Sinn Fein warns dissident republican groups in the North the “war is over”
McGuinness tells dissident thats building a new future will continue with or without them
Published Sunday, June 3, 2012, 7:56 AM
Updated Sunday, June 3, 2012, 7:56 AM
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Towngate | Jul 02, 2012, 01:22 PM EDT
Adams says the War is over! ... pity he forgot to mention that he lost! .............." listen youse, I wanna get aulocted augain down here, an' youse are spoilin' my chances, so youse are, by behaving the way I tol' youse to in Norn Iron. Hov youse no sense of Irony?
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Bythebay | Jun 06, 2012, 03:05 PM EDT
There is no interest in either Northern Ireland or Ireland for any discussion of a United Ireland. The more the Provo IRA Terrorists push, the more entrenched the no side will be. The IRA Provo Terrorists don't and never wanted an inclusive Northern Ireland or Ireland. They're just failed terrorists.
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DanOLoingsigh | Jun 06, 2012, 02:43 PM EDT
Seamus...you are correct as far as you go. But the people of Ireland were asked about the articles...and they agreed to the amendments...the question has always been whether coercion or persuasion was the right course...and if one accepts the latter, then it follows that the majority of the minority can choose notto be persuaded...Nationalists could not be persuaded to stay in the union with the UK, where they were a minority...
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seamus60 | Jun 06, 2012, 06:58 AM EDT
Dan. The majority from the minority part of the Country have the veto. There fore the majority of the people of Ireland are not in control of voting in a United Ireland.
As for mandates, I have no problem with them if those claiming the same do not call themselves republicans who have always seen the proclamation as their constitution.
Had the people of Ireland been asked to change that document republicans would now have been compelled to adher to the mandate. Republicans not prepared to adher could then be deemed dissenters. Funny that the same document was not open to interpretation by the PRM until Gerry decided it was. I as a republican who does not believe in millitary action refuse to be a hypocrit and label those republicans who differ in opinion as traitors etc. Very little has changed although those bennefitting most would have the world believe the sun now comes out of certain peoples backsides early in the morning to light up the whole country. Even though they practice Gerry mandering etc.
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DanOLoingsigh | Jun 05, 2012, 06:32 PM EDT
Seamus - All the people do have a say...either side, or both sides, can reject or accept...so the veto is available to both...groups without mandates can expect to meet resistance...which is how it should be, unless you think unrepresentative minorities should hold sway over their fellow citizens?
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seamus60 | Jun 05, 2012, 01:05 PM EDT
Dan. Articles 2&3 were sacrificed by the Gov of the 26 by way of their in-importance due to all the people of Ireland aquiring a say at some stage on the issue of a UI. All hogwash when put in context that the Loyalists in the north can veto the lot. SF have since been crying what the Gov in the 26 are doing about the issue. Even though they had no problem with it during St Andrews. Republicans have never depended on mandates until the 30 pieces got the better of them.
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RedBranch | Jun 05, 2012, 10:53 AM EDT
Succient post Ireland North. Sure the Dissidents are merely Peace Processers in training for future lucrative and powerful careers healing the pain. I'm not sure Dissidents best describes them as they haven't 'dissented' from republican principals, unlike others I could name.
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IrelandNorth | Jun 05, 2012, 09:32 AM EDT
In the beginning there was generic Sinn Fein. Then there was Fianna Fail: Sinn Fein Light. Then there was Fine Gael: Sinn Fein Light-er. Then there was Labour: Irish Socialist Republican Party (ISRP) Featherlight. Then there was generic Sinn Fein again - for slow learners. Anglo-Irish Treaty, 1922 - for ideological autistics!
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DanOLoingsigh | Jun 05, 2012, 03:41 AM EDT
Seano - wrong again...it's your flag that includes a Union Jack, not mine!!!
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DanOLoingsigh | Jun 05, 2012, 03:37 AM EDT
Seamus60 - The people didn't vote on issuing the proclamation either...they did, however, vote on the constitutional changes, sending a clear signal on how the majority want matters to proceed in the future. Democracy is a painful option for those who self-elect themselves to speak and act on behalf of others...
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seanomelb | Jun 05, 2012, 12:41 AM EDT
Dano repeating his well worn-out mantras, again with nothing to add but his maudlin pro-British rantings. I suppose you wore a union jack top hat on the weekend and a matching vest of course Dano???
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seamus60 | Jun 04, 2012, 05:28 PM EDT
Mamaginnty. Worse than inviting cheap labour in from outside is when you pass such schemes as the Workfare. SF and the DUP have passed this in Stormont. Unemployed young people would be sent into companies including multinationals and compelled to provide their labour for free. If there is something requiring their labour in the first instance, surely both partys are neglecting their duty to creat employment and further filling the pockets of shareholders at the still unemployed`s expence.
In total contradiction to what SF are pushing in the South.
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seamus60 | Jun 04, 2012, 03:22 PM EDT
Dan. The people of Ireland did not vote on changing the proclamation. Neither did they have any influx to many of the concessions at leeds. Rather a bought republican leadership turned their back on the proclamations contents and their own long disregard for mandates. The big question being is when had they started this treacherous process and how many died unnessacerily.
Why should people not stand up to occupation whilst it and many of its consequences remain. Not every ones for sale.
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mamaginnty | Jun 04, 2012, 01:44 PM EDT
GoergefrigginDillon what pure bullshi* Sinn Féin had nothing to do with foreigners coming in during the boom years, two thirds have already left, but it still rattles you because you still go on and on about them, yet you are not Irish. More of a bigot. We are trying peace as a way to reclaim our land, when we were at war the world called us terrorists, can't please everyone. Sinn Féin are growing faster than we ever thought possible in the south of our country. Our own government are running scared, so the next three years will tell the tale. Beidh Éire a bheith saor.
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