Why we need to re-imagine Ireland

RE-IMAGINE IRELAND - or even this brilliant Website, free of ridiculously immature,xenophobic and Humour-less commenters like @11.11 below who haven't the wit, or who are too filled with hate,to realise when their chain has been rattled and they have been well and truly 'hooked'. = Oh! Bliss! Our sweet little shamrocky island love-nest, would become a real Heaven on Earth.

Towntroll is boiling with envy over the genetically proven axiom that the Irish are one of the most homogenous and long settled people in the Europe(a fact recognized by english writers and historians even before it was proven by science). No serious scientists dispute a strong neolithic continuity (some even go so far as to assert a paleolithic continuity) which references the era in which these magnificent monuments were constructed. Professor Steve Jones has an excellent website on the indigenous continuity in these islands - no phony Whitehall contrived identity needed. I believe the original, and correct, term your looking for towntroll is little englander. Unlike the terror state, Irish nationalism is not based upon an imperial supremacy cult - the sad truth being that most british "heroes" (Churchill in particular) have been disgusting racial supremacists (many of the psychopaths who advocated the extermination of women and children). It's telling how towntroll degrades and minimizes what are universally considered some of the most archaelogically significant sites in the world(pre-dating the great pyramid of Egypt) - typical anglo cultural vulgarity.

Molliepmac: Hello. You don't seem to know much about manners or Ireland, - Imagine beginning your Comment with an insult --then complaining about the Road on the grounds that it is going the wrong way and so it won’t make any money! --- My point is that we do not know who built these things as it could have been anybody who has passed through this little island. My fancy is the Milesians the Spanish occupiers of that place who might have just been scouting a site for a Toll Plaza or the Fir Bolg who might have come from Egypt to practice pyramid-making before deciding that round ones don't look so good and going home to throw up a few nice square ones. Some of those bones scattered around - clogging up the nice Diggers - are probably the slave building labourers! ---My opinion is: that who-ever was responsible lived and did what they wanted to in their own 'country' during the time they lived there. --- We are entitled to do the same! None of us can claim to be their descendants, as we do not know who they were, but we’re only Subsequent Occupiers of the same little patch of ground on this great muckball spinning through the universe. Anyway, Molly, I don't much like the idea - even in 5000 years time - that some little irelander will be 'protecting' my grave by charging some dupes a couple of Euro (or Shekels ,as it will be by then) to traipse in and out of it! -- OK? Will that do you for now? - For Ra’s sake,lighten up! – re-Imagine Ireland as Patricia asks, and please mind your manners. I imagine you might!

Towngate You don’t seem to know much about Ireland. Newgrange Knowth and Dowth are part of a massive ritual complex dating back over 5000 years which contains the largest concentration of megalithic art in Europe. The builders would be amazed to see their work still preserved and admired. Now if you are concerned about desecration then look no further than the M3 motorway. Built across the Tara complex and over the burial grounds of Collierstown and Ardsallagh - the bodies dug up and stored in bins. All for a toll road owned by Spain and taxpayers saddled with a traffic guarantee which cannot be met because the road is in the wrong place - to the west of Tara it would also serve the town of Trim and there would be some chance the road would pay its way.

RATTLE YOUR CAGE as much as you want,stutter,rant and foam at the mouth,too,but intelligent people know the "Little Irelander" mindset - (One pure 'irish' race since the dawn of time) is patently ridiculous! Whichever of the many immigrant Invaders of the island built 'newgrange',possibly as a grave for an important leader or whatever, will not be pleased by the Desecration now taking place whereby it is left open to the weather,and rubbernecking tourists drag their muddy feet in and out and,of course, need a decent road to get them there! To build a New Road is no more a Sacrilege than what has been done to expose the Tomb - which was covered in earth for a good reason! ... So nobody could see it!

Re second sentence of post at 10:01 - I was obviously referring to Stonehenge and the ancient roadway.

Towntroll's celebratory triumphalism regarding the theft imposed upon Irish taxpayers to bail out bank creditors (primarily foreign) is truly british in character. One wonders if he was this celebratory when the failed british terror state was bailed out by the IMF in 1976 (despite its centuries long theft of other nations).

A303 didn't require the destruction of any contiguous archaelogical sites you dolt. It also wasn't built by your anglo ancestors (who were still in that swamp in Germany at the time) but by neolithic people genetically/ethnically similar to the Irish who constructed sites such as Newgrange and Tara (as you may recall from Spenser and Bede, you ancestors weren't even literate before being taught by had to be taught by the Irish). British architecture began by mimicking Italian renaissance architecture which it was able to improve on through massive theft of worldwide resources (although I personally do not believe it produced anything comparable to second empire French architecture). The techniques and building materials are too costly for modern construction in any part of the world.

THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING (or not!) in Ireland, the bramble bushes, Grass and clods of Shamerock will reclaim the highway before long and only the stupid sheep and dopey donkeys who didn't manage to escape, may graze away until the cows come home!............... For Anglophile readers expressing an interest in its truly ancient archeology, Stonehenge,and its Visitor Centre is already magnificently served by the main A303 Highway which runs nearby and is probably an updated development of part of the ancient highway they used when transporting the stunning Blue Stones all the way from Wales to Wiltshire.. Indeed, the British are great Builders, as anyone in Dublin and Cork and many other towns and cities can testify!

yeah - what was I thinking, Towntroll. Since there were ancient road to Tara, what's the problem with building modern concrete superhighways which destroy historical parts of the site as well as its serenity? Why not put a superhighway straight through Stonehenge?

WAS THERE NEVER a road to Tara before? How did our hallowed ancesters get there? ... maybe they landed in Celticopters or something ...

Good points on fiana failure WoundedKnee. As referenced by Taraskryne, what they allowed to happen to one of the most ancient and sacred world landmarks is reflective of their degenerate anglo materialist outlook in creating industrial estate Ireland.

seamusmac: So you don't think the banshee and leprechaun are parts of Irish mythology? What countries do they come from, then? Paraguay? Papua New Guinea? Pitcairn Island?

All Saints Day follows Halloween. All Souls Day is the next day

A transparent attempt by privileged Irish and Irish Americans to sell the banshee, leprechaun and Irish folklore abroad etc., much like this paper, to bolster a failed capitalist economy which sucked the wealth out of Ireland and now must go searching for a fresh victim.