‘Suffering of Irish people outrageous’ says NY Times Paul Krugman
Irish financial advisor warns of 'depression that will last for generations'
Published Monday, November 28, 2011, 7:17 AM
Updated Monday, November 28, 2011, 9:31 AM
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Saoirse9 | Dec 01, 2011, 11:19 AM EST
Pardon my last sentence, was a bit in a kerfuffle as I was writing it. It should've read: Don't play into that old game, created by "the powers that be", since time immemorial.
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Saoirse9 | Dec 01, 2011, 11:16 AM EST
Enough with the demonizing of immigrants! Yis sound like the right-wing eejits on Faux (Fox) "News". Bankers screwed over Ireland, and continue to do so there and around the world. Is your knowledge of history so limited you cannot recall when Irish immigrants to the US were blamed for the economic ills of that particular time? Immigrants are again being blamed for problems not of their creation here in the US. Wake up! And follow the money. Those are the folks screwing over the 98% of us. Everything else is just race-baiting. Much like "playing the Orange Card" back in the day. Giving some poor eejit another poorer eejit so he can feel better about his economically depressed situation. It's called scapegoating. Don't play into the powers that be old game.
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eiregirl | Dec 01, 2011, 05:19 AM EST
eh, duh!! Mr. Krugman is just talking shop. Instead he should go and offer his service pro bono if he is so worried about what we already know.
And would you all zip it about immigration. We have planes now, people move around the world and settle. GETOVERIT.
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Irishblack | Dec 01, 2011, 04:30 AM EST
GeorgeDillon, I'm an African migrant living in Ireland. Unless you have the right to stop me from expressing my concerns about matters concerning the Irish nation, I guess you'll just have to watch me do it helplessly. I asked the question..if they close off immigration completely, do you think Ireland will be back to the good times when Anglo were throwing money at developers like crazy? George, focus on the main issue. Stop thinking immigration is the root of all Irish problems.
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tempranillo | Nov 30, 2011, 11:10 PM EST
this is really simple to explain.square one. Ireland's economy is open. that means exports & imports are very important. whilst that important fact was ignored, banks over did it on real estate. fluthered on real estate. kalabingbagnboom. in the states, lehman's demise causes a creditiquidity crisis. ireland has not recovered.
and why is that? return to square one. europe is ....well, de-toxing.............and things gotta get better before ireland prospers.that said, the suffering is outrageous & we ought to be trying to understand how ireland can become expand its markets---Ireland should not get pneunomia when germany sneezes.no need to get sociological
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GeorgeDillon | Nov 30, 2011, 02:40 PM EST
I've heard this garbage before, the stuff that Irishblack is putting forward. It's garbage because 1/ people who oppose Mass Immigration are more likely to oppose the Irish ruling class than people who support the Irish ruling class project of Mass Immigration and 2/ it was the same Irish ruling class which has brought the country to ruin that promoted and instituted Mass Immigration. All their other policies were corrupt and incompetent, but BlackIrish wants us to think that actually one of the ruling class's principal policies --Mass Immigration--was a wonderful idea! Garbage, BlackIrish. The ones who gave Ireland Mass Immigration are the ones who gave Ireland Mass Emigration. I'm assuming you are an Irish citien, Irishblack. Please confirm. If you are an African migrant in Ireland you have no right to take part in a discourse about Irish immigration policy. You should be neither seen nor heard on matters of concern to the Irish nation.
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Irishblack | Nov 30, 2011, 05:41 AM EST
@Pittsburghkid, the blacks are only calling the Irish racist because now that Ireland is struggling, a total of 40,000 black people living in Ireland are no longer welcome..that is xhenophobia. Instead of Irish people standing up against greedy Irish bankers, developers and politicians who have nest-eggs of Irish taxpayers money in off-shore accounts and civil servants getting lump sums of 300K and pensions of 200K, you decide to blame black people. Nowonder it took 800 years to get freedom. The only fighting spirit I see in Ireland is at any GAA All Ireland Final. Stop blaming foreigners for your problems and stand up and fight your own people (who happen to be ass white as you) who have dragged Ireland to it's knees.
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seanomelbourne | Nov 29, 2011, 05:15 PM EST
Right winghunter should balance his reading material with Klugmans positives.
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sirpeter | Nov 29, 2011, 01:48 PM EST
mairdemalone.I'm trying to work it out.But I can't seem to get the figures to add up to where 90.2 million people are in need.Italy seems to be in a very bad way with 50 million in need.They only have a population of 60.6 million.When you say they are in need.Do you mean they need a new car?Because if they drive Fiats they will.lol
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mairdemalone | Nov 29, 2011, 12:41 PM EST
Ireland's 2.5 million people in need; Italy's 50 million; Greece's 9 million;Portugal''s 8 million;Spain's 38 million adds up to 90.2 million people who are suffering the worse of the greed perpetrated on them by those without empathy or compassion: so called "Captains of Industry; bank CEO, Government Officials and Church Leaders.
So this Christmas, lets ask the richest 1210 Billionaires in the world to give enough Billions of Euros to cover a gift of 2,250 Euros to each man, woman and child, next years DEPRESSION will be averted. If you don't believe me, work it out. (2,250 will increase productivity, which increases workers, increases sales, increases profit for every one. Its time for those with money they will never spend to share their wealth with those who helped them create it. Donating expensive art to galleries the poor cannot afford to visit, is a crying shame.
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sirpeter | Nov 29, 2011, 10:39 AM EST
Ireland is just an onlooker at this stage when it comes to Europe.Who the hell is suffering anyway?I don't know anyone who is suffering from the austerity measures.Not yet anyway.The government are still making sure everyone has a roof over their heads and every family have at least €700 cash every week plus the other load of free benefits.When I see the street riots.Then I'll know it's getting bad.
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Winghunter | Nov 29, 2011, 06:10 AM EST
Comrade Krugman is one of the worst excuses for human beings we have in the US (The Nobel prize has recently proven to be nothing more than a means to award a Communist agenda). But, don't take my word for it, check out the 49 pages of links documenting his treasonous and psychotically drooling idiocies http://bit.ly/rtERv5
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Winghunter | Nov 29, 2011, 06:04 AM EST
Comrade Krugman is one of the worst excuses for human beings we have in the US (The Nobel prize has recently proven to be nothing more than a means to award a Communist agenda). But, don't take my word for it, check out the 49 pages of links documenting his treasonous and psychotically drooling idiocies bit.ly/rtERv5
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Sectionhand | Nov 29, 2011, 03:03 AM EST
jamthecat ... I don't think Krugman uses spell check either .
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