Scotland now claiming Ireland’s patron Saint Patrick as one of their own

I would not be surprised if this St Patrick chap was made up..

OK misswhisp! If so, I stand corrected. I was just retrospectively circumspect given the crypto-theocratic skullduggery of the reputed Laudibiliter, 1169. The fact that both Pope Adrian IV and King Henry II were Englishmen requires some explaining to be done.

What nationality he was is less important as to what kind of Christian he was? The history of Christian orthodoxy has not been kind to native peoples. It can be considered the paradigm imperialism, from which other temporal authorities took their perfideous cue. Having served to repress native pagan Druidism, he can be considered the precursor of Adrian IVs Laudibiliter to Henry II. The rest is hysteria!

Pretty thin evidence. It could simply mean those earls wanted to advertise that they were descended, as was Wallace of the movie Braveheart, from Brian Boru. British and European royalty and nobility sought to marry Brian's descendants because Boru had the only accepted genealogy going back to Adam through the relatives of Christ, this picking yup Christ's genealogy. This was a big deal in the Middle Ages.

the scots have a tradition of stealing from the people of Ireland, Scot Dempster tried to alter Vatican records to credit his thieving scot nature on thingies Irish - changing of nigh all Vatican documents on the Irish to being that of Scotland. The English as is evident by their six counties take over have taken the guts out of Ireland's seats of kings and myths. The Severn valley is from whence Patrick was taken as a slave. Hadrian's wall in north England was the boundry by which the Romans kept out scots intent on doing them harm. To find Patrick's Daddy leaping the wall and having children born in Scotland shows the lenght heritage stealers will go. Inadequacy, plain and simple.

Patrick was the son of citizens of Rome, I believe. I wonder, however, if they were Celtic- they could have been Welsh or Scots Celts or ethnic descendents of Rome. I believe that we do not know where St. Patrick is buried but if his remains are discovered, DNA advancements might identify his ethnic background.

I gratefully lived in Scotland (a most beautifully landscaped piece of our world to which I would encourage all to visit), for some time, unfortunately discovering in that time that, excepting quite a many few, it was riven with wicked communities with little sense of Christian neighbourhoodliness or charity. And still is, today. We need saintly people to re-invigorate Scotland’s huge Christian heritage, as introduced to them all by Ireland’s saintly monks spreading the good news as expounded by St. Patrick and his follows-on. Perhaps Scotland needs people from America to re-invigorate Scotland’s true Christian heritage... that of the true Christ, wherein no Catholic or Protestant beliefs exist but only that of Christ.

citizen69 - " All we know for sure is that he wasn't Irish." We also know that the Irish were Christian and literate long before the English or Normans. It's also widely accepted that Christianity was in Ireland prior to St. Patrick, who may have been an indigenous Scot (a term which derives from the Irish) but not an anglo-Scot.

@anglo-nutzi - "Why ever not...the Irish claim everyone else" Give us some examples of how the Irish, as a race (or sub-racial taxonomy) have claimed someone as Irish who had not already self identified as Irish you pathetic troll.

Citezen69 using silliness yet again to diminish the Irish. Whayt's your point Wellington was Irish the pope is not Italian,hitler was not German etc.

Ah sure he was Scottish and it is why the clover had only three leaves.

One of my favourite intra-national flags is the pre-Act of Union, 1800/'01 British union emblem, ie the current British union flag minus the Saint Patrick's saltire. Just seems nicely uncluttered not being the symbolic meat in the imperial sandwich. If and when Scotland pulls out of the currently constituted nominal United Kingdom, and Ireland and Scotland ally, the previous British union flag minus the enlarged superimposed Saint George's cross of England would look quite snappy too. If St Patrick was Welsh in a Roman occupied Britain, he could be considered Roman too.

What a bunch of unscientific hogwash! As citizen69 appropriately points out, NOT ALWAYS reported Patrick from Wales! Scotland, England, Wales, Manx, France and Italy have all been mentioned by one historian or another. Many grant that St. Patrick was educated in France or Italy. England has long been the favorite of authors. Wales and Scotland have also been mentioned. What has been gaining favor in recent years is the notion of the "two-Patrick" theory.

http://saints.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=89

Regardless of this article's opening paragraph, it has NOT always been reported that Patrick was from Wales. Scotland has long been suspected as his birthplace, along with Wales, England and even a few people think he was from France! All we know for sure is that he wasn't Irish.