Suicide and depression major problems for young Irish in New York
Urgent plea for those in need to seek help by experts
Published Wednesday, October 17, 2012, 7:23 AM
Updated Wednesday, October 17, 2012, 10:14 AM
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angrypaddy | Oct 20, 2012, 12:21 AM EDT
A hard days work cure's all,No drink (dole) money here,In Ireland they get 188 euro drink money a week to keep them happy and stupified while they are being robbed blind by the criminals running the country.Just like we did with the native American.give them fire water and they will beat themselves
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Happyhippo | Oct 18, 2012, 09:53 AM EDT
As the comments here have stated Alcohol and Drugs have a large bearing on the cause of depression and suicide among emigrants,they don't always leave their problems at the airport when leaving the home country,many years ago i found my self homeless and without any means of support, though i never had any addictions to worry about i made up my mind never to get myself into that situation again and as they say in Ireland i had a good talk with myself, and made up my mind if i was going to continue to live in this world i was going to do my best to make a success of my life,and that's exactly what happened to me, by just taking responsibility for myself and my own actions i was able to turn my life around and now looking back i'm just so glad i did.
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butlerreport | Oct 18, 2012, 08:51 AM EDT
The elephant here is the continued ignoring of the role that alcohol has in depression and suicide. Alcohol on it's own is a depressant; combined with pre-existing depression it feeds it like ravenous dog. When drunk we tend to do things we otherwise might not, suicide is one such thing. If we were educated about the fallacy that is the 'craic,' and taught how alcohol is such a catalyst to depression and suicide we would be doing out people a service. Our stereotype is literally killing us.
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nite | Oct 18, 2012, 01:52 AM EDT
I went from sad to angry. Angry once reaching the comments that is. No racist "pro law" conservatives this time. Wonder why? And only 11 comments? Without exaggeration that is a mere fraction of thumbs up the most vitriolic user comment receives when an article on this subject involves brown people. Never mind the comments tend to average in the dozens or hundreds. Almost all sympathetic comments here we see. Take note and say something when the lying conservatives post their "pro law" hate about Mexicans and others. Heck look at Arizona where many literally see the dead bodies of would be undocumentedlaborers. Their response has been such that even neo nazis have hailed their elected Republicans.
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paddyo | Oct 17, 2012, 09:03 PM EDT
Where you travel, you bring yourself along. Geographical cures never work. Ireland is currently a mess, soon to be like Greece and the USA has high unemployment,much higher than the numbers show. So why would young unslilled and uneducated people come here hoping to join the carpenters or doormans union. We have Mexicans and other S. Americans standing on street corners looking for any kind of work. Go to Home Depot and you will see this. How come the Polish and other nationalities in Ireland seem to find jobs. My wife just got back from Clare, the waiter in her hotel was Italian and the maids were Polish. WHY? Many of these depressed Irishmen are Alcoholics and drug addicts; as was my brother in law who committed suicide 10 years ago. If you have a problem, stay in Ireland, the hospitals and medical system here is going bankrupt, due to illegal aliens.
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jetsnoone | Oct 17, 2012, 06:23 PM EDT
Join your local parish and a Gaelic sports club... Happiness is Jesus and good friends...
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brendan gillen | Oct 17, 2012, 05:44 PM EDT
Depression is a very serious issue with Irish people. Whe I left Ireland in 61, I lived in London. Thank God for the Irish centre there, because depression hit me like a kick from a mule. It was much the same when I came to Canada, it reared up its ugly head and attacked me again. Thank God, I have learned to deal with it. Fish oil and artificial light helps and councilling helps too. And so do peer groups. And of course a lot of Irish are in the U.S. illegally, which does not help. To those who are in the throes of depression reach out in any way you can. Believe me, things will turn around. But in the meantime....
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Dunkelly1 | Oct 17, 2012, 05:18 PM EDT
Felicia, I'll tell you why they are different. Firstly because of their illegal status. You were not illegal when you went through your hard times.Which means you could apply for a legitimate job or occupation, these folks cannot. Secondly, they have no family or relations here which is terribly isolating and adds to the sense of despair. I am an Irish immigrant (illegal at one time, although my grandparents and great grandparents were Americans) who lived in New York years ago and became homeless at the age of 26. You could go to Ireland and take your chances just like these kids do here. No one is asking the Americans to apologize to these Irish. This article is just laying out the sad facts.
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feliciamaisey | Oct 17, 2012, 03:50 PM EDT
Why should the illegal unemployed Irish person be any different than the thousands of hungry, near or actual homeless people across the entire United states? I am not disregarding the tragedy of circumstances, but having once been homeless with children, hiding from an abuser set on killing us, I found little or no support and it took me years to crawl back to civilization. Whilst I truly empathize, this is not a culturally specific tragedy, and I am a bit annoyed that the article is written in such a manner as to suggest that the Irish face more shame than anyone else finding themselves in these tragic situations. I have family in Ireland and have strong emotional and familial heritage with Ireland, and it is my want to live there permanently, no jobs and all. However, I find it unacceptable ot do so as an illegal maneuver and I cannot wrap my head around those that think it is okay to work in this country or visit, try to move in and work, and then lose it all. I say this when the Irish rules make it near impossible for an average American to do the same--and they take that standpoint without apology. Should Americans apologize to the Irish few (in the big picture sense) that make the mistake thinking they can better the odds?
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Lacy | Oct 17, 2012, 03:29 PM EDT
Abraham Hicks-You Tube
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Lacy | Oct 17, 2012, 03:27 PM EDT
Theres a speaker called Abraham Hicks on YouTube its very good. I've never heard a more articulate speaker about things. It is about the law of attraction. I hope people don't scoff at it. I'm not in that type of situation but I think it fascinating. I recommend it to anyone... So
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merefalow | Oct 17, 2012, 03:04 PM EDT
I THINK THIS APPLIES TO ALL IMIGRENTS,to leave home and all who love you,to have to find work,and not be able to sometimes,to end up broke and hungry and homeless,with no support system and no money,its very understandable aspecially if you are young and all your dreams and aspirations are illusions,thanks to the greed and exploitation of our banking system and the crooked polititions who never checked and balanced a corrupt system.its still rotten and corrupt.our young people need a safety net.
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cillowen | Oct 17, 2012, 12:14 PM EDT
they need to get off their bottle hide aways. Go to libraries instead and email their feelings about the sharks who've ruined their homeland. Blood sucking FF FG Labor etal Being in such a setting they could have access to job finder tools to excite hopes of a future.
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Searlit | Oct 17, 2012, 10:55 AM EDT
My heart goes out to all of these people. They are not only fighting the depressing feelings of isolation from home, family and friends, but suffering the feelings associated with unemployment which is a huge identity issue. Then there's also the stereo-types they have to endure. Whether intentional or not the picture accompanying this article helps to reinforce such stereotypes. I hope those unemployed and in such a situation can hold on. The economy is moving in the right direction. Seek help , when needed, you can always return the favor somehow, when you're doing better.<3
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