Senator David Norris believes IRA hero Michael Collins may have been gay

Ancakver this site is full of posters with selective memory syndrome or retrospectively trying to re-writing history

bock: Ah no child, I did not make it up> mr Norris stated that it was a mistake for Ireland to leave the U.K. Do your own reserch. Therefore he believes the state is illegitimate. As far as Irish people believing it was a mistake to leave the U.K. at the time, that is a bunch of nonsense. They simply could have voted for Redmond's Irish Nationalist Party; they did not they voted for Sinn Fein. Are you saying the Irish people at the time were too stupid to know what they were voting for?

Did Alcock and Brown bring homosexuality to Ireland from America?

Where do posts go when not immediately posted, but read as "Your comment has been sent"? Who have they been sent to precisely? Who could be so arrogant as to life esomeone elses posts and deprive readers of quality copy, and why so consistently? (a) IrishCentral? (b) State censors? (c) Other? Is Big Brohter watching in the Free World (sic)?

Really? "News" article based on nothing. Irish Central sure does love it's gay topics? Also anything to do with Maureen Dowd, Christine Quinn and, naturally their shameless love affair with the Obama's. Sheer nonsense!

I did not say Sinn Fein took part in '16 Jacer I said McGuinness and Adams are members of the the same party as Griffith!! You seem to ignore that fact and fail to address it.

About as exciting as the color of Collins' hair or his eyes. Come up with anything to get a book published, I guess.

The book can be found (if you really look hard)in the very bottom shelf of the very back row in the humour section. Where it belongs.

Wow,is that so,well i met a guy in the pub who said he shot Kennedy,invented the wheel & discovered fire,gave Einstein some relativity theory.Absolute rubbish, to say something controversial to sell a book by a man well known as a liar, narcissist and shameless self promoter.The collection of facts known about Michael Collins dont bear out this .This is not an attack on the gay community but a indictment on David Norris' charactor that this unsubstantiated hearsay (probably fictional)meeting with an unnamed lover be given the respect it deserves.If he really wants to out someone,do it to somebody alive today with proof & see if that sells more books,or simply sell the book on the merits of its substance,if thats a viable option,which i somehow doubt.

1. Who cares? 2. What concerns me is the "news report" based on some guy talking to a really old gay guy who claims that a hundred years ago he had a tryst with Collins. Of course a nobody would love to make themselves seem important by claiming to have sex with someone famous. If I say I had sex with Jackie Kennedy do you just take my word? 3. Even if Collins did have sex with this guy - A HUNDRED YEARS AGO! - It doesn't make him a homosexual. In some ways people were more flexible long ago. How many novels and memoirs of the time have been printed in England and Ireland about their Boarding School days? Even Churchill alluded to it in his. IT was common knowledge. IT doesn't mean that half the country was homosexual back then and now only a few percent are. Just because people did it because it was in vogue doesn't change their basic nature.

What do i think about this? Well This s my last post after about 5 years on this website. Totally disgusted by this socialist , anti American, and anti Catholic website. Will go back to the local online news from Ireland. This site is offensive to Catholics, Irish and Americans of irish heritage. Sensationalism and pushing a socialist agenda is all this site is good for. To all with an open mind and a love of Ireland and her faith Slán agus beannacht leat.. Red

Seano: (I know you mean my post was “INcorrect”) - pls read yr post of 11 Oct 06.20pm “Interesting selection of names Alois considering that McGuinness is the only name mentioned who is a member of the same party as the Hero's of the '16 rebellion”. I repeat: Sinn Féin was not a party to the 1916 Rising, though some of its members joined the mishmash heroes under the umbrella of the Irish Republican Brotherhood. Neither Sinn Féin nor members can ever be seen as “Hero’s (sic) of the ’16 rebellion”. Let’s stick to historical facts. I agree w/ yr remarks on Arthur Griffiths being a side-liner in 1916.

I never stated that Sinn Fein took an active part in the '16 rebellion. In fact there were divided loyalties in Sinn Fein and Griffith the consummate politician stood on the sidelines whilst the post office burned. His acceptance of the presidency in 1922 says heaps on where his loyalties really were. I merely stated the fact that Adams is the president of Sinn Fein, a long line stretching back to Griffith's and both were/are freestaters. So you see jacer your post is correct and says nothing that I have not known already.

its a lousy stinking calumny,and it does matter,to assosiate michael collins in the same company as british polititions,with simpering lisping limp wristed fudge packers sickens me

May I correct a widely-held mistaken belief (e.g alois and seanomelb): Sinn Féin was hardly involved in the 1916 Rising at all. The Irish Republican Brotherhood organised the Easter Rising, with a mishmash of groups of differing views on Irish Independence actually taking part. The main groups were the Irish Volunteers under Padraic Pearse, the Irish Citizens Army under James Connolly and Cumann na mBan (Irish Women’s’ Council, a women’s subsidiary of the Irish Volunteers) of which Countess Markievicz is probably the most famous active member (she shot a man dead) along with Elizabeth O’Farrell, the nurse who carried the surrender flag in 1916. Sinn Féin was effectively founded as a political party in 1905, but only came to prominence in the General Election of 1918, with American-born, Irish-raised Eamonn De Valera as its President. The mistaken belief that Sinn Féin was involved in the 1916 Rising comes from that only some Sinn Féin members joined the Irish Volunteers army which led the 1916 Rising and a lot of romantic thinking. The IRA didn’t exist in 1916. It was a 1920’s descendant army of the Irish Volunteers of 1916, which as seano rightly says was hated by Ms. Norris.