Ulster Lord describes gay marriages and homosexuality as deviant

Kilsally, I cannot believe that the Church of Ireland condemns homosexuality. I haven't been to a Church of Ireland except to tour, but I've read and heard that the anglophone member churches of the Anglican Communion welcome all, regardless of sexual orientation and other group characteristics. Long ago it rejected that "intrinsically disordered" judgment. Please see the Irish Central article "Church of Ireland to discuss hurt caused to gay society," by Hilda Higgins, Friday, May 11, 2012. If you know something the rest of us don't, please tell.

Watched a programme recently where they sent 2 pretty active and at times agressive tearaways to America to live with 2 guys (married to eaach other and the first same male allowed in their state). They have already adopted or fostered 5 other teenagers. Me and the boss were sitting in shock as we had just witnessed 2 of the best parents we have ever seen. Needlessly to say the 2 young tearaways returned home to England as nice as the children the men are caring for. Brilliant viewing Fair play to them. Hope they take mine over next. lol

eiriamach: Great post. lol

eiriamach: Thank you again for your clear and rational thinking. Its the sort of thinking that the loathesome bigot, Maginnis either shuns, or has no access to whatsoever.

Marint, straight people can practice 'sodomy' too or dont you realise that? Gay marriage affects no ones lives except the lives of the couple involved, NO ONE ELSE. Jamie, you might practice the 'Dont ask, dont tell' policy but sometimes, I ask and Im told!!

Ah I see Ken is a bigot because he is a Unionist, yet his stance is no different to that of the Catholic Church. The SDLP & Sinn Fein have quickly condemned the UUP man but not a squeak regarding the Catholic Churches (And Church of Ireland, Presbyterian Church in Ireland, Free Presbyterian Church etc) stance. Vatican states that homosexuality is `intrinsically disordered and morally evil"

Well said by eiriamach, jaxxy21, alisaann, ciaradexy and others who post that having kids, or not, isn't based on marriage. Plenty of kids are born out-of-wedlock and many marriages are childless either by choice or infertility. What consenting adults choose to do behind closed doors is their business. You're in la-la land if you don't think that some straight couples don't engage in what others might consider "kinky" sex. So what if they do? How does that affect you? I have more important things to do than to wonder about what other couples - gay or straight - are doing in private and worrying about whether they're doing something "unnatural" or not. I follow the "don't ask, don't tell" policy when it comes to sex lives - mine and others. Concentrate on your own sex life and let others take care of theirs, Mr. Maginnis. You are not the bedroom police.

IrelandNorth says that homosexuality deviates "from the norm." Yes, and people born with speech impediments "deviate from the norm," so let's deprive them of their rights as well. Come to think of it, people born with white skin "deviate from the norm" of skin color around the globe, so let's let the majority, people of color, decide what rights--if any--light-skinned people will have. You see where this "thinking by the norm" takes us. WE DECIDE what the "norm" is for social institutions like marriage and family life. We can expand our understandings any time, and now's the time for you to do that along with the rest of us. Get with it! It's about fairness and social unity, not "radical chic."

Ex-Ulster Defence Regiment (UDR) Major - Lord Maginnis is right! Even if he is a descendant of 'soupers' (originally Irish Catholic/Republican/Nationalists (Mc Guinnesses) who were starved into converting to Protestantism in exchange for basic sustenance). While Lord Maginnis may not be speaking in an official capacity for the Ulster Unionist Party (UUP), (which hasn't succeeded in uniting the province since is partition), surely as Commoners in their beloved British caste system they'll be obliged to defer to an exalted superior. Homosexuality/same sex marriages do deviate from the norm. And both Hebrew/Christian Testaments abominate them. Undoubtedly, the denizens of Pompeii and Sodom considered themselves radically chic too!

In Canada we have had same-gender marriages for years and no one blinks an eye. What does it matter to me that the two gay men down the street are in love and married. It doesn't make my tulips grow better or worse in my own garden. They go to work, add to society and are decent folks to live near. Why would you not want a society where all are valued. That makes so little sense to an evolved community. But then some always feel better by moralizing on love. Who can have it and who can't. After reading some of the comments on here and seeing how full of hate some are I am so glad to not live where you all do and have rights trampled on by the holier-than-thou cavemen. You would think in a place where wars have been battled for centuries you'd have a better understanding of what the word peace really means.

In Lord Magennis' world he'd no doubt have it illegal for Ulster protestants to marry Irish Catholics or whites to marry negroes. Its very hard for a bigot to change his (orange) spots.

Of course Lord Maginnis is perfectly right and truthful. Whoever supports the weird homosexual carry on has been brainwashed. They just wanted to be 'accepted', then the creeping along gained momentum, Now they want sodomy equalized to marriage of a man and a woman? What next? Normal marriage banned? Get sense people - where will their future bring us?

Welcome to conservative religion. Living in the dark ages of human history. BTW I think it was Irish times that said 73% of the Irish people support changing the constitution to allow our gay friends and family to marry) The movement will get to NI also if it hasnt already. If we didnt have 'relativism" btw we'd still be attending hangings for pickpocketing (the pickpockets would work the crowd cheering at the demise of someone who prob hadnt eateen in days btw) Women would be kept barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen In the USA blacks and inter-racial marriage would still be banned as not following natural law. And then theres that little problem with 100,000 kiddies per SNAP and their sex starved, even forbidden to masturbate priests. And the hierarchy who even worse covered up these vile crimes..........No wonder there is an attempt to bring Bennie before the internatioal criminal court. Pray it happens. Reading about Pope PIUS xii (hitler's pope by John Cornwell, Pius was also an extremist control freak............. As have been almost all tyrants in history.

ALOT OF MARRIED PEOPLE DON'T WANT OR CAN'T HAVE KIDS....DOES THAT MEAN, THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO MARRY?....PLEASE, PEOPLE GET OVER THAT EXCUSE. ALISA

another closed-minded BIGOT, who can't get out from behind his bible....wonder if he'd like to make DIVORCE ILLEGAL?...being that IS a sin according to the good book.....LOVE IS LOVE, NO MATTER OF THE "GENDER" OR RACE OF THOSE INVOLVED.....RELIGION HAS NO PLACE IN POLITICS. ALISA