President Barack Obama is winning the Catholic vote in the race to the White House by a country mile.
Obama may be taking flak from Catholic prelates but his popularity is growing with their flock.
New opinion polls commissioned by the Pew Research Center point to a 15 point lead for Obama over Mitt Romney.
Reports say the Pew poll left the 44th president with a 54-39 percent lead over Romney among American Catholics.
Analysts say Obama is running even with Romney among white Catholics but has overwhelming support with Latino Catholics.
The new poll is a major boost for Obama who led by only two points, 49-47 percent, among Catholic voters in June.
Catholic support for Obama is growing despite Romney’s decision to run Paul Ryan, a Catholic, as his vice presidential nominee.
Obama’s popularity is also growing amongst Catholics despite the move taken by America’s bishops earlier this year when they went to court against a mandate that requires church-affiliated universities and hospitals to offer contraception coverage in health care plans for their employees.
The bishops also promoted a ‘Fortnight for Freedom’ campaign leading up to July 4th with demonstrations against alleged threats to religious liberty.
But reports say their actions were overshadowed by ‘Nuns on the Bus’, a 14-state tour by a group of Catholic nuns in protest at cuts in federal social services contained in a proposed budget of which Rep. Ryan is the prime sponsor.
Bishop John Paprocki of Springfield, Illinois, entered the Presidential debate this week when he accused Democrats of explicitly endorsing intrinsic evils like same-sex marriage and abortion rights.
The bishop claimed: “A vote for a candidate who promotes actions or behaviors that are intrinsically evil is gravelly sinful and makes you morally complicit and places the eternal salvation of your soul in serious jeopardy.”
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Switch to the desktop site to post a comment.Madeliene | Oct 16, 2012, 12:56 PM EDT
bo and his plan to destroy Ameirca as we know it will NOT abide> NOBAMA 2012 or NO AMERICA 2013!
Madeliene | Oct 16, 2012, 12:53 PM EDT
LIES and MORE LIES from bo & his minions!
SherryKay | Oct 02, 2012, 06:40 PM EDT
In reply to Scrviner so then I take it you in total denial about the way greedy arrogant white collar criminal 1% rich fat cat and tax cheater and Viet Nam War Draft Dodger lowlife Willard Mitt the Zombie Romney made his ill-gotten $250Million Dollar Fortune by bankrupting hundred of small American Companies and selling off their remaining assets and then shipping their American workers jobs to India, Communist China,Pakistan and Mexico and then Romney hiding his ill-gained $250Million Fortune in his Cayman Islands, Bermuda and Swiss Bank Accounts right? Do you realize what a fool you made out of yourself now then? Your in total denial and I do not mean the River in Egypt.or are you one of Romney's Bain Capital Vultures or work for the RNC?
SherryKay | Oct 02, 2012, 06:22 PM EDT
So,just saw a new poll showing President Obama has over 70% of the Hispanic Vote,and when you add these new polls and watch Landslide Obama lead over Willard Mitt the Zombie Romney,that comes to the fall Romney and Lying Ryan and the RNC are looking the worst total defeat for the Republicans since the LBJ vs Barry Goldwater. And so,the GOP/Tea Party brought this all on itself for nominating the two worst Presidential and Vice President Candidates Willard Mitt the Nit Wit Romney and Mini_Mitt Lying Paul Ryan in 2012! And, has once again proven Einstein's Simple Definition of Insanity of "Doing the same dumb thing over and over again and each time expecting different results". Obama 2012!
Smyrnian | Oct 02, 2012, 02:37 PM EDT
Lokioonline- exactly the point! The unborn have no voice which makes them quite an easy victim. Congratulations on seeing the point!
lokionline | Oct 02, 2012, 02:09 PM EDT
@Smyrnian wrote "I wonder what the baby would have to say about that". This is a really dumb question. The pre-born don't have the capacity to speak because their consciousness (awareness) has yet to develop. Becoming human is a process. A fetus is not an adult or a child. Conflating these states of development reveals a profound misunderstanding of biology and human development The only thing that sustains the argument that a pre-born has the same status and rights as a child or an adult is the notion that an eternal soul is somehow injected into a cell that has just divided due to fertilization and that makes the cells "human". This is a belief that is simply not shared by a very large percent of the population. As such the arguments for recognizing a fetus as equivalent to a child or an adult in the eyes of the law will never be acceptable to enough people for this to become law. A effort to pass a "personhood" law (M-312) was overwhelmingly defeated in the Canadian Federal Parliament just this past week. Do yourselves a favour Smyrnian and pick something else to campaign about.
