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Why De Valera got a bum rap on being pro-Nazi because of U.S Ambassador

U.S, Envoy to Ireland David Gray communed with ghosts, hated De Valera


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However, Gray did eventually persuade them to ask for the removal of Axis diplomats from Dublin. The OSS and British Intelligence were satisfied with Irish security, but went along somewhat reluctantly with Gray’s political ploy.

De Valera’s refusal was used in the Allied press to depict him as unsympathetic to the Allied cause. The whole thing was just a political stunt.

After the success of the D-Day landings, Marlin returned to the United States, and the OSS decided to station Edward Lawler in Dublin as liaison with Irish Intelligence.

“We received 100% co-operation from the Irish authorities,” Lawler wrote to me. “The cooperation and information we received from the Irish was every bit as extensive and helpful as it would have been if Ireland had been a  full partner with us in the war effort.”

Thus all of the OSS agents in Ireland believed the Irish were fully cooperative with the Allies, but Gray claimed he had “better sources of information.”   In his memoir, he argued that de Valera and Walshe secretly schemed for a German victory in the hope that Hitler would end partition.

Of course, he did have different sources.  A strong believer in spiritualism, Gray was getting advice from supposed ghosts and he was passing this information on to the White House.

Shortly after arriving in Dublin, he wrote to Roosevelt about “the memories and the ghosts that are here” in his official residence in Phoenix Park, where the late British Prime Minister Arthur Balfour had lived as Chief Secretary of Ireland in the 1880s.  Balfour had engaged in séances with the writing medium Geraldine Cummins, would go into a kind of trance and write out messages from supposed ghosts.  She began holding séances in the residence for Gray.

On November 8, 1941 Balfour’s ghost supposedly warned Gray about Joe Walshe. “He, from what I can see, is hand and glove with the German Minister,” the message read. “The organization of Fifth Columnists in this country is now complete.” Walshe, the message added, “is the leading
Quisling.”

At a further séance on December 2, 1941 Cummins produced a supposed message from the late President Theodore Roosevelt. “I want to tell you,” he supposedly wrote, “that I think Franklin will hold the Japs for a while; at any rate from our country’s point of view. I see no immediate Armageddon for young America, possibly not at all.”

This was the Tuesday before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, but Gray’s conviction that he was in touch with those ghosts was not shaken. “Four days after this communication,” Gray wrote to President Roosevelt, “the Japs attacked Pearl Harbor. They had T.R. fooled. I suspect that if these communications come through pretty much as given our friends on the other side don’t know very much more than they did on this side.”


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Gee Dano you have just shave a few inches from your Giant.
Seano - It was the 'moral fortitude' I questioned...he had it in bucketloads...but I agree he was wrong on many issues, including Ireland.
No more than you could Dano as usual you did not read my post and had your usual knee jerk reaction ""when dealing with Ireland" are so anti Irish you fail to comprehend a simple sentence.
Seano – Churchill was a giant of the 20th century, rightly admired for his courage and fortitude in standing up to the Nazi menace…could you have inspired a nation in 1940? I very much doubt it.
Pillob04, the Swiss had the decourm not to snivel over to the German ambassador's residence to express condolences on behalf of the Irish people on the death of Hitler.
Churchill was a blatant liar when dealing with the Ireland. The man had no moral fortitude.
"Didn't Churchhill offer Devalera an end to partition if Ireland came in on the side of the Allies?" No, he didn't. He considered it and even alluded up to a point but no specific offer was ever made. it wasn't within his power to deliver on such a promise anyway.
RebelForce, NO Churchill could not. Churchill was the creator of the English Terror forces in Ireland during the War for Independence. Churchill was a very evil man.
I will always support Dev on the issue of keeping Ireland out of WW2. No different from Switzerland. Had the Irish gone into the war they would have simply been cannon fodder AGAIN for the English. Dev was right! He cooperated with the allies but was able to keep Ireland out of the war.
He was pro-Roman Catholic Church which is even worse than being Pro-Nazi. Ireland is still paying for Vatican occupation. It was a shame Dev was not executed along with the rest of them.
A load of humus about nothing.
ALSO, Alan Rickman really does look like him!
I'm a little confused (or may be a lot). Not that I believe it or don't, but how was he an English spy? Meaning, who did he spy on? If he agreed, rightly or wrongly, on the partition, who was he spying on? I can understand how some people call him a traitor but I don't get a spy. Also, where does Israel come into it?
dev england greatest spy he's a much honored fella in israel. The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat (70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves at this time). From 1641 to 1652, over 500,000 Irish were killed by the English and over 300,000 were sold as slaves.
It seems it a little hard to criticize DeValera when we let a flake be the US ambassador so close to the war for so long. Not having to side with England and not having Germans invade to use Ireland as a base, there has to be more to the story.




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