Relatives of Ireland’s martyred heroes rally to preserve Easter Rising HQ
Heart of a Dublin - Last Battlefield of 1916, on Moore Street, is the soul of a nation
Published Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 8:54 AM
Updated Wednesday, May 2, 2012, 8:54 AM
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ciaradexy | May 04, 2012, 03:38 PM EDT
All non-Americans should organise a mass boycott of the US till the non natives get out and give the country back to the natives.
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ciaradexy | May 04, 2012, 02:45 PM EDT
George, I agree with you! Please organise a mass boycott of Ireland by Americans such as yourself! Your 'culture' has introduced McDonalds and obesity to my country.
Seano, west brits? Youre the one living in a country run by the Queen. I live in the Republic of Ireland and spent this week paying my respects to Pearse, Clarke and McDonagh who were executed 2 minutes from my house in Kilmainham Gaol on the 3rd of May.Joseph Plunkett married his fiancée, Grace Gifford, in Kilmainham Gaol chapel at 1.30 am on 4th May so I have laid flowers and paid my respects. What have you been doing over there in the Queens country?
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GeorgeDillon | May 04, 2012, 03:04 AM EDT
I think folks who read the loony tunes of our two Mass Immigrationist boosters ciaradexy and bythebay (or is that just one??) can now see what the mass Immigrationist project is: deny Irish people a sense of their own identity and culture, and swamp them with foreigners. As bythebay puts it, knock down historic buildings in downtown Dublin in order to give room to Afghans, Paks, Poles etc to take over the neighborhood. I urge a boycott of Ireland by American tourists. If we wanted to go visit some slum in Kandahar we'd catch a plane for Afghanistan.
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seanomelb | May 03, 2012, 10:58 PM EDT
I believe Moore st. should be preserved as a memory to those who fought and died for liberty that fateful Easter. Pearse and his buddies lit the torch of freedom which so many west Brits wish to extinguish, or cast into oblivion as it hurts their sensibilities and makes it easier for them to forget the debt they owe our heroes of Easter week
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Bythebay | May 03, 2012, 07:45 PM EDT
merefalow, Moore Street isn't the US Declaration of Independence. Have you ever visited Moore Street? I doubt it. There is absolutely no reason to save those buildings. There are thousands of buildings in Dublin and Ireland with some historical connection. Not all should be saved at all. But your opinion won't affect what happens them.
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Bythebay | May 03, 2012, 07:40 PM EDT
clelander, very unfortunate you would jump to labeling me a bigot simply because I described the area. Nowhere in my message did I make any negative comments about our new Irish at all. It's indicative of the quick to judge Americans whose comments are baseless.
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Bythebay | May 03, 2012, 07:36 PM EDT
Searlit, I'm surprised with your interest in 1916 you didn't go to the GPO.
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clevelander | May 03, 2012, 06:33 PM EDT
@bythebay It aybe that I jumped to a conclusion. But Searlit wished to visit the area in question and you wrote to Searlit, "then be prepared for the Romanian Gypsies living there as well as the Chinese, and immigrants from India and other countries. The entire area is in disrepair." How should I take it. I see at least a bit of bigotry in that! No!
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Bythebay | May 03, 2012, 06:28 PM EDT
GeorgeDillon, great idea, all the Americans can stay away since they're so offended by Ireland's self-determination. ciaradexy, I'm well aware of heritage efforts in Dublin and elsewhere in Ireland since I live in Ireland. However, not all buildings should be saved for obvious reasons.
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Bythebay | May 03, 2012, 06:21 PM EDT
Curitiba, don't worry about it. Lots of heritage for you to save in England.
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Curitiba | May 03, 2012, 06:20 PM EDT
Just because a building is privately owned, it does not mean that the owner can do whatever he pleases. The local council and the heritage people decide what is appropriate, if major changes are proposed.
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Bythebay | May 03, 2012, 06:19 PM EDT
Curitiba, fantastic! We in Ireland aren't aswerable to either you or England where you live.
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Curitiba | May 03, 2012, 05:58 PM EDT
I've got two eyes, Byethebay. I can focus on on the UK and ireland.
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Bythebay | May 03, 2012, 05:36 PM EDT
johnshiel, you also have never been to Moore Street have you? Hilarious you can have such a strong opinion about a place you've never seen. They are privately owned buildings, all fully occupied. They will continue to be such until the owners decide to do otherwise.