Smyrnian | Oct 02, 2012, 01:44 PM EDT
Commonscence- nice lecturing rant but killing children does not empower women or raise their status. You sound very shrill and quite desperate and emotional so I suppose killing children would be no big deal to you.
Commonsence | Oct 02, 2012, 12:47 PM EDT
As a son, husband, brother,father and grandfather, I am amazed at the lop sided male representation in support of the women in their lives and on this earth! These men disrespect their own mothers, insult their mates and happily condemn daughters and grand daughters to second class citizenship. Is your masculinity so fragile that you willingly allow other "men" to establish rules that discriminate against your flesh and blood and others? Is the Catholic Church so weak in its convictions that the very thought of women in leadership roles is seen as a threat to survival? It is apparent to anyone who can think that a majority of male Republicans feel threatened by women. Abortion is the issue used by these eunuchs to appear valiant when they are in fact wimps! There are many issues aimed at keeping women as second class. Real men will stand beside the women in their lives and be partners in seeing that discrimination in the church and in this country is ended now and for all time. Remember even most of the "founders" were sexist, but even they were united in founding a country free from religious interference.."there will be no State religion"
Smyrnian | Oct 02, 2012, 11:47 AM EDT
eiriamach - "Women's reproductive choices"? You have drank way too much of the liberal Kool Aid. Is that all it is, a "reproductive choice" for one person to arbitrarily end the life of another, often by partial dismemberment in late stage gestation? I wonder what the baby would have to say about that but the baby has no rights, of course. It's a one party transaction with nobody else having any rights, especially the victim. It's amazing how liberals find torturous ways to avoid saying the word abortion; "choice" being their favorite euphemism. Sickening.
eiriamach | Oct 02, 2012, 11:25 AM EDT
Men should ask what it is that women realize and men ignore about the science and ethics of human reproduction and the science and ethics of human sexuality, including homosexuality. Then they might understand why the Sept. 18-24 Quinnipiac survey shows ~~Florida women likely voters back Obama 58 percent to Romney's 39 percent. FL Men are 50 percent for Romney and 47 percent for Obama. ~~Women likely voters in Ohio support Obama 60 percent to Romney's 35 percent. Ohio men support Romney by 52 percent to Obama's 44 percent. ~~Pennsylvania women likely voters back Obama by 58 percent to Romney's 37 percent. PA men split 49 percent for Romney and 48 percent for Obama. These are huge differences that show some men so ideologically blinded on these issues that they cannot grasp relevant facts (such as McNamara 31 and branagh and EphraimK explain here) and cannot do their own moral reasoning about them. It won't matter to the election--Obama will win. But it will matter greatly on the day after the election, when right-wing Catholic ideologues wake up and realize that they have no way to adjust to the reality of women's reproductive choices and homosexual civil rights equal to everyone else's. Will they continue to spew insults and hatred for Obama and his supporters, or will they find some measure of respect for the consciences of other Americans, who do their own thinking?
BrianO | Oct 02, 2012, 10:06 AM EDT
Again, the Catholic vote is split, with the majority of Obama Catholic vote coming from the hispanic block, thar may change now that univision has decided to do some actual reporting on the fast and furious murders in Mexico.
McNamara31 | Oct 02, 2012, 10:04 AM EDT
russm535il.... Just like all the Commandments, I personally believe we stand in judgment. The area I am trying to bring to the forefront is the political hypocrisy surrounding this is issue and the application of who the church decides to show their wrath against. The Democratic Party has been the party with the people in mind. Social security, Medicare, healthcare, fair days pay for a fair days work, all Democratic principles. Feeding the poor (food stamp programs) are not only Democratic principles, but Christian one's as well. The GOP on the other hand is pro corporation, not for safety nets and have a “let em stand on their own mentality” to the poor, sick and elderly. They support deregulation that pollutes air and water and sickens many children, they support the lobbing group ALEC that goes around the country enabling legislation that makes it harder for patients to bring action against drug companies whose drugs have harmed or killed children. Then all of a sudden when it comes to abortion, they find a “conscience”. When you look at the entire GOP platform in context one realizes they "use" the abortion issue for their own political purposes.
