The myth of Ireland's high ranking education system smashed

The results of a study revealed a few days ago showed that kids in Ireland (ten year-olds I think it was) are doing quite well education-wise when compared to other countries. Why hasn't IrishCentral shown that story in addition to this one?

I find the racism in the comments posted by sirpeter and, in particular, by WoundedKnee, distasteful. I’m also very surprised that the article’s author would make a glib, simplistic connection between the apparent drop in standards in Irish education and the influx of foreigners into the country. How does she know for sure that this is the reason behind it all? There could be other factors: bad teachers, worsening classroom discipline, etc. I recommend people google "Young Scientist and Technology Exhibition" to see a list of winners of this prestigious competition. I think you'll notice some of the winners have very un-Irish-sounding names, which counters some of the xenophobic, condescending remarks made here about immigrant children. I’d love to know how WoundeKnee knows that the level of educational attainment is countries like Lithuania, Latvia, Bangladesh and Nigeria is so low. Even if it is low, that doesn’t mean the people who've come here from those countries are stupid: they could be among the better educated from those countries for all we know. And, if I may make a comparison between immigrants to Ireland and Irish emigrants abroad: when the Irish were leaving in their droves for the US, UK, etc. in years gone by, on average they didn’t have a high level of education. Yet they were still allowed in and, given the right opportunities, their children got a good education in their adopted countries. Shouldn’t we give people from other countries a chance here too? And as for the comment about immigrants not paying for their children's education: we actually have a free education system here, so parents - foreign or Irish - don't pay for their kids’ schooling, except through their taxes of course. And seeing as most immigrants here are working, then they're making a contribution too so I don’t know where you’re coming from there.

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WoundedKnee..You have to state facts and maybe a link to these fact's might strengthen your argument.I'm not disagreeing with you about the non-nationals lowering the ranking.The headline should read..Non-nationals lower ranking in English reading skills in Ireland.I would be much more worried if the standard of teaching was lowering.I see that ranking as only temporary as it will rise again as the non-nationals become better at reading English.You will have to show me a link to your IQ rating of Ireland,you know 60 is laughable and untrue.Course you do know that IQ testing is not a test on intelligence.Example..Indigenous people of the Amazon are hardly going to score high on a Western IQ test,but that doesn't mean they are unintelligent.IQ testing is bulls*it really and no one in their sane mind would judge a person on IQ alone.I know professors with a very high IQ but find every day simple tasks very difficult to cope with.With some of them take them out of their field of expertise and if you didn't know they were a professor you could nearly class them as imbeciles.I might get censored for this and it wouldn't be the first time,but my only fear with the non-nationals is the negroid people.They do very little integrating and tend to ghettoize.White foreign migrants children will integrate fully,so no long term problem's there i think.You know WoundedKnee I never wanted foreign migrants...Not one of my family or relations live abroad that i can think of in the last two generations.My family do business in England but home is Ireland. I do have one cousin who is a scientist in some sh*t and lives in Texas.A genius but an imbecile at the same time.

sir peter; You're so "cleaver"! But leaving aside "cleaver" posts, I commend the article for mentioning the relevance of importing huge numbers of foreign migrants into the country. Many of these were from countries with very low attainment in education--Lithuania, Latvia, Nigeria, Bangladesh etc. Any person with an IQ above 80 could have seen that it would be disastrous to flood the schools with the children of these people. Unfortunately it seems the average IQ in Ireland these days is more like 60. And no one has mentioned the cost of teaching these children. The parents don't pay, and the capitalissts who import them as cheap labor don't pay. The Irish TAXPAYER pays! Hundreds of millions euros a year. What a country of dopes and dunces!

Molly I don't like your clever use of the word MYTH.Most people consider a myth to be a lie.The term "myth" is often used colloquially to refer to a false story.BUT!!academic use of the term generally does not pass judgment on truth or falsity.Because some posters here are not very academic,your use of the term myth is misleading in your headline and could be misinterpreted as derogatory and expressing a low opinion of my country.I,d appreciate if you were not so cleaver in the future.Don't you dream of taking this post down.The not so cleaver need to clearly understand what myth means.So no CENSORING on this one.

Well it Aint like you weren't WARNED.