Obama immigration plan may make 'illegal aliens' legal
Administration wants legalization program before November midterm elections
Published Friday, November 13, 2009, 3:16 PM
Updated Saturday, November 14, 2009, 10:07 AM
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howareya | Jan 27, 2010, 12:16 PM EST
There are reasons why we have immigration rules. If they are more stringent now, there is a reason. There are millions of people that would love to come to this country...mostly from third world countries. We cannot take them all! Like I said before, it's like the lifeboats from the Titanic on the verge of sinking because of all the people climbing aboard.
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plasticpaddy | Nov 17, 2009, 03:50 PM EST
TrophyWife, might I ask when you did so? I have done so within the past two years, and would posit that it is next to near impossible
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TrophyWife | Nov 17, 2009, 01:46 AM EST
As others have stated, coming here legaly is not impossible. I did so myself, and I'm sick and tired of the whining in regards to this issue. No matter if you're from Ireland(self included) or any other country...do it the right way. Anything worth having is worth the work involved or the struggle.
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plasticpaddy | Nov 16, 2009, 03:41 PM EST
Actually FastEddy it is very difficult to come here legally. Very, very difficult, to suggest otherwise is not true. It is not too much to ask for people to come here legally, but at least provide that opportunity, it simply doesn't exist anymore for the vast vast majority of immigrants whether educated and skilled or not.
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plasticpaddy | Nov 16, 2009, 03:40 PM EST
Honestly allentown I think you're right. Despite my wanting something to happen I think it would be politiclaly naive at a time when Republicans have witnessed gains in certain key areas in recent elections.
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allentown | Nov 16, 2009, 02:18 PM EST
That is not what I heard. I heard that the Obama Administration will not address illegal immigration in 2010, because the Democrats are afraid of the voters in the November elections.
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plasticpaddy | Nov 16, 2009, 12:13 PM EST
FatherVol, because the laws have changed significantly. I think you would find it 99% likely that they would not be able to come here today under the same circumstances.
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FastEddy | Nov 16, 2009, 12:10 PM EST
FatherVal: " My grandparents came into this country legally 80 years ago. Why is it so difficult for people of other nations to do the same? "
It is not difficult to come to the USA, illegally. It is not difficult to come to the USA legally, either. That's the point. US citizenship used to be worth something to many. Passing the physical(s), paying the taxes and fees to get in and get legal and are not too much to ask. Most other countries make these kinds of allowances.
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FatherVol | Nov 16, 2009, 11:15 AM EST
My grandparents came into this copuntrry legally 80 years ago. Why si it so difficult for people of other nations to do the same?
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FastEddy | Nov 16, 2009, 10:24 AM EST
This is good. I would suggest US$10,000 in fines plus 20% in taxes on income while here illegally ... that's about what I pay as a legal citizen ... Of course if you vote democrat, your bill may vary.
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IrishAndProud | Nov 15, 2009, 08:27 PM EST
Understood. I appreciate your responses.
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plasticpaddy | Nov 14, 2009, 07:08 PM EST
Plasticpaddy, you cannot tell someone to keep an opinion that you disagree with to themselves. I will agree with that,it is nto what I meant with it, more misinformed and misdirected anger, I disagree with.
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plasticpaddy | Nov 14, 2009, 06:34 PM EST
As for the criticism of Obama, at least he is taking a position, placing it before congress and allowing the democratic process to either pass of defeat the idea of public healthcare. As for the issue of immigration, it is mostly opposed by most people because they say 'hey, im against illegal immigration' when they do not understand the lack of a legal route. It's like saying im against crack cocaine and locking up all the users without going after the people selling and producing the stuff. It really is based on a misleading of the public into a frenzy on issues where actual knowledge and critical thought are non-existent.So it could equally be argued (not convinced this is my own opinion, yet) that the public are horribly misinformed by the lack of an objective (even somewhat objective) media in this country. All they hear are absolutley biased news coverage from privately owned companies, in turn owned by huge media conglomerates. There really is a case in this country for an government funded, but independently operated news station that would be prevented by law from giving disproportionate time to biased individuals, they would be permiotted togive all opinions on a topic, but given equal force, time etc. So many problems, so much misinformation.
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plasticpaddy | Nov 14, 2009, 06:23 PM EST
I'm not excusing it I'm saying that people here criticise what they do not understand. They want people to come here legally. When legal options are unavailable, illegal entry is the result. You are reading more into my comments than I mean them to say. I merely want people to understand why there are so many illegals and concentrate on the actual issue at hand, not just the condemnation of people with no other option. Give people a way to come her legally and then if they come illegally you can criticise it without my feeling the need to interject.
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