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U.S. must negotiate with Hamas same as with IRA says Arab leader

NY Times op-ed piece calls for talks


George Mitchell, the U.S. Special Envoy for Middle East Peace, with President Obama.

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A leading Palestinian-American has called on the United States to negotiate with Hamas the same way they negotiated with Sinn Fein.

Writing in The New York Times op-ed page, Ali Abunimah stated that the approach the U.S. took to Irish nationalist leaders should be undertaken with Hamas.

“Both the Irish and Middle Eastern conflicts figure prominently in American domestic politics — yet both have played out in very different ways.” he wrote.

“The United States allowed the Irish-American lobby to help steer policy toward the weaker side: the Irish government in Dublin and Sinn Fein and other nationalist parties in the north.

“At times, the United States put intense pressure on the British government, leveling the field so that negotiations could result in an agreement with broad support. By contrast, the American government let the Israel lobby shift the balance of United States support toward the stronger of the two parties: Israel.”

He also stated that it was “only by breaking with one-sided demands that (U.S.peace negotiator) George Mitchell was able to help bring peace to Northern Ireland.

“In 1994, for instance, Mr. Mitchell, then a Democratic senator from Maine, urged President Bill Clinton — against strenuous British objections — to grant a United States visa to Gerry Adams, the Sinn Fein leader.

Mr. Mitchell later wrote that he believed the visa would enable Mr. Adams “to persuade the I.R.A. to declare a cease-fire, and permit Sinn Fein to enter into inclusive political negotiations.”

“As mediator, Mr. Mitchell insisted that a cease-fire apply to all parties equally, not just to the I.R.A.”

Such an approach involving Hamas woud be far more successful than what is being tried at the moment, he stated.

He stated that Mitchell’s latest role as Middle East envoy was doomed to failure if he insisted that, unlike the IRA, Hamas had no place at the table.

“No serious analyst believes that peace can be made between Palestinians and Israelis without Hamas on board, any more than could have been the case in Northern Ireland without Sinn Fein and the I.R.A.” he stated.

He pointed out that leading Irish negotiators have called for Hamas to be included in talks.

“In a 2009 letter to The Times of London, several British and Irish negotiators, including John Hume, who shared the Nobel Peace Prize for the Belfast Agreement, criticized the one-sided demands imposed solely on Hamas.