Frosty38 | Oct 02, 2012, 09:59 AM EDT
As a catholic born and raised how is Rudy Giuliani communion he was married more then once. What gets to me as a catholic in my early 70's married to the same man for 56 going on 57years how people who have been gotten married more then once in the RC Church . How do they get that approved?????? did the OLD MAYOR have a affair???? and marry a much younger women OOPS my mistake more then once Spouse: Judith Nathan (m. 2003), Donna Hanover (m. 1984–2002), Regina Peruggi (m. 1968–1982)
Smyrnian | Oct 02, 2012, 06:52 AM EDT
He's also a damn good BS artist. Likes to lecture others and fails to use those elephant ears of his; never listens.
esatdigiwank | Oct 02, 2012, 05:19 AM EDT
JimmieM: BHO is not a muslim apologist but a damn good lawyer!
EphraimKibbey | Oct 02, 2012, 12:45 AM EDT
Great Post branagh! Your logic is impecable. It is sad that there are so many to whom logic is an anathema. I know that the rocky ground around here is really discouraging but keep sowing your seeds. If even one falls on fertile soil, your labor is justified.
hollabackgurl | Oct 01, 2012, 11:28 PM EDT
Abortion isn't the only issue of concern to Catholics. Poverty, health care, protection from gun violence, social justice matter too. Mitt Romney says that stuff only concerns 47% and he has already written them off.
russm535il | Oct 01, 2012, 06:27 PM EDT
McNamara31 If it is a choice for a mother to make- if her child lives or dies and its between the woman and God- why then should her choice be limited to a child who in her womb. Why not allow women to kil their children at any time any age ? What difference does it make if the baby is 4 months old or age 18 - it is still a living person with a soul - a belief Catholics are supposed to have. As for Rudy I am originally from NYC and believe that he did an excellent job handling 9-11 but if he is pro choice then I believe that he should NOT be allowed to recieve Communion. Anyone who is pro choice and supports politicians who vote to allow babies to be mutilated and killed I believe shares in the sin and have blood on their hands. How can any true Catholic stand by and watch this endless slaughter - with the self serving belief that by ALLOWING others to do something evil they share no blame. Russ DeJulio ( half Irish- my Mother ) Pittsburgh,PA
PhlutiePhan | Oct 01, 2012, 04:09 PM EDT
@Rinelda M: Read Malachi Martin.
PhlutiePhan | Oct 01, 2012, 04:07 PM EDT
@McNamara31: It is the job of the priest to preach from the pulpit. It is their obligation to allow the faithful to differentiate between right and wrong. The "chopping up of babies" as they exit the womb is definitely not a right which has now become a rite for the radical woman. The "king has no clothes". BHO is a modern King Herod.
Smyrnian | Oct 01, 2012, 03:11 PM EDT
Killing unborn children is definitely between God and someone.
McNamara31 | Oct 01, 2012, 12:37 PM EDT
russm535 Russ, Then why did the Pope give pro choice Republican Rudy Giuliani communion at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York? I don't believe the vast majority of people are "pro abortion" as you have stated, it is the far greater thought to leave that decision between the woman and God just like the rest of the commandments. My personal views are not for abortion, however I do not feel it is my place to judge others. You know.."Judge not lest ye be judged" Even in Rome, home of Catholicism, abortion are a choice. If the Pope could not overturn abortion in Rome why do you think any one politician can do so here? Ultimately from the beginning of time abortion has occurred because you can not force beliefs on others. Obama has stated many times abortions should be reduced and adoption encouraged.
russm535il | Oct 01, 2012, 11:02 AM EDT
Unfortunately Obamas lead illustrates the state of Catholices in the US. They ignore God and the Churchs teaching and support a person who has voted for abortion in any situation including supporting the barbaric practice of partial birth abortion also Obama is on record for voting to not allow doctors to save the life of babies who survive botched abortion operations. I work with several women who are desperate to adopt children because they are uanable to have their own and are looking to China and Russia because of the shortage of babies to adopt in the US. How can any woman KILL their baby instead of carrying the child to term and then giving it up for adoption. ABORTION is NOT a CHOICE it is the KILLING of a child isnt murder against Gods first commandment . You CANNOT be a Catholic and be PRO Abortion ! Russ DeJulio Pittsburgh,PA
pilib04 | Oct 01, 2012, 10:31 AM EDT
Donegal6, your logic is quite similar to Romney's.
pilib04 | Oct 01, 2012, 10:30 AM EDT
Catholic voting patterns tend to be slightly more progressive than their Protestant counterparts.
pilib04 | Oct 01, 2012, 10:20 AM EDT
The same PEW poll also shows that White Catholics split evenly between President Obama and former Governor Romney. Whites only make up 60% of American Catholics. 31% are Hispanic, 4% Black and 5% Filipino, Other Asian and Native American.
