Scotch-Irish will no longer be included in official US census figures- POLL

Johnnyh Since I've already written a book on Irish History and thoroughly researched it,tell me my mistakes your smartness.

My goodness Murph46 just where did you study history. Your not one of those who read a Tim Pat book and took all the mistakes and inaccuracies at face value are you. From your post I'm not even sure you could locate Ireland on a map.

Looking at the numbers, The category is "Irish or Scotch-Irish" 37,926,777. The Subcatogories are "Irish" 34,669,666; and "Scotch-Irish" 3,257,161. The last two numbers add up to the total, "Irish." This, BTW is the 2010 Census; the next will not be taken until 2020. So Scotch-Irish are tabulated. This is one of the oldest groups, however, and probably includes a lot of people of mixed ancestry. There is a separate category, "American," 19,975,875, which might be more appropriate for people whose ancestry is mixed. My husband usually uses that one because his family has been in this country since the 1600s and includes English, Welsh, African,American Indian, and Irish.

Look up the term Gallowglasses,these were the Scots mercenaries brought in to kill Irish,and chase those out of their properties that didn't have the taxes to pay such luminaries as Cromwell.They were recruited for their massive size and ferocity.Some received the very lands that they intimidated the defenseless Irish out of.Thus Scots-Irish after they assimilated.

The divide and conquor techniques of the long term occupier has muddied things with great effect. Brilliant Saxon, the people of the world should know it being so. The term Scot Irish was for Mother England Planted Ones. Brough in from Scotland. Wonder if England's planted Orange boys call themselves Scot-Irish. Those in Derry planted did a name change calling it Londonderry the plaice wher the come from, watcher kock, cor blimey. Scotland got its name from St. Columba, founder of the monastery at Iona island from whence he spread christianity to those wild characters on the 'ighland and beyond. Ireland was referred as Scotia, Scotia Major to be precise and the name of Alba (real name for the land which became Scotland, was Scotia Minor.) Setting out to christainize Scotia Minor souls was Irish prince, St Columba, who was the real magilla, a Scot from northern Ireland a name the Picts or whatever their name were adopted perhaps when he became their patron saint. They later would claim St Andrew as their patron saint - it had to do with the reformation no doubt.

Using the term "Scotch Irish" is as silly as saying "viking Irish".Protestants from the north with an Irish ancestry 200yrs. old or older only use the term to distinguish themselves from Catholics.I wonder why Irish Catholics with a scottish ancestry do not refer to themselves as"Scotch Irish" They (the so called Scotch Irish) resent their Irish ancestry.

So according to the government, not only do Scots-Irish not exist anymore, but all Hispanics are the same ethnic group too. Sure, they may be the same RACE and all have some Spanish descent, but each Latin country is different. Have you ever referred to a Cuban as a Mexican? Second, that's funny I did not have the opportunity to refer to myself as anything but "Caucasian, non-Hispanic" on my census sheet. By that logic, there are likely way more than 34m Irish-Americans.

Theyre British. They were planted in Ireland and so werent welcome here.

So right Joan Scotch -Irish is half McNaughtons ,And half Jameson's in a tumbler. Although a Celt,I'll still prefer 100% Irish-Jameson's

It seems pretty strange to me that in a Politically Correct world were a person can claim their gender as Gender X people are denied the right to proclaim their heritage!

While this is on Scots-Irish, here in Texas Irish numbers are a little low because children of Mixed Irish and Mexican blood (and there are many of those) list themselves as Hispanic even if they have Irish surnames. I chuckle at the use of the word "scotch" which is actually the whiskey, Scots is the nationality. So it should be Scots-Irish and, yes, it was used to differentiate the difference between Presbyterian Irish and Catholic Irish in the 19th century.

Wit ya all the way Kilgara-Barry Sotero -one time only!

The Scotch-Irish silliness did not begin until the late 19th Century. Before then people of Irish Ulster Scots ancestry just considered themselves to be Irish. The Scotch-Irish identity started as an attempted to separate people of Irish Scots Presbyterian identity from Irish people of Catholic identity. There are amazing numbers of people of Scotch-Irish ancestry in the USA who do not know of their Scotch-Irish/Ulster Scots ancestry. My favorite book on the Scotch-Irish/Ulster Scots is "The Scotch-Irish - A Social History" by James G. Leyburn, which may or may not still be available.

Everyone deserves a right to their own heritage.

McNaughton I've always been told is Scottish and now my sister tells me it may not be Scottish at all. I've been told I may have Quaker in me too. Hennessy could even be French. I thought the Irish all started out as escaped slaves ? Or they were commonly put into slavery ? I can't quite remember which. ;)