US Supreme Court appeal possible in Boston College IRA case
Lawyers say they fear for safety of two researchers who did interviews
Published Sunday, July 8, 2012, 7:32 AM
Updated Sunday, July 8, 2012, 7:32 AM
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DanOLoingsigh | Jul 11, 2012, 02:26 PM EDT
maireadinmelb - I agree with your comment that nobody should be held without knowing why, and if that's the case it is very wrong...as far as I can see Ms Price is now being held on other grounds...a bit more serious...
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seamus60 | Jul 11, 2012, 07:37 AM EDT
maireadinmelb. 100%. The issue that concerns me more is the fact that such an abuse is not being challenged by the biggest party in Ireland. An Ireland of equals an all of that. Yet no one here appears to have any answers as to why.
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maireadinmelb | Jul 11, 2012, 02:13 AM EDT
The idea that any person is held in a prison without knowing what evidence is being used against them is a fundamental breach of democracy and liberty! That is how dictatorial governments are born!
There is a difference between having a political opinion and being guilty of murder. Marion Price although convicted of terrorist crimes (in a system that made many errors - ask the guildford four etc) served a sentence was released. How does holding a piece of paper compare to the conduct of Ian Paisley's hate ridden violence inciting speeches over a 50 year period?
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seamus60 | Jul 10, 2012, 08:53 PM EDT
You may just get more than what you wish for Fallsrnat. The house of lords are shortly to vote on whether to roll out this crazy closed material process across the board to include employmeny disputes , imigration and just about anything they like against anyone they dislike. But not a mention of it in Stormont. Try it out first on Republicans,
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seamus60 | Jul 10, 2012, 05:55 PM EDT
So Martin Coreys 21 years served as a political prisoner is now considered a free pass.
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seamus60 | Jul 10, 2012, 05:52 PM EDT
Fallsrnat. Martin Corey is being held because of closed material. A judge has decided that there is nothing in the closed material that is of any relevance for detaining ANY individual. So much so he has referred it back to the INDEPENDANT board that had already refused Martins release on the same closed material, wanting to know how they arrived at their decision in the first place. There is clearly scullduggery going on. There are rules as laid out for ex-prisoners in the GFA. Are you saying its ok to change them for individuals now.
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FallsRNat | Jul 10, 2012, 04:50 PM EDT
for many years both sets of loyalist & repulican terrorists assumed that they were given a free pass for their heinous crimes, during the run up to the GFA, we the ordinary people were treated to their celebrations when they were released, now, however, the time has come to investigate these crimes, the terrorists are crying & pleading to be special cases & allowed literally to get away with murder, i'm sorry, but if Price committed to tape her part as the driver to took Mrs McConville to her execution, then she should be held to account for her actions, nobody in the Nationalist community is against these tapes being sent back to NI, for the sake of everybody on the island of Ireland, these people need to take responsibilty for their actions, saying sorry, just doesn't cut it.
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seamus60 | Jul 10, 2012, 11:49 AM EDT
Kilsally. Maybe you should tell that to judge Treacey and the European Court of Human rights. AS you appear to believe they have both gotten it wrong. But hey don`t let a few "it seems" get in the way of locking up Irish republicans cause they don`t tow the SF party line. The fools have not learned by the past. This will be a recruitment winner for millitant republicans. The fasade of such tactics to stop dissenchanted SF`ers and the likes jumping ship will have the opposite effect. Is Marian price charged with holding a piece of paper ? Did Gerry or Martin EVER get ARRESTED for doing the same ????
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Kilsally | Jul 10, 2012, 11:26 AM EDT
Seamus60 - neither Martin Corey or Marian Price are interned. Both they and a couple of Loyalist paramilitaries who were released early on licence / parole have been returned to jail to serve the remainder of their original sentences as it was deemed they have been breaking their licence terms by taking part in crime or supporting terrorism - price was at a dissident republican rally holding up a speech for a balaclava clad man spouting about killing catholic policemen just after Catholic Officer Stephen Carrol had been killed. Corey it seems has been doing similar but the evidence is from the intelligence services and has not been released- the court case is on the technicality that only the court and parole board have seen this evidence - corey has not.
maireadmelb - the tapes were requested as part of the murder investigation of Jean McConville - tapes would obviously be required as evidence even if people already know their contents.
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seamus60 | Jul 10, 2012, 11:01 AM EDT
They waited till the tapes went stateside. Its now a massive international story, that sends a clear warning out to anyone thinking of putting pen to paper as to their involvement in conflict, that they leave themselves open. Possably even US millitary.
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maireadinmelb | Jul 10, 2012, 05:48 AM EDT
IF the PSNI know what is in the tapes why do they need them?
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occassio | Jul 10, 2012, 12:15 AM EDT
DanOLoingsigh. The PSNI's claim that these tapes will result in justice is disingenuous and not to be believed. Alas, interest and sincerity come decades too late. There are other motives at large. The PSNI is not known for honesty and moral rectitude. You must peel away the layers to get at the core.
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seamus60 | Jul 09, 2012, 07:29 PM EDT
Oliver12. Destroy the evidence ? just like the brit gov done for the Para`s shortly after Bloody Sunday. Anyways in this case "what evidence" ? According to SF all those interviewed suffer from mental illness and or have drink and other problems. The standard excuse to discredit anyone not in their thinking terms.
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seamus60 | Jul 09, 2012, 07:08 PM EDT
That was the latest in the ongoing Internment of republican Martin Corey. SF welcomed his release but as of yet have made no comment on his arrest before leaving prison from his last bout of Internment. In the old days they would have wasted no time at all in calling people onto the streets to protest at the same injustice, only differance being Martin doesn`t tow the party line.
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