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Just as you, George, should be place on the terrorist watch list, for being a Hamas sympathizer. I'll not lift a finger to expel a single Jew from their own, ancient Jewish land. Ever.
killowen, can you explain a little more about what the harp means to the English? I know Brian Boru used it as his symbol.
A leading Palestinian-American has called on the United States to negotiate with Hamas the same way they negotiated with Sinn Fein. The New York Times op-ed page, Ali Abunimah stated that the approach the U.S. took to Irish nationalist leaders should be undertaken with Hamas. Ali is an unaware being - who tries to equate the Irish cause with that of the Palestinian. Not even close, poor chap. He needs to understand the history of how England came to be and the need for an American motherland that flows there from. The founding fathers flow from that beginning - it was in 864 that an entity called England came to be and took the myths of the Celts as their own. Observe the harp on a background of the blue, the symbol for Ireland that they are desperate to maintain by holding on to piece of Ireland. They and their far flung diaspora would be diminished were they to lose the land that they cling to. Worse than the Soviet Union by far when their hammer and sickle had to go by the boards. Mother england's symbols are incorporated across her commonwealth on buldings tapestries medals chalices etc. This is the real reason that the Irish and others need to understand what is at stake within the partnership.
IandP: "and if it ever comes down to a choice between backing the USA (or any other nation) or letting the Jews remain on their own ancient land, I'm squarely with Israel."----Well there it is. You've admitted what I have been saying about and all your lousy Israel First friends, be they here or on Fox TV. You traitors put the interests of a foreign country--Israel--before America's interests. You jerks should have to register with the State Department as agents of a foreign country.
I cannot live in Israel, George, because only those who are Jewish can become legal, permanent residents. But I back Israel's existence (meaning, Jewish people living there as a nation) FULLY -- and if it ever comes down to a choice between backing the USA (or any other nation) or letting the Jews remain on their own ancient land, I'm squarely with Israel. There's no way in hell I'm ever going to raise so much as a finger to forcibly throw Jews out of their own ancient land, clear on the other side of the earth. And I'm sorry to hear that you consider anyone who backs the Jews as such to be a 'pervert.' Pardon me George, but isn't it the LEFT wing nowadays that wants to allow homosexual men to sleep in the same tents as little boys (Boy Scouts)? Knowing your general line of politics, I would be very careful -- in fact loathe -- to use that term 'pervert' against anyone else. I think you're just a bit angry because I called you what you are.
IandP, there are several posters who are definitely anti-semites, but they call everyone else "racists" and "bigots" at every opportunity. George, just where should Jews live? The Jews came from Mesopotamia and were in Cannan (Palestine) before 1200 B.C. David's son Solomon built the Temple in Jerusalem. That area (Holy Land) is their homeland as much as it's the homeland of the Arabs. It was the BRITISH that divided Palestine for the Jews & Arabs in 1948. For thousands of years the Jews had tried living in other places, only to be harassed, persecuted, driven out, and later exterminated by that monster Hitler and his scumbag Nazi friends. Today the Muslims live to exterminate every last one of them. The Jews are no "saints" but neither are the Arabs. It's been a game of "tit" for "tat" for thousands of years between them; neither side wanting to give an inch. If all my ancestors came from Ireland and then their descendants emigrated to the U.S., I'd consider Ireland as my ancestral homeland if I was forced to leave the U.S. I wouldn't go to Sweden. That area, including Palestine, is the ancestral homeland of the Jews, and, no, I'm not Jewish.
irish&Proud: Stupid slurs won't have any effect on me when they come from traitors. You're loyal to a foreign country--Israel. That makes you a lousy traitor to America. Why don't you drag yourself over to Israel if you love it so much? You're a disgusting traitor and apologist for murder and cruelty. You strike me as a Pervert who's into violence and degradation. See a psychiatrist.
George, they're JEWS from all those different lands, who've come home. Who are you, a foreign gentile, to say Jews should not live on their own lands? BTW in case you hadn't noticed, the last time Jews were in Poland, Russia and the like in large numbers they were slaughtered en masse, to put it mildly. So you, GeorgeDillon, apparently don't want the Jews ANYWHERE..maybe your hero Hitler should have finished the job, aye? You antisemite SOB.
IandP: "Russian ones, Polish, Indian, Chinese, Ethiopian, Yemeni, South American, North American -- " So what the hell are all these Russians, Poles, Chinese, Africans, Americans, doing in Palestine? Why don't they go home? Why did they steal the Palestinians' lands?
Oh, also, Dennis...Israel is one of the most diverse societies around. There are Jews there from every part of the globe: Russian ones, Polish, Indian, Chinese, Ethiopian, Yemeni, South American, North American -- all united in faith and in most cases genetics, and all who've miraculously returned to their own ancient home, and are once again speaking the same language and practicing the same faith that was there thousands of years ago.
Israel is not 'Alabama,' Dennis...nor is it South Africa. If Israel, which is already 10% Arab, allows itself to be flooded with more of them (who are raised from birth wanting its destruction) and/or whoever else, there will quickly be no Jewish state left...which is precisely the intent of many of its critics. And for a tiny number of people in the whole scheme of things, it makes a load of sense for the Jews to not allow themselves to be obliterated -- heaven knows, it's already been tried against them. Why should they allow themselves to be snuffed out on their own ancient homeland, just because some outsiders (in their usual shallow, ridiculous 'reasoning,') think Israel is comparable to Alabama? BTW the reason Israel gets so much U.S. funding is because the majority of Americans back it to the hilt -- heart and soul. Until that changes the funding will probably not dry up...but even if it does, Israel will survive. They've certainly been through worse, all through the centuries.
We don't owe Israel $3 bn a year of no-strings-attached support. Aside from the fact that it is needed at home, this money is apparently used to bolster Israel's apartheid security state.

What are we buying with this three billion dollars? We should have some goals in mind, some human rights objectives that we'd like the Israelis to aim for. We attach strings all the time to domestic programs; why not make a start at phasing out the no strings attached aspect of this lavish subsidy.

We're not forcing Israel's hand. They'll always have the option of refusing the money. However, if they choose to accept the money, we can establish multicultural targets for them to achieve. If goal-setting is good enough for Alabama, it's good enough for Israel.
What is this word terrorist/terrorism? And what human beings do you apply it too and why? And who are they these so called people of terror? Do you know? or do you know because politicians and the media who run your country tell you who they are? Do you believe politicians tell the people the real truth? Who dies when they tell you to go to war against terrorist's? And do they get the right people? or does it matter if they kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people along the way What makes these terrorist's/people want to kill and hurt other people of certain nations? Very simple questions,but there is one word that makes a so called terrorist....Injustice...when a people/nation are treated with injustice,you will get resistance and that resistance will get support from the people. You can kill the terrorist,but now his son becomes your new enemy and his son and his son and his son ect. And while your government stations troops all over the world because of fear..The powerful of your country will bleed the center to support the troops and the middle class will disappear leaving just the really rich and the really poor.The birth of a new third world country. If the British army couldn't defeat the I.R.A in a place the size of a postage stamp,How the hell does anybody think they can defeat Hamas by using force. If you want peace and want your government to spend your tax dollars in your neighbourhood,better tell them to sit down with Hamas and talk. Don't worry they will get on fine they have alot in common they all kill people.
I know. There's just a lot of flat-out Israel-haters out there, who will be satisfied with nothing short of its destruction and the death and/or scattering (preferably the former) of every last Jew in it. The Jews living on their own ancient land is just too much for some people (never mind that many of these critics are living on land that their own ancestors did NOT come from), and Israel will never be 'legitimate' to them. Fortunately Israel does not require their approval to exist -- and Israel will most likely never even know of THEIR existence, in turn. Like all of us, they're just sounding off on a post, and it really won't affect anything over there, in the least.
I&P I picked up on that too, such anti-semitism, I wonder where it stems from? 1 rogue rabbi in their cujo like minds equals thousands of imams and ayatollahs calling for the destruction of Israel....always looking for some sort of moral equivalency no matter how pitifully small.




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