Danny | Oct 01, 2012, 10:00 AM EDT
I really like IC, but why are they giving so much support to Obama? He is one of the worst Presidents that the U.S. ever had. As an Irish American, and a Catholic, i believe that Obama is a Muslim apologist!
McNamara31 | Oct 01, 2012, 09:50 AM EDT
To all the posters who hypocritically choose to place the whole issue of abortion at Obama's feet...Roe vs Wade was made legal in this country during the Nixon administration with Republican appointed judges in the majority.That's right Republicans. And where was your outrage and venom when 3 times married pro-choice Republican Rudy Giuliani received communion from the Pope in New York's St. Patrick's Cathedral? When Obama addressed Notre Dame He urged supporters and opponents of abortion rights to "work together to reduce the number of women seeking abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies, and making adoption more available, and providing care and support for women who do carry their child to term." Those are his views. I'm amazed at how some Catholic choose when to be outraged and when not to be. The GOP who enabled abortion all those years ago then flipped and used it as political strategy to win elections pure and simple.
Smyrnian | Oct 01, 2012, 07:55 AM EDT
More wishful thinking by IC. Obama is not getting any Catholic swing vote. This is a ridiculous idea. IC must get more balanced and forget this blind love affair with Obama.
JimmieM | Oct 01, 2012, 07:24 AM EDT
The only way this anti-christian is winning the Catholic vote is by cheating...or are Catholics turning anti-christian?
ColleenMcVeety | Oct 01, 2012, 05:29 AM EDT
greeneyedlady57...you are right. Not only partial births, but if a child should survive a full term abortion...Obama voted while he was senator that it would be left to die. Look up the facts folks. Have the Irish stooped that low? Not this Irish lady! Get informed! Oh thats right...dopey Caroline Kennedy (something wrong with that lady) thinks it is a good idea as well. Who the Kennedys were...are no longer. She is a disgrace. Not very bright either.
ColleenMcVeety | Oct 01, 2012, 05:23 AM EDT
This online rag prints the same garbage as the BBC. Oh that's right.....you owe England so much money,you are now England! The writers on here are ALL far left. I have never read such garbage...ever. The Ireland that once was..is gone. Good luck at finding a Irish shop in Dublin. You know, one one owned by Irish peoples and the goods from Ireland. So keep leaning towards the left...govt handouts for the little people. Smarten up!
cahalfinbarr | Oct 01, 2012, 04:40 AM EDT
@branagh, I thought this was about Catholics supporting Obama. With Sex Education and Contraception, Abortion has increased throughout the world. Both Muslims and the Pope agree that abstinence is the only sure way to stop unwanteed pregnancies and the spread of hiv's. If you wish to advocate abortion you should go to a different article. If you wish to talk about reasons for supporting Obama then confront the lies of the greedy bankers, speculators, etc who continue to wallow in riches while the ordinary tax-payers pay with their jobs and their childrens' futures.
righton | Oct 01, 2012, 02:07 AM EDT
WHAT PLANET IS COUNIHAN ON? OBAMA IS SO FAR OUT IN LEFT FIELD ON THE ABORTION ISSUE AND HIS STANCE ON CATHOLIC HOSPITALS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES - YOU KNOW THE REST. . .THERE IS A HUGE PROPAGANDA THING GOING ON WITH THE LEFT-LEANING MEDIA - THEY'RE WORKING FOR OBAMA - JOURNALISM BE DAMNED. I GAVE HIM A CHANCE - HE IS A FLOP.
