Vatican orders rebel Irish cleric to ‘pray and reflect’ at monastery retreat

The Irish Times is an incurable petit-bourgeois quality broadsheet written by and for a largely southern business Protestant ascendency, and their cafeteria Catholic political groupies in Government. Their conspicuous fawning last year for the visiting British monarch was in stark contrast to their virtual journalistic lynching later in the year of Ulster/Northern Ireland's Deputy First Minister (DFM) Presidential candidate, a shamefully embarrasing episode which estranged many of us who had been reading it for longer than we care to admit. Although admittedly good on news ordinary, they invariably exhibit a manifest objectivity deficit in matters of politics proper and religion regular. As a Roman Catholic priest of my acquaintence once said: "If you want real spirituality, go to a monastery. We're just the Civil Service of the Church." I wonder do Papa Benny and the Cardinals realise that in monasticising Flannery, they may be only exacerbating his commendable radicalism. All orthodoxies suck. Become a Gnostic.

Irishpjk -- The work of satin, you say? So that's why they call them men of cloth!

irishpjk |said 2012, 04:01 PM EDT There is no such thing as half catholic, There was also no such thing as half nazi in germany, or half commie under Stalin etc.........those paranoid psychotics didnt hesitate to kill anyone who wasnt totally in accord with their wishes also.................Thank you for helping to explain what a top down tyranny the vatican has becum. As it moves ever extremist. The second holy Inquisition is all but here..............Madness prevails in the Church of Jesus. Wonder what HE is going to do to the hierarchy and the Pope...........Maybe a trap door to hell in front of the pearly gates

I wonder how many known pedo priests were given such a treatment like this. Actually their "repentance" treatment was to be sent to a new location where unknown, they continued their crimes.................................. While keeping the collection plate full. All should join in making the 3rd largest church in America the 1st or second largest - the church of EX CATHOLICS......................... Thank God that the church cannot do what CDF did in the past - the rack, dungeons and burnings at the stake........................... Which btw also happened to good priests during the inquisition. they, like Jews etc, were treated like heretics / apostates - similar to the Islam of today.

For many years I was very troubled by the direction that the Catholic Church was headed for. It was very difficult but I finally decided to leave the Church. At first I felt like a castaway from my family and all my relatives and Catholic friends. So much of my time was spent defending my decision. Years later, I am at peace and rarely speak out against the Church. It is very frustrating when you are a member of something that doesn't meet your expectations.

Maybe the CDF would like to water board Flannery or burn him at the stake as they use to do before they changed their name from "The inquisition" to "CDF".They want him to go into "retreat" and read the CDF's take on the Catholic religion.The Chinese under Mao did the same except his bible was the "little red book".Catechisms and little red books are one and the same thing mind control documents.

Even here in San Antonio we have have women Pastoral Associates, DRE's, Lectors even involved in Parish Councils and extraordinary ministers of Holy Communion like in so many areas of this country. Ireland is far behind in all of that and needs to catch up with the rest of the English Speaking world.

During the Papacy of Pope John Paul II, I heard somewhere that there will be 2 more popes, after him. If that is true, there is now one more to come, before the Catholic Church undergoes some radical transformation. Can anybody please tell me the source of this prediction? Irishpjk, Do you really believe that someone who can not accept everything the Church teaches, such as Matthew 5:28, and the guilt ridden teachings of St. Augustine, has no chance for salvation?? If so, you take after the fanatical fundamentalists, who tolerate no deviation, from the way they interpret the Bible.

Time for the priests to revolt and dispose the current pope who is nothing more than a reactionary moron.

Time for the priests to revolt of dispose the current pope who is nothing more than a reactionary moron.

Fight priests fight! Don't cower like sheep amongst the wolf. Do your reflecting at night when sleeping, but during daylight rebel against the yoke of Machiavellian papistry. Free your Church, free your country, free the world from that old beady eyed Christian pretender. God has chosen you for the Catholic Reformation. The time is now! Up the Father Flannery!

Like my dear Aunt Rose use to say:"Jesus, Mary and Joseph!"

What a great idea Caoimhin1937!!! Because most of us who were raised "Catholic" realize what a pool of homophobia and pervertedness exist at the door of Rome. Another church is an excellent idea. Most people will take it much more seriously than they do the german pedo-protector. His words are taken so seriously by so much of the world now! LOL!! What did he say on Easter??? Besides trying to stay awake???? And before you give me your words about the church...and if you don't like it...go somewhere else. I try to picture what you might. The pope, cardinals, bishops and priests being welcomed at the gates of heaven with the words..."well done good and faithful servants...protecting the molesters and letting the abused suffer even more!!" Do you even know Caoimhin1937 how messed up your thought process is??? Please pray hard to God. You and your band of merry molesters will need it big time!!!!

Don't be too concerned about it. He has a roof over his head, clothes on his back, bread on his plate (if not fasting which is part of religious life) and time out for prayer and reflection. Oh yes, and access to Canon Law stuctured towards clergy. It's more than most of have today on all accounts.

There is no such thing as half catholic, you are or you are not. To all of you who are sickened by the catholic faith why not find one you like and join there. Or could it be deep down you know the true faith is found in the Catholic Church and you are afraid of going to hell. If that is the case then you need to get you head straight and support the true faith. If you were successful in changing it then you would bring the rest of us to hell with you, sounds like satin at work. By the way that priest is not a rebel he is a traitor, I hope prayer and a retreat can cure him but I do not hold out much hope for him.