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Sinn Fein’s Gerry Adams slams Queen Elizabeth’s upcoming visit to Ireland

Says the visit will cause offense to many Irish victims of British rule

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pittsburgkid - i'm afraid that u over estimate as both people do what the english think about the ulsterman & ni et al. They don't care about them, what they do care about is terrorists who blow them or their mates up & get rewarding them with a UI. There is no room in the UK for anymore people, unless a 1 for 1 swap could be agreed, every NI who goes to UK is replaced by a SI back to UI. Funny how the mainstream irish who live outside kilburn aren't enamoured with that thought of returning to the mother country. Though a bonus for UI would be the relocation of Celtic to croke park, after all, to be a RC in scotland, when the ulsterman return (probably not in the best of mood) will be a great rarity indeed.
sirpeter - bullsh*t, PIRA & PSF were 1 & the same, my uncles were in separate organisations in the 50s & 60s, 1 in sinn fein & the other is the OIRA. When sinn fein set out on their democratic path, they did so without the ira, my uncle sean is convinced that uncle dermot sold him out to the police, funny how, lists of ira members fell into police hands. When the provos were formed he dallied with them for a little while & was informed that to stop anymore incidents like the previous campaign, that u couldn't be in 1 side of the organisation, but both. The baron attended the talks with Willie Whitelaw in 1973, no sinn fein were present therefore he must have neen a member of pira?
Did you ever think that the English are tired of supporting the orange? The English put the Scotch-Irish in Northern Ireland to get them away from England. Maybe the English want the Scotch-Irish back in Northern England to conteract with the Muslims. The English after 400 years might the Scotch-Irish were not that bad, especially after dealing with the Muslims. Of course Gerry Adams doesn't want peace, then he would be out of a job. In America we have Jesse Jackson, who thinks it still 1968.
Dano..When you grow up in NI,you get used to getting called every name under the sun..You can't get much worse then been called a murderer. Believe me if they had evidence they would have it out by now. I know you don't believe me,but when a person has been tortured and jailed and had 20 shots fired at your car by loyalist's,been hit three times in the neck, shoulder and arm,always fearing for your life and family. You transcend to a higher level. Suing someone for libel would be a waste of his time.Even if he won the case.What difference would it make. People still wouldn't believe him,people that matter anyway,maybe the people who do matter know he wasn't in the IRA. I can tell you Dano. Gerry Adams has been pushing lies aside all his life. People think that Sinn Fein had a grip on the PIRA and they were one..I'll tell you now that is not true. They had influence..Yes..But you don't tell the PIRA what to do. You have to use the softly softly approach or any influence you had would be gone. Gerry Adams managed to hold onto the PIRA and broker a deal with the Unionist's and deal with the British and Irish government. Without him there would be no peace in NI..He waited till the time was ripe before he made his move. He stopped the killing on both sides and got power sharing for the first time in NI..That's not only a good politician,but to me that's a statesmen,and they still hammer him.Even though he had some real help from the USA..He was the peace process. I look at the big picture. The PIRA would never have been defeated..They can't even stop the tiny RIRA. Gerry Adams brought peace to NI where all the government's and others failed..He's not worried about having a good name.
Pacifist! The IRA did not conduct a sectarian war they conducted a war on unionist /British state terrorism they were the sectarians who denied proper jobs,housing and healthcare to the nationalist population and the IRA fixed the problem. You can sit on your barbed wire fence pontificating some misguided moral high ground silently giving succour to ethnic cleansing as it occurred in the north.People like you are more dangerous than the enemy at least we know where they stand.
Sirpete – I get it…but GA could take an action on the allegations and force the evidence, if any, to come out. Why does he not do this to protect his name?
Dano ..OK..I don't know Irish law that well.Wrong choice of words. But you know what I mean.
Sirpete – without wishing to sound pedantic, your use of the tem ‘proven beyond a reasonable doubt’ is inaccurate in this case. An untrue allegation of membership of the IRA would constitute defamation, and under Irish Civil Law…based of course on English common law, would fall to be remedied by a civil action, where the level of proof is the lower ‘balance of probabilities’. Gerry Adams is quite entitled to sue any of his accusers, and given his strong adherence to the law, one wonders why he has not done so, therefore resolving the matter once and for all? The criminal route of prosecution is not open to individuals.
Cont)On Gerry Adams (Read my comment below)Yes thickos, pacifist is the only word for those,who continually believe something to be a fact without evidence.Hearsay..Hearsay..Hearsay..Is not fact. ONES own opinion and conjecture is not fact either. Pacifist..For a person who is suppose to be a pacifist..It's very selective..You have already stated homosexuals are evil, and now you are willing to judge a man without evidence
(Cont)You say God alone judges. Becareful Pacifist,God gave man/women free will and reason.He might just have put that Bible on Earth as a test.When you die,you might just see that bible in the claw of the devil as well as in the hands of God. The devil might hiss to God..Pacifist's heart has interpreted the book my way,that soul is mine.Hypocrisy the ultimate sin. PS..It is also hypocrisy to kill on another's behalf,nobody died or killed for you Pacifist's. To think they did is just your own ego..(think about it more deeply)
FallsRNat...Seamus..Weather Martin was carrying a rocket launcher on bloody Sunday and lied about it, so what.He was in the IRA. What the hell has that got to do with Gerry Adams..Seamus...Your main weakness here is you saying "I can't quite believe him" Which means you cannot prove he is telling lies and you are unsure. In ANY court of law..Saying "I can't quite believe him" is not proof and therefore Gerry's word has to be taken at face value. Until it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt,what Gerry says had to be taken as truth. If people are willing to jump to conclusion's because of hearsay, then they are thickos. This is the reason I defended the 1641 massacres,because it was not proven beyond reasonable doubt that they did not happen. Give me proof and then I will believe he was in the IRA..Not hearsay, which is bullsh*t. You're wasting my time having to correct ya. Unless your agenda is reinforce those lies,which that post appears to be. Stop posting bullsh*t and stick to proven facts.
seanmelbourne, I beleive in the principle that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and as I'm Irish I think we should put our iwn house in order and not make excuses for those who murdered supposedly on our behalf. Certainly the British Army committed atrocities in Ireland and other places in the world and Loyalist terrorists carried out horrendous crimes, but the percentage of 56% of murders carried out by nationalist terrorists during their 30 tears of sectarian terrorism is the reality. The remaining 44% deaths were at the hands of the Loyalist terrorists, the UDA, UDR and the British Army. And marymoore, the Provisional IRA was supported by Gerry Adams to say the very least and he was a proponent of that terrorist campaign - so what did he do? He stopped advocating that strategy because he and Sinn Fein/IRA knew it was unwinnable and cynically donned the mantle of peace monger. Was Gerry Adams sincere? Only in that he opted for the better tactic for himself and Sinn Fein politically in my opinion. Yes - it is time to move on. When Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein/IRA repudiate those awful crimes, but the same expectation should apply to the Loyalist terrorists and the British authorities and their crimes.
Falls When the tough get going the OIRA ran away and changed it's name to the workers party.Pacifist has an anti Irish stance for a "pacifist". Why doe's he not call out the Brit army and their unionist terrorist as murders.Your hiding behind a thin veil,did you borrow it from Fallsrnat?
He needs to get over himself. The war (which he helped lead) is over. Not to diminish the horrible things that happened, but it's time to move on and to continue the peace process. Or was Mr. Adams not sincere about that too?
sirpeter, God alone judges who is deserving of death and not mortal beings like you and I. The disastrous consequences of the partition of India and Pakistan were rooted in the religious rivalry and hatred of the Indian and Pakistani peoples. But partition was what they wanted and the conseqwuences cannot be laid at the feet of Mountbatten. Elecktros, Gerry Adams has been denying for years he was in the IRA and I certainly don't believe him. It may be that he lied initially for his own reasons- and I doubt that they were honourable. But now he must maintain the lie or else lose all credibility. However I don't think those who disagree with me are, as sirpeter suggests about those who disagree with him, thickos. Again, on the number of murders for which the Provisional IRA was guilty, I don't know the actual figure. But independent accessments put the figure of murders carried out by nationalists at approximately 56% and I believe the vast majority of that percentage was by the Provisional IRA.
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