Springfield9 | Oct 01, 2012, 01:00 AM EDT
I hope the moron that wrote this can get cleaned up and sober.
greeneyedlady57 | Oct 01, 2012, 12:57 AM EDT
What the h#!!? What Catholic would vote for a president who promotes partial birth abortion? A barbaric practice where the head of a full term baby is delivered through the birth canal and then scissors are plunged into the base of the babys' scull and the brains are suctioned out! All I can say is God help us and there is still plenty of room in Hell!
branagh | Oct 01, 2012, 12:24 AM EDT
Lots of hate,rubbish,brain deficit stuff here. You might suppose that people deeply concerned about abortion (I am one BUT pro-choice) might bother to address this: a huge dent in the numbers of abortions could occur if,first, children some time before they become sexually active were educated throughly in the home,in the community,in the school about human sexuality. Second, if such children were informed thoroughly on means to avoid pregnancy and STDs and provided the means to protect against both if requested. The disaster is that the RCC is vehemently opposed to these 2 components which might reduce drastically unwanted pregnancy and abortions. Do the Hierarchy want more abortions or not? This is a reasonable question based on their conduct. Note Pope Benedict in a lie that was as bad as holocaust denial stated that condoms do not prevent AIDS - these are the lunatics we have to confront. For people who oppose abortion, doesn't it make sense as well for the US as a society to treasure every expectant mother, provide outstanding pre-natal,peri-natal care, ensure that the mother that whatever her financial circumstances,she and her child will be generously provided for. On this latter aspect 2 items: Democrats aligned with the NUNS this is their fundamental belief while Repubs want to gut all these 47% needy dependant programs. Second, get a life IC right-wing posters-the USA is last of every nation of the developed world,in quality of pre-natal care,in peri-natal mortality, in maternal mortality and every study indicates many more mothers would keep their babies if there was a way a good life was offered them. What a soul-less IC poster community that the post here (I exclude EphraimK and a few others) are just hate,venom,racist,stupid,and not EVEN ONE of the anti-abortion faction bothered to offer something which might reduce abortion rates-you wonder if it's not abortion that motivates them but hate and racist politics.
Donegal6 | Sep 30, 2012, 10:34 PM EDT
There are a lot of "Catholics" that do not follow church teachings . Let's call them for all intents and purposes non Catholics. Practicing Catholics in the lower classes are voting as they want more subsidies. All they will get is more taxes
patsherrard | Sep 30, 2012, 10:29 PM EDT
what catholic in their right mind would vote for obama. worst president we ever had.
cillowen | Sep 30, 2012, 10:19 PM EDT
who in his right mind would vote for a mormon, believers of multi gods and that jesus and lucifer being brothers and that whites are gods and that blacks not fitting such a mold. Crazy faker Joe Smith came up with nonsense that apparently stuck in some circles.
Skibberrean | Sep 30, 2012, 08:54 PM EDT
Patrick Counihan, STOP......with all the leftist crap to sway the vote. There are no Catholics for Obama unless they are just like him. Ignorant, no experience, a fraud, a liar, had to forfeit his law license, and emulates Saul Alinsky and Karl Marx. Please, take time to educate yourself.
Scrivner | Sep 30, 2012, 08:42 PM EDT
SherryKay, you got a bit turned around: just who are the "American jobs destroyer...hateful wimpy...greedy money hungry parasites, tax cheaters and draft dodgers total losers." (Did you even come up for air with that sentence?) Let's see, there are now less jobs than when Mr Obama took office, did Mitt destroy them? Most all of those folks who would lead us are greedy, money hungry-just look at all the "good fortune" the Obama's have had since going to Washington, along with securing their dream house in Hyde Park (snazzy Chicago neighborhood) with the help of Tony Rezko (now convicted of corruption). Tax cheats? You are accusing someone of a felony. Them rich folk with lot's of income and various investments get examined a lot more often that us ordinary mortals, such mischief would have hit the papers a long time ago. Paying tax a lower statutory rate is not a crime, it's obeying the law that others have written. Draft dodgers, hey, most of this generation was, except for me and Raftree and Murph, but we're too busy to run for such office.