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Bythebay | May 03, 2012, 05:32 PM EDT
like2tweet, obviously you know nothing about Moore Street at all. It's not at all like Federal Hall, it's privately owned dwellings and businesses all fully occupied.
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Bythebay | May 03, 2012, 05:23 PM EDT
Curitiba, you live in England, not Ireland. You need to focus on your own country, not Ireland.
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Bythebay | May 03, 2012, 05:19 PM EDT
clevelander, how unfortunate you immediately interpreted my statement as bigoted. I mentioned the Romanian Gypsies living there as well as the Chinese, and immigrants from India and other countries and did not say one word against any of them nor make a negative comment about them. You Americans come to Ireland in complete denial about our multiculturalism. You need to be well aware you will find the buildings on Moore Street privately owned and occupied by many of our new Irish.
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casualMBA | May 03, 2012, 04:27 PM EDT
Applause
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Curitiba | May 03, 2012, 03:53 PM EDT
So Ciara, Ireland is a club anyone can join then, rather than a country where where the people have a shared ancestry, ethnic identity, language and culture? A completely made-up thing that panders to the current crackpot political ideology, where people turn up and get enthusiastic about it like the latest ipad, then move on somewhere else when they tire of it, because they don't have any real ties or ancestral connection to the place? Sounds great.
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ciaradexy | May 03, 2012, 02:46 PM EDT
Maybe everyone should boycott the US until you migrant spawn give the country back to the natives?
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ciaradexy | May 03, 2012, 01:39 PM EDT
George, thats a great idea but heres a better one. Boycott Ireland until an asteroid wipes out the earth, that would suit everyone.
Bythebay, Im from Dublin and there has been a on ongoing campaign to save and rejuvenate Moore St just like there now is a campaign to spruce up Thomas St and the Liberties.
IrelandNorth, varadker is Irish. this is not the US where we feel the need to pigeon hole people. He is Irish as Alan Shatter is Irish. Their colour, religion or the place of birth of their grandparents means nothing here.
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GeorgeDillon | May 03, 2012, 12:41 PM EDT
Irish-Americans should boycott Dublin until the city shows that it respects its history.
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johnshiel | May 03, 2012, 10:43 AM EDT
"you don't know what you've got,,,,until you loo-oose it" so says the song, the saying, the sidewalk sage... maybe this applies, too, to waking up when you've ALMOST lost it...?
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johnshiel | May 03, 2012, 10:34 AM EDT
save it!
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IrelandNorth | May 03, 2012, 08:37 AM EDT
A partitioned Ireland is not what it said on the 1916 biscuit tin. And IRISHMEN AND IRISHWOMEN fought and died for somthing much grander than a tourist attraction - important though that may be. The current Irish Government (including its Indian-Irish Tourism Minister), needs to be reminded that it is still the Provisional Government referred to by Pearse in the Proclamation of the Irish Republic. The 26 county (81%) republic is not the definitive article. And that the Island in question is Ireland and not the Cayman islands! Younger Irish posters, (as accidental victims of a revisionist education and press/media censorship), need to be told that Pearse and Connolly are not members of Boyzone or Westlife. And that 1916 is much more than a minute after a quarter past seven in the evening. Alas, Mé Feinism has predominated over Sinn Feinism - at least up until now! And if that wasn't ideological autism, I don't know what was?
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like2tweet | May 03, 2012, 06:52 AM EDT
its abloody disgrace. This is like destroying Federal Hall
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merefalow | May 03, 2012, 04:21 AM EDT
its like destroying the american declaration of independence.unbelievable that it could be even contemplated.they are destroying one of the most important historical site in our history.shame shame whoever contemplates this.must be stopped.
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Collette2 | May 03, 2012, 02:31 AM EDT
It was a wonderful idea having put this into comic form a few years ago.
Placed where a child could pick it up and read it at random is a sure way to have this historical event memorised.
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Searlit | May 03, 2012, 12:42 AM EDT
89west, Ha, ha, you're right. I was just trying to be concise. I meant we traveled on to the West of Ireland. Lisdoonvarna and Doolin. The Cliffs of Moher, a favorite place. This is where I always like to spend a few days, since the rest of the time we're staying only one or two nights along the way.
