ideology devalues the worth of people. It only views them in utilitarian and materialistic terms and fails to take account of their inherent spiritual value and integrity. It would undermine the whole area of medical treatment for patients with life-threatening or very serious illnesses/conditions by fatally compromising the ethics of the medical profession. It will also make patients fearful in respect to the attitudes that might greet them in the hospital wards.
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Gearoid4 | Jan 11, 2013, 04:15 PM EST
The 3 judge Divisional Court has made the right decision concerning a subject that very harrowing in terms of the physical pain suffered by patients and and the mental anguish of their relatives and friends. The wider implications of legally letting someone suffering from intense pain kill themselves directly by their own hands or with the help of others, would introduce a precedent that would be too awful to contemplate. Initially it looks compassionate on a superficial level but the nihilism and despair at the heart of such ideology devalues the worth of people who happen to suffer from very serious illnesses/diseases. It only views them in utilitarian and materialistic terms and fails to take account of their inherent spiritual value and integrity.
It would undermine the whole area of medical treatment for patients with life-threatening or very serious illnesses/conditions by fatally compromising the ethics of the medical profession. It will also make patients fearful in respect to the attitudes that might greet them in the hospital wards.
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jamieLM | Jan 11, 2013, 09:42 AM EST
It's a lot easier to judge pain and suffering when it's someone else who is enduring it. There are people who are in excruciating pain 24/7 (in spite of pain meds)to the extent that the quality of their life is Zero. They have no life outside of their pain and suffering. As an RN, I've seen people with ALS, cancer, constant seizures, aggressive forms of CF and MS...very easy for people who suffer relatively mild aches and pains to make judgments about those who have no life except severe pain and suffering and who are totally dependent on others 24/7 for their care.
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Silling | Jan 11, 2013, 01:11 AM EST
if Marie Fleming went to Galway those doctors who killed the Indian lady might help!
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Bocktherobber | Jan 10, 2013, 08:31 PM EST
Cynicus -- Under Irish law, everyone is entitled to end their own life if they choose to do so. Unlimited suicide, as you describe it, is already a right in our law. This is a case involving a woman who is too restricted in movement to end the hell she is experiencing. Consequently, she will die in misery and indignity instead of at a time and place of her own choosing as we would all wish for ourselves.
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Pittsburghkid | Jan 10, 2013, 07:23 PM EST
Life is more important then pain. Pain is not a reason
to take your own life. Everyday some one suffers
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Portia_O'Neill | Jan 10, 2013, 06:53 PM EST
Of course no one will ever know how Justice Kearns plans to manage his pain as he gets closer to death. It's all very well to talk about death in the abstract when sitting on the bench and another matter when one is actively dying.
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Smyrnian | Jan 10, 2013, 06:15 PM EST
Cynicus - if you can't see WKnee's point you are beyond rehab. In the one case (abortion) the person being killed has no choice (decided by others) and in the other case a person is deciding for himself/herself. Get it?
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stanJames | Jan 10, 2013, 03:45 PM EST
One of the things I'm surpised that the VAT in rome hasnt tried to outlaw aspirin - which OD can kill your kidneys and liver
Time to be free of the vat of rome, whose idea of protecting life is to UNexcommunicate bishop Williamson a holocaust denier in 2009
Proving once again that "protecting life is BS", theonly thing he wants to protect is his own power over others.
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cynicus | Jan 10, 2013, 03:32 PM EST
I think of all those persons who suffered in the same way, and who bore their tragic pain and suffering with fortitude and dignity, and with courage. WoundedKnee seems to advocate unlimited suicide as a 'right' - yet says s/he is 'pro-life!' I suppose it's 'easy to sleep on another man's wound,' as the old Irish proverb states.
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