SherryKay | Sep 30, 2012, 07:52 PM EDT
So,this is not surprising at all,since that arrogant greedy obnoxious white collar criminal American jobs destroyer RINO Willard Mittens Zombie Romney and his hateful wimpy partner in crime Mini_Mitt Paul Ryan are lowlife greedy money hungry parasites,tax cheaters,and draft dodgers total losers. So granted President Barack Obama is far from prefect but Obama is not The Worst of Two Evils Romney and Ryan. The GOP/Tea Party Blew It Royally This Time!
aloistmartin | Sep 30, 2012, 07:44 PM EDT
Just wait until Barack Obama and Joe Biden start to work thier Old White Magic on Ireland, Wales, and Scotland ~
tombegs | Sep 30, 2012, 07:34 PM EDT
With enemies like Bishop Popcocky (Oh my bad, I misspelled his name) Obama does't lack for friends among US Catholics
Renelda M. | Sep 30, 2012, 07:30 PM EDT
This is not surprising. If Obama is enjoying a surge in support from Catholics, it is because they don't want a Mormon for president. This surge is not for the love of Obama, believe me.
seanomelb | Sep 30, 2012, 06:57 PM EDT
Another four years of Obama is looking good. The desperation it the mitt nit camp is showing and I can almost here the weeping ad gnashing of teeth from the GOP hacks below.
Gaelicpiper | Sep 30, 2012, 05:54 PM EDT
Really!! This is just another propaganda piece. Yet another attempt to suppress the vote of those, including Catholics, whom are leaning toward voting for Romney. Any one heard of the Pew Hispanic Center? Think the poll just might be bias for O'butt-head?
Proud Canadian2 | Sep 30, 2012, 05:47 PM EDT
What ever happened to the separation of church and state. Can't people make up there own minds how to vote without some church telling them who and how. I am a christian(Protestant) and I have never ever heard anyone, clergy or congragation tell me who or how to vote. You vote for the party or man/women who you like. I also can see people bashing the party's or people but why bash Irish Central? If you don't trust there reporting or believe them, then don't come on here.
EphraimKibbey | Sep 30, 2012, 05:39 PM EDT
@cahalfinbarr - This is what makes the sniping at Obama crazy! HE is guilty of EVERYTHING in their alternate universe. He is secretly a muslim but he is also secretly gay and is a baby killer too. He is a nazi in one breath and a communist in the next even though those ideologies did not coexist well in the Europe of the past century. If it has a negative connotation in anyone's mind, anywhere, they throw it at him hoping that it will stick. Talk about desparation!
cahalfinbarr | Sep 30, 2012, 05:10 PM EDT
Muslims do not approve of abortion. Muslims do not approve of Gay marriage. Do I take it that as well as being rascist many Irish Americans are religous bigots.
tundish45 | Sep 30, 2012, 05:09 PM EDT
Hmm. In today's church bulletin it says the Catholic Bishops of Illinois will be distributing three more inserts in the bulletins between now and November 4. As fair as I can summarize in a few words, they say that all of the social good a person can do in public life is absolutely outweighed by support of abortion, which is "intrinsically evil." And, adds the insert, the clear hostility towards the Catholic Church's hospital, education and social services mission in the HHS' narrow definition of "religious employer" should help you decide how to vote on November 6.
Smyrnian | Sep 30, 2012, 04:49 PM EDT
Obama is a socialist, tax mad, spendthrift maniac. And leftist Irish Central LOVES him.
Bocktherobber | Sep 30, 2012, 04:19 PM EDT
I love Irish Central. It's like owning an ant farm without taking up space in my living room.
EphraimKibbey | Sep 30, 2012, 04:06 PM EDT
@irishamerica46 - the fraud is showing up because the Obama administration is going after it and prosecuting it unlike the Cheney/Bush administration. Most of the perpetrators are the wealthy folks that Bush called his base as opposed to the stereotypical GOP 47%. Its like moonshiners contributing to righteous prohibition candidates in dry counties and corporations contributing to Romney to cut their public-protecting regulations and extend their corporate welfare. Most people vote for what they see as their own best interest. Mark Twain said that there are two types of Republicans: millionaires and fools. To that, I think we can add conmen seeking to be millionaires. Sadly, I was in the fool catgory voting against myself and my country way too long. I intend to make up for my foolishness from now on.
