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The time for Irish unity is now -- economically, politically it makes perfect sense

A small island divided into two economies makes no sense in the modern world


Could a United Ireland be the answer for Ireland's recovery?
Could a United Ireland be the answer for Ireland's recovery?
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Like the idea of a national identity for Yorkshire or Cumbria, the idea that one moves from one nationality when moving from Dundalk (in the south) to Newry (a few mile away in the North) is nonsense. Statisticians who try to group those in the North into neat categories of British, Irish or Northern Irish miss the point: The majority of people in the North regard themselves as some sort of Irish.

And those who regard themselves as Northern Irish have far more in common with their neighbours a few miles away in the south than they do with anyone in Yorkshire, London or Cardiff. None of the parties in Wales or England – the Tories, Labour or Liberals – have any representation in Northern Ireland. Nor any real interest or connection with it.

Boost for a united Ireland support in new poll figures from Irish Times

For Westminster, Northern Ireland is a backwater to be funded by subvention, tolerated with sighs and sometimes a convenient place for Prime Ministers to exile their political enemies in cabinet. And that is why in the long run, Irish unity – a unity based on a joint parliament in Belfast and a strong role for Protestants holding the balance of power and with strong safeguards for those of British identity – makes sense: We in the south want a United Ireland while the English have no interest in the place.

They don’t realise it, but the southern Irish like their protestant fellow Irishmen and want them on board. The English merely tolerate them. The alternative to reunification is to keep nearly 60 per cent of the North’s population who regard themselves as Irish or Northern Irish in a British statelet that was designed along sectarian lines, ie to lock in a protestant majority.

 A statelet that moreover belongs to an entity that treats catholics as second class citizens. And here is another reason for unification: In the south we have had two protestant Heads of State. In Britain, the Head of state must be Protestant. This is offensive and grotesquely out of date. Despite accusations of being “priest-ridden” the south is far more progressive and pluralist than the north.
                   
As recent census data shows, the British constitution – based on Protestant supremacy – will soon be out of kilter with a Northern Ireland in which Catholics will soon be equal in number to Protestants and a decade or so after that become a majority. A majority of under 30 year old are already catholic. And here is the danger:

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puffin! The devil is in the "only". A 45% - 55% 'Northern Irish only' could only mean neither a United Kingdom nor a United Ireland - but an independent NI! Perhaps that's the Aristotelian golden mean, (or the Buddhist middle path)? But compare and contrast the results of the Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency's Household Surrvey, 2011 and the British Broadcasting Corporation commissioned Ipsos/MORI Attitudes survey, 2013 on the same or similar questions, and ask yourself, why the dramatic discrepancies in less than a year? A statistical gerrymandering - perchance?
AS AN IRISHMAN LIVING HERE IN IRELAND IT ANNOYS ME TO HEAR THESE OPINIONS FROM AMERICANS ABOUT MY COUNTRY AND WHAT WE DO OR DONT DO IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS .. I COULDNT CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT YOU DO IN YOUR COUNTRY AND ID LIKE YOU TO STOP INTERFERING IN MINE ...!!!
@puffy – “it is not for an American to say,we allo vote with our hip pocket at the end of the day,did you vote Democrat” So hopefully the english and welsh (as well as the residents of Devon and Cornwall) begin to vote their pockets and dump the occupied statelet.
Thats it Puffin, a think ye are trying tae take a hand af me and am not going to fall for it.Im not the kind af a person that takes easily to winding up and a have better things tae do.What would you know about 1926, nothing ,admit it ,you are just hashing and giving protestant,dacent protestant people of Ireland a bad name.You belong in Balllymacool estate along with them other fixers and trouble makers.
MARC I think if you think that Northern Prods will make any difference to the governance of a unitary state you are mistaken,in 1926 protestants made 10% of the Republic,where are they now,in a unitary state Prods would 11% of the Population sounds familiar, from an economic point of view 2 billion euro to party with,you might as well it won't be about much longer
Ireland North for the sake of argument lets split Norther Irish only,50~50 give or take 5% does that change any thing
I've finally achieved bi-location. Puffin thinks I'm a Democrat Yank. Realist thinks I'm a Connolly Hse narrator. Rather than me not mentioning Northern Ireland (NI) only status, I've already posted that BBC/Ipsos/MORI, 2013 completely ignored this designation entirely, forcing respondents into either/or but not both camps. So much so that that 20% Northern Irish only (2011) are probably the same as said they wouldn't vote at all in 2013, being deprived of their identity of choice. Whilst there was commendable overlap in 2011, the main designations were British only (40%)/Irish only (25%)/Northern Ireland only 21%), and 14% none/neither/other/not stated. I actually agreed with your 'hip pocket' hypothesis.
Wullie the ye try te tak the hamely tongue,but ye are nae mackin much o it,the richt spellen o nobody is naebady
I do believe that the land that was stolen, yes stolen from the Irish by the British and planted with their own pedigree, should now be returned to the Irish and let the Irish determine its future.If those people still living on this stolen land insist on wanting to be British, simple, go live in Britain and let the Irish enjoy the freedom of their own country.
IrelandNorth: Lol….are you in tears my friend? She protests too much. Opting for a British only identity is not the limit of those who are pro the status quo and remaining with the United Kingdom. There was also 21% in the 2011 census that opted for a Northern Irish identity (you didn’t mention that I notice). If you assume they are also pro status quo (not unreasonable as Sinn Fein supporters, like you, cannot bring themselves to use the term “Northern Ireland” never mind “Northern Irish”), together, that makes 61%. Then add a few percent of the pragmatic Irish only identity category and there you have your 65%. Shooting the messenger because you can’t handle the message only further erodes your own credibility. I suggest you go back to Connolly House and ask for a better “narrative”. But then, you know this already, don’t you?
I don't think Willie likes me.
Mr Puffin ....who do you think you are like, me a decent wee man fae Glenane in Co Antrim, doin nobody nae harm, and you are on here spouting about my religious beliefs.Caught on, Caught on in under gods name, caught on tae what.You try tae desecrate the name of William Frazer you tinker wherever ye are from an I will bring the wrath of the lord himself upon your door.You and your acronyms you filthy scoundrel.Protestant good protestant people wish all souls who ever they may be to RIP, rest in peace but a can tell you are not a good protestant boy Mr Puffin.Damm your soul to the confines of the dark and may you be turned into a pillar of salt,I wud rather hiv my catholic fenian neibors any day rather than your type of protestanism Mr Puffin and aye indeed a united Ireland with my beloved Ulster.
Mr Puffin ....who do you think you are like, me a decent wee man fae Glenane in Co Antrim, doin nobody nae harm, and you are on here spouting about my religious beliefs.Caught on, Caught on in under gods name, caught on tae what.You try tae desecrate the name of William Frazer you tinker wherever ye are from an I will bring the wrath of the lord himself upon your door.You and your acronyms you filthy scoundrel.Protestant good protestant people wish all souls who ever they may be to RIP, rest in peace but a can tell you are not a good protestant boy Mr Puffin.Damm your soul to the confines of the dark and may you be turned into a pillar of salt,I wud rather hiv my catholic fenian neibors any day rather than your type of protestanism Mr Puffin and aye indeed a united Ireland with my beloved Ulster.
Ireland north calm down,some people who vote for nationalist parties,prefer the link to the UK might even have an emotional attachment, or prefer British civil service pensions, it is not for an American to say,we allo vote with our hip pocket at the end of the day,did you vote Democrat
If the Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency (NIS&RA) Household Survey (HS), 2011 reported 40% identifying as British only, (and presumably pro-United Kingdom (UK)), how can the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) claim in their recently commissioned Ipsos/MORI opinion poll that 65% are for the UK status quo (a 25% discrepancy only one year later)? If the NIS&RA HS reported 25% identifying as Irish only (and presumable United Irelander's (UIers)), how do the latter claim only 17% are for a UI? And what are BBC/Ipsos/MORIs unaccounted for 19% actually for, the Independent Northern Ireland (INI) that was excluded from consideration? NIS&RAs HS reported only 7% of Prods for a UI and 1% of RCs for the UK. BBC/Ipsos/MORI have some explaining to do as to what the unaccounted for 28% of RCs and 6% of Prods are for.




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