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donal1951 | May 03, 2012, 12:13 AM EDT
Other than visiting family, heritage tourism, including ancient religious sites, are the main reasons I would visit Ireland again.
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penelopemurphy | May 02, 2012, 09:52 PM EDT
We were there in Dublin in 2004, 2006 & 2008. My husbands grandparents were there - Grannie was laying down bullets to allow the men to get safely across from the GPO to HEnry then to Moore st. Go Grannie!
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89west | May 02, 2012, 09:09 PM EDT
Searlit.........just curious; if you went to Skellig Michael off the S/W coast of Ireland and then traveled west you would have gone to Newfoundland or beyond.
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warrenpoint00 | May 02, 2012, 08:46 PM EDT
I hear ye Seano, some bunch of wannabe wankers on here hi. God save and protect our island of Ireland from All things foreign... I wish. Ireland is not yet a restored nation (thanks to the brits)but when we do and we take our place along with all of the great nations of the world it is our responsibility to ensure the there is a repose in Ireland for the unfortunate, the disposessed, the tired and the weary of todays world. Somewhat like us the Irish all those years ago.May god bless our nation of Ireland.
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Searlit | May 02, 2012, 06:54 PM EDT
Byethebay, I was there in 2005. We spent the first night in Dublin and the following day went sightseeing. We went to Stevens Green, walked by St. Patrick's Cathedral, went to the National Museum and the library at Trinity College to see the Book of Kells. We went out to Skellig Michael, then headed west for the remainder of the trip.
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seanomelb | May 02, 2012, 06:34 PM EDT
George wants to save Moore st. for the wrong reasons,Byethebay is on his usual bigoted rants and Murph wants the chair.I hope Georgy boy or Byethebay don't find it or the may execute all the immigrants on it and throw Murph and yours kindly into the mix.
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clevelander | May 02, 2012, 05:08 PM EDT
@bythebay you amaze me. You chastise georgieboydillon, (who I have not one thing in common with and I know he is well able to defend himself,) but then you show your own bigotry and intolerance of the new Irish "be prepared for the Romanian Gypsies living there as well as the Chinese, and immigrants from India and other countries." Please STOP, you are making us Irish look like fools and bigots.
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89west | May 02, 2012, 05:00 PM EDT
Too long a sacrifice can make a stone of the heart (WBY), how prophetically revealing of the sentiments of those that have inherited the terrible beauty that was born on that day.
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Bythebay | May 02, 2012, 02:43 PM EDT
GeorgeDillon, your one trip to ireland results in your self-sppointed authority on all things Irish. Your bigotry and foul language characterize you American perfectly!!
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GeorgeDillon | May 02, 2012, 02:37 PM EDT
The neighborhood has really become run down because some of the native Irish gangster capitalists own property around there which they refuse to clean up or develop. For example, the Carlton cinema site on O'Connell Street has been derelict for maybe 25 years now. What other nation would allow a few rogue capitalists bring their capital's main street to such decay, and leave it so for a quarter of a century? Only Dopey Ireland. And of course on Moore Street you see another rotten fruit of gangster Irish capitalism. Namely Mass Immigration, the Irish capitalists' project--the place is full of Africans, Poles and Mongols. In fact a few years ago African migrants were publicly slaughtering sheep on nearby streets. I support the efforts of the people mentioned in the article to Save Moore Street, but to Save Moore Street you first need to Save Ireland from the way it's headed, and I don't see much sign of that.
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Bythebay | May 02, 2012, 12:00 PM EDT
Searlit, when were you in Ireland last?
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Bythebay | May 02, 2012, 11:58 AM EDT
Searlit, then be prepared for the Romanian Gypsies living there as well as the Chinese, and immigrants from India and other countries. The entire area is in disrepair.
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Searlit | May 02, 2012, 11:50 AM EDT
I will write to them. I didn't know about Moore St. though I have been to Ireland 3 times. I would've gone to see it while staying in Dublin, had I known then. It's a location, definitely on my list, now.
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Bythebay | May 02, 2012, 11:07 AM EDT
There isn't much support for this in Ireland. It's been ongoing for a number of years.
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Murph46 | May 02, 2012, 09:55 AM EDT
Save the chair they shot prisoners in!
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