Struggle with church continues after emigrants leave Ireland
A case study at USC by journalism students there
Published Monday, March 4, 2013, 7:57 AM
Updated Monday, March 4, 2013, 5:02 PM
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anglo-norman | Mar 05, 2013, 07:32 PM EST
Sounds like StevenStar is jealous..
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ancavker | Mar 05, 2013, 01:39 PM EST
The Irish in Ireland now, for all of their so called education, drink more now then they ever did. I know
lots of older Irish people, those who came in the late 40's, 50's and early 60's who neve touch the stuff And a
few who have the odd one or two on occassion.
The Irish may be more educated than ever but they are drinking more than ever too.
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ancavker | Mar 05, 2013, 01:35 PM EST
STEVEN: I will be home again this summer to Ireland like every year, and may pop over during a business trip to London in May if time permits. Am I going to see you decked out in your Man U Jersey?
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STEVENSTAR | Mar 05, 2013, 01:18 PM EST
@@@ANGLO NORMAN ..HAHA...DO I REALLY ? BUT NOT AS MUCH AS I DESPISE YOU :-)
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anglo-norman | Mar 04, 2013, 10:37 PM EST
StevenStar- Yet you hate America & Americans.
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STEVENSTAR | Mar 04, 2013, 07:51 PM EST
I DONT THINK THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS STRUGGLING BECAUSE OF IMMIGRATION I THINK ITS STRUGGLING BECAUSE PEOPLE THESE DAYS ARE MORE EDUCATED AS TO WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.. THE CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE AND SCANDALS.. BUT I KNOW ALOT OF IRISH WHO ARE NOW SPIRITUAL.... BUT AMERICANS LIKE TO PORTRAY US IRISH AS THESE HOLY JOES.. JESUS MARY AND JOSEPH... THIS WHOLE HOLLYWOOD THING NEEDS TO STOP ...IRISH PEOPLE ARE ONE OF THE MOST EDUCATED WELL TRAVELLED PEOPLE IN EUROPE... I ALSO CALL FOR MORE AMERICANS TO COME VISIT IRELAND AND NOT ONLY VIEW IT IN MOVIES OR HOLLYWOOD STYLE MAUREEN O HARA FILMS OF DAYS GONE BY ...THE FACT THAT ONLY ABOUT 40% OF AMERICANS HAVE PASSPORTS AND LESS THAN 20% HAVE TRAVELLED TO EUROPE.. I URGE ALL AMERICANS ON HERE TO COME TO IRELAND TO SEE FOR YOURSELVES BECAUSE IT WONT BE ANYTHING LIKE WHAT YOU THINK!!!! TURST ME ON THAT ONE.. NO SHEEP NO COWS OR FARMER O BRIEN STACKING THE HAY OR MARY ANN FALLING OUT OF THE PUB AT NOON AND THE CHILDREN RUNNING AROUND BAREFOOT OR PAT AND HIS DONKEY GOING TO THE SHOPS ....!!!
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CitizenWhy | Mar 04, 2013, 07:44 PM EST
Will we see a trend of Irish and Irish American sexual predators now start becoming liquor store clerks and bar keeps instead of priests?
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STEVENSTAR | Mar 04, 2013, 07:43 PM EST
anglo-norman | Mar 04, 2013, 06:46 PM EST
The Irish must seperate themselves from alcohol,the catholic religion,the IRA/UVF murderers,& their myths before they can progrees as a people.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IM IRISH I DONT DRINK I DONT SUPPORT THE IRA AND IM NOT A CATHOLIC IM A SPIRITUAL PERSON.. ID LIKE TO MEET U ONE DAY AND SHOW YOU THIS.. SO I COULD MAYBE HELP YOU FIND SOME INNER PEACE AND HELP YOUR WITH YOUR ANGER AND BITTERNESS ...YOU ARE MY NEIGHBOR ... PLEASE DONT ALWAYS BE SO MEAN ;-)
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anglo-norman | Mar 04, 2013, 06:46 PM EST
The Irish must seperate themselves from alcohol,the catholic religion,the IRA/UVF murderers,& their myths before they can progrees as a people.
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mayoman1 | Mar 04, 2013, 04:52 PM EST
The pub or the church!!!
Isn't it about time we Irish forged an identity separate from either of these choices. Take the almighty pint off it's pedestal. It has impoverished many Irish families and enriched one beyond measure. The church with it's ingrained guilt may have driven many from it's doors straight to Guinness's. Let's have a St. Patrick's day devoid of obeisance to God or Mammon!
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Seanmor | Mar 04, 2013, 03:29 PM EST
I never blame or condemned the entire Roman Church for the immoral behavior of a small minority of its prients and the covering up of this shameful activity by some of its prelates. I'm by no means a perfect Catholic or very good Christian, but I always attend Sunday mass in the local R.C. church, frequently accompany my wife to service at her Metodist church, and occasionally go to mass in an Anglican church (which is in some ways more Catholic than the Roman churches).
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Seanmor | Mar 04, 2013, 03:11 PM EST
The R.C. Church played a major role in the lives of those of us who were greenhorns in the mid-60s. However, I'm not aware of the Church ever providing us with even a slight fraction of the helps it now gives to ILLEGAL Hispanic aliens.As newly arrived Immigrants, we wewe expected to "give generously" to our Church. Regarding Irish immigrants of my age group squandering our money in pubs, many of us were teetotalers who never felt the need for booze or any other mind-altering drug.
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WoundedKnee | Mar 04, 2013, 02:42 PM EST
"And for young adults looking for more cultural freedom, he said South America's the perfect place." Can someone please explain what this piece of nonsense uttered by the Harvard student is supposed to mean? Truly this article ranks among the worst pieces of "journalism" (sic) I have ever seen on this site.
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WoundedKnee | Mar 04, 2013, 02:29 PM EST
What a stupid error. "Ireland and Scotland are the only two countries in the 27-state European Union that don't require students to learn a second language." Don't the dopes who wrote this know that almost every Irish student in Irish schools learns a second language? It's called IRISH, you clowns.
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