MissSusie | Sep 30, 2012, 03:58 PM EDT
We are Scots/Irish (mainly Irish) Americans and not too many people we know (under the age of 60) are going to vote for Barak Obama. He goes through American $$$$ like it's nothing! He's a jerk.
eiriamach | Sep 30, 2012, 03:56 PM EDT
These Pew Research results are similar to other reputable polling. A major reason for Obama's consistent lead in polls is the predicted backlash against the GOP's War Against Women. Look at the Sept. 18-24 Quinnipiac survey of three key states: ~~In Florida, women likely voters back Obama 58 percent to Romney's 39 percent. (FL Men are divided with 50 percent for Romney and 47 percent for Obama). ~~Among women likely voters in Ohio, Obama leads with 60 percent to Romney's 35 percent. (Ohio men support Romney by 52 percent to Obama's 44 percent). ~~Pennsylvania women likely voters back Obama by 58 percent to Romney's 37 percent. (PA men split 49 percent for Romney and 48 percent for Obama). Women necessarily vote on economics and values, and the GOP culture warriors will hear us roar on Nov. 6. With millions of dollars at stake for Catholic hospitals and schools that refuse to provide full health insurance for women employees, of course Catholic bishops try to threaten Catholics into voting against Obama. But they're risking their Church's $71 billion in tax exemptions with their blatantly political activities, and all for nothing, since most Catholic voters are women too!
EphraimKibbey | Sep 30, 2012, 03:42 PM EDT
I do not know why this article is suprising to so many of the commentors below. Obama has been even or ahead within statistical uncertainty in every poll all this year. He has been ahead in all demographics except the over-60-year-olds all year. Since the Clinton speech at the DNC convention and since Romney picked Ryan-of-the-Soulless-Budget with voucher-care, Obama has been pulling ahead steadily and had pulled even with the over 60's. Now, with the release of the Candid Camera Tapes (curse the 47%,) Obama's lead is approaching double digits in many swing states. These are not independents that Obama is gaining because Romney is dropping the same percentage points that Obama is gaining. Romney is turning off many of his own supporters as he shows the rottenness of his Presidential timber. The most telling lead that I have seen is in Mass. where they know former Governor Romney's lies the best and he is losing to Obama by 28%. What is sad about the commentary here is that many of the people below have locked themselves into the one-issue-voter mentality so strongly that anyone espousing that cause gets a pass from them on all the evils with which he intends to curse them and our country. Please remember that Good Catholics being Pro-Choice does not make them Pro-Abortion. This is a decision between individuals and their God and government should keep its nose out to paraphrase the eloquent Ciaradexy.
irishamerica46 | Sep 30, 2012, 03:42 PM EDT
Sorry, can't vote for anyone pro-abortion, pro-euthanasia, pro-homosexual marriage. Also anyone giving away freebies on my dime. Check out the Florida address which received over 700 checks from the IRS. This is only 1 example of all the fraud going on
joeboy1 | Sep 30, 2012, 03:37 PM EDT
Hey Patrick do you still believe in your story? seems like not many other people do!!!!
Smyrnian | Sep 30, 2012, 03:27 PM EDT
I very much doubt that silly headline. Wishful thinking by Obama loving IC.
irish22usofa | Sep 30, 2012, 02:53 PM EDT
You continue to blow my mind. Why are the Irish so fascinated with this man who has invaded our White House? Just because his surname begins with an "O" does not mean he's Irish and deserves your attention. His father was a Kenyan non-citizen and a Muslim. His step-father was an Indonesian non-citizen, and a Muslim. His mother married twice, and in both instances, CHOSE non-American Muslim men. He was raised in a Muslim country (Indonesia), and received his education there, returning to the United States in his late teens. So, where in this process did he get the values of patriotism and love of America instilled in him? By his mother, who doesn't seem to have liked America or Americans that much? (Moving to Kenya, and then to Indonesia.) By his birth Father, who was a Muslim and would have required his wife to be Muslim in her beliefs? By his step-father, who was a Muslim and would have been required by Muslim law to raise his step son as a Muslim? By the school he attended in a Muslim county? Does anyone think that a school in Indonesia would be instilling American patriotism into any of their students? He didn't start his life as an American until he was 18, and even then he might have done this as a foreign exchange student under the name Barry Soetoro. Where did a child of a divorced mother who had no income get the money to graduate HARVARD LAW SCHOOL? Too may questions. Too few answers. This man is a sham, and this Catholic will NOT be voting for him!
Gearoid4 | Sep 30, 2012, 02:47 PM EDT
@Eschetic, Legislative attempts to redefine marriage, so as to include "same-sex" couplings, and support for the terrible evil of abortion, go against the natural order of things as pre-ordained by God and are threats to the common good of society.
borefield | Sep 30, 2012, 02:39 PM EDT
IC is such a RAG at attempting to report anything of substance or truth. They are all a bunch of cackling magpