Undocumented still standing after broken dreams

RE: Maloney: I just want all to know that he has some kind of delusion that I "sponsor" illegal immigrants. First of all, I merely deeply support the notion of a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants and empathize with the poor who feel that they have no other choice (I am not so much talking about illegal Irish immigrants, as they are not without the basics. I am talking about the poor of Central and South America who truly suffer from a lack of basic needs being met.) Second, I don't have a clue what he means by "sponser". I can only guess that he figures that since I actively support the notion of the 11 or more million illegals getting a path to citizenship and do not want them deported, I have something to do with their being here, which I do not in any way whatsoever.

"All Irish immigrants legal and illegal. Go back to Ireland, and fight for your country! Take it back from the EU and the greedy Irish traitors who are destroying Irish culture." Sully1167, I quoted your entire post because I think it captures exactly what should Irish-Americans' attitudes be to new Irish immigrants. These people are abandoning their country and opening it up to settlement by foreigners. But unlike the Irish who fled persecution and ethnic cleansing in the 17th thru 19th centuries, there is no English boot kicking them out of their ancient homeland. Instead we have the attitude articulated by a jerk like Dublin Guy below, who defends the crazy Wide Open Door policies of the Dublin government, policies which under Fianna Fail created a situation where every week thousands of Irish were leaving thru Departures at Dublin Airport while at the same time thousands of Africans, Pakistanis, Poles, Chinese etc. were walking thru Arrivals to begin their settlement of Ireland. Why the hell should we sympathize with cowardly beggars like Dublin Guy, when they give over their country to foreigners and then want a piece of ours? Dublin Guy==Dublin Dope.

You would rather take care of illegals than take care of the Americans in need marthaanna. You are not a patriot, you are a traitor. You are the heartless one refusing to take care of real Americans in need. You are the one who sponsers illegals, go on admit the truth.

Okay MarhaAnne, I do feel sorry for the illegals as well. They are forced to leave their own countries because of poverty and lack of work. But seriously, where does it stop? There was a news program that interviewed people in a small Mexican city and 90% of them wanted to come to the U.S.? We cannot take in all the poor of the world! Our economy is shot at this point. And if you feel bad for the poor illegals that are here, what do you feel for the poor schlep that is waiting to do it legally? And you know, if we give amnesty to the illegals here now, more will come. We gave amnesty in the 80's and said...this is it...not ever again. But now it is up again! And, no, illegals do not get welfare and housing but they have children here that are citizens who get welfare and food stamps and subsidized housing and education and medical and on and on. And I would like you to come to some schools in Los Angeles or San Diego where 90% of the students in a class don't speak fluent English. You want you child educated in that school? Or have you been to an emergency room lately, I waited over 9 hours for my son to get stitches. Or you want to live in a neighborhood where the houses have multiple families living in them or you want your son/husband to find a job in construction or roofing or painting or landscaping and make a decent wage?? Okay, tell me again how you want amnesty for the 20 million illegals here. If there was no work and no place they could live, they would go home and maybe force their governments to take care of their own.

I have never minded the illegal immigrants here in NYC. I feel sorry for them for having to leave their countries of origin where they are almost always the ones who have been used and abused, ignored and prevented from getting a leg up. The Mayor of New York City, Michael Bloomberg, said in one speech recently that the illegal immigrants add the the economy and create jobs. Sure, I wouldn't bring an illegal immigrant here, but I do not condemn them for coming. All across the U.S. the Catholic Church's religious have done much to provide needed assistance to illegal immigrants. But the posters here seem to think they don't deserve that assistance. Nuns, brothers and priests provide food, clothing and medical care for the ones who cannot obtain them. I have personally met some of them and think that they are great. It is a fallacy that we cannot let them become legal. (I am speaking only about the ones who are here.) Anyway, it is a fallacy to think that we are going to deport over 11 million illegal immigrants. Head in the sand. For those of you, which, sadly, seems to be most of the posters, who want all the illegals deported: I think you are heartless. Please, I don't want to hear the lies and distortions that they cost us more than they give.

In response to george dillon, you say the Irish immigration laws are sloppy & lazy, haha look at your own laws before you start beating down others, i can pretty much go to any home depot in new york and find at least 30 illegal day laborers hanging out in the parking lot looking for work in full view of the world, and dont try and tell me Immigration does not know about it, as for your comment on the Irish buzzing off back to Ireland, so its okay for the Irish to come here & fight your wars & sacrifice our lives for america, but to come here and just earn a living and try to make a life for ourselves, thats a problem for you, wake up moron and stop living in your bubble, and by the way look at the list of ( congressional medal of honor recepients ) look at how many are Irish or of Irish decent, yeah might just open your eyes moron.

All Irish immigrants legal and illegal. Go back to Ireland, and fight for your country! Take it back from the EU and the greedy Irish traitors who are destroying Irish culture.

I have worked with refugees and immigrants for 15 years and people from Mexico are just like anyone else: fine, upstanding, hardworking people who want the same as folks from Ireland--a job, a home, an education for their children--and people who are in the U.S. illegally do not qualify for welfare programs and do not fill up the jails. They keep a low profile, just like the Irish.

The Irish have more to offer the U.S. than the illegal Mexicans who want to get on welfare programs plus fill up the jails.

Its hard to see how they could do a special deal for the Irish when there are millions of illegals from other countries.It would have to part of overall immigration reform.

illegal aliens, don't you understand what that means,, you broke the law,, you have no right to be here,,

I have no sympathy whatsoever for illegal aliens who break our laws and try to settle here without permission. They're not wanted--Buzz Off back to Ireland!

EvelynDavey --No action is taken against people who are in Ireland illegally. Well, I misspeak. Sometimes they are served with a deportation order. But guess what? They are given advance notice of when the cops are coming to escort them to the airport. It's weird, but almost none of them happen to be at home on that day! The point is--don't cite the Irish immigration "system", it's the laziest, sloppiest and stupidest in the world.

Quick side note to my previous comment - a lot of the illegals I know do have tax ID numbers so do pay taxes so they're at least trying to do something by the book.

I am an American and my boyfriend lives with me in America illegally. Yes we can get married - and we might one day. I've learned it's not as easy as simply saying "everyone should enter this country legally or not enter at all." Since 9/11 it is extremely difficult to get a visa to live past the allotted 6 mo. tourist visa here. A lot of times I've been the only American in bars over here - the rest illegal Irish who would give their right foot to have their papers. Majority just didn't have the most extensive of education and no opportunity at University back home. My friends are mainly either in construction or work behind a bar. Who's going to issue these people a visa as laws stand now? It's made me appreciative to be from a country that this decision will NEVER be on my plate since there is opportunity here. What about the people I am friends with who have had to make this decision at such a young age - come here to live illegally to make some sort of decent living because they can't get it at home? Trust me - it's not a 'decent' living by our standards either, but to them at least it's something. Immigration needs to serious facelift and hopefully soon - though it's political suicide so I'm not confident anything will ever get done.