US attracting more and more Irish undocumented
As recession bites many Irish heading for America
Published Monday, December 27, 2010, 7:08 AM
Updated Monday, December 27, 2010, 7:19 AM
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esatdigiwank | Dec 28, 2010, 04:39 AM EST
quote:"If that's what you meant you're talking tripe. 99 out of a hundred Irish couldn't come up with a good swear word in Gaelic" Woundedknee - Irish is Gaelic! you've just emphatically proved my point, so i'm not talking tripe!
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Johnnyclash | Dec 28, 2010, 12:45 AM EST
Plenty of good jobs in the San Francisco bay area for anyone willing to do them, and the weather is great.
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sirpeter | Dec 27, 2010, 07:40 PM EST
Georgy..If you have no respect for the Irish why are you on this site?..Do you have to be a pr*ck with every post you scribble.To be honest I think you are a brainless worthless piece of Sh*t.You don't or can't even make an effort to post something coherent.
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Madeleine | Dec 27, 2010, 04:46 PM EST
The Irish are welcome in America, they always have been We welcome all immigrants who want to live and work and assimilate but also keep their own culture and let us keep ours. I don't know where londonirish is getting the idea that America is for partying youngsters, if you want to have a career this is where most people come,not Ireland. the East Indians thrive here as do people from the philipines, the UN brings as many foreigners in as they can squeeze in, unfortunately we are losing more Americans everyday to Canada and their own families birth places. America is going through a difficult time right now and there are just as many Americans out of work here as there is in Ireland, sending our whole shoe Industry to china didnt' help, we all wear shoes, why would we do that? we don't know.I have always had a lot of Irish friends, they have been coming here for years and made a good life for themselves, even the illegals, we had the best health care in the world until Obamacare which costs more than private care.We are losing homes on a daily basis because the UN is controlling our water and our country and they don't believe in home ownership, thats what its all about, that and a one world bank. These things are beyond our control and its not because of anything the Irish or the partying Americans are doing. I would welcome any Irish into America, they are nice people but I think they would be going from the frying pan into the fire, it might still be better job wise though but I can't understand how they are finding work when Americans can't.still, I wish them luck. My husband has family in Wexford and they seem to be doing OK. Lets hope better days are coming for all of us.
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londonirish1965 | Dec 27, 2010, 03:36 PM EST
America is for youngsters who want to party and work to pay for the booze and drugs.Anyone serious about a career or working to pay bills or support family will go to England or Europe,where you get healthcare and decent pay, conditions and holidays.
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JeffGallagher | Dec 27, 2010, 02:31 PM EST
Patrick Cooper, don't predicate your statement regarding illegal immigration with a lie; the illegal Irish that come here to American will, in all likelihood, remain here unless they are found by Immigration and deported. Unlike the latin american illegal, if an Irishman chooses to fight his deportation, he or she is likely to end up jailed until they get a disposition on their case. Latins are usually just freed with a "promise" to show up in court. Likely.....not.
The truth is, no matter how much I idealize my grandfather's homeland, they need to fix their problems. Those who immigrate here illegally, should pay the price. Legal immigrants? Welcome, one and all, but let us run our country and you run yours.
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monaghanjack | Dec 27, 2010, 02:03 PM EST
In Belfast we have always laughed at the "pretend-Gaelic" speakers. Recently I attended a "Feile an Phobail" gathering attended by Gerry Adams & he was amazed that I, a real-Irish speaker, did not understand the garbage that he & his colleagues were uttering. The fact is, the younger people do not want to speak a useless language if they are not into Education, as I am.
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WoundedKnee | Dec 27, 2010, 01:51 PM EST
esatdig; "Indeed, we are even incapable of swearing/cursing through our own native tongue". Do you mean in English? Well, big deal, though you are right that the Irish curse a lot. Or maybe you meant in Irish? If that's what you meant you're talking tripe. 99 out of a hundred Irish couldn't come up with a good swear word in Gaelic. Ask the ones that post here--I bet they can't.
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esatdigiwank | Dec 27, 2010, 01:39 PM EST
"very little distinctive Irish culture"..Indeed, we are even incapable of swearing/cursing through our own native tongue.
Now how responsible was the role of the rc church for killing off that ability (digression)?
"..Australia, Canada, Britain, NZ, US" : how predictable..
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WoundedKnee | Dec 27, 2010, 12:17 PM EST
donal: What distinguishes this "new strain of modern Irish culture" from British culture? Or even our own US culture? The young Irish I see appear to maintain very little distinctive Irish culture.
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donal1951 | Dec 27, 2010, 11:11 AM EST
The Irish undocumented worker has the advantage over many others because of fluency in English. But the federal government is cracking down on employers who hire illegals, so it's not risk-free.
I personally welcome them as they bring with them a strong work ethic and a new strain of modern Irish culture. I wish we would change the USA's immigration policy to favor those with skills we need and to give great weight to the ability to speak English. This would help not only the Irish, but many Indians and Pakistanis as well. It would also help many Europeans for whom English is a strong second language, such as folks from the Netherlands, and Asians, such as Filippinos.
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Barbaracvm | Dec 27, 2010, 10:57 AM EST
An illegal is an illegal, whether he is from Mexico or Ireland it is all the same.
If Ireland would stop paying all the expenses of the retirees the working people would have more money for themselves.
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CitizenWhy | Dec 27, 2010, 10:32 AM EST
Sadly, the people Ireland is losing are skilled and hard working and personable, easy to employ or get good paying construction projects. You know, people who would be good taxpayers. What's left? Tax-evading rich people, a smaller middle class within a shrinking economy doomed to austerity to pay off foreign banks, and a growing underclass that lives separately from the culture of work.
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CitizenWhy | Dec 27, 2010, 10:26 AM EST
GeorgeDillon calls Irish emigrants worthless. Perhaps many see the government the Irish people choose to elect as worthless, with its corrupt, cozy politics, selling out the Irish people to help bail out privately owned German, British and French banks. My own parents left Ireland long ago not for economic reasons but because they thought the country was going in the wrong direction politically, abandoning ideas and ideals for cozy relationships and small mindedness. With that said, my relatives in Ireland, like many others, are prosperous, but they have shunned politics and never participated in the recent real estate speculation or took big spending sprees abroad. They are the kind who could easily buy a fancy car but might prefer to have a horse outside instead. and give to charity and spend on culture and help needy neighbors and develop productive farms and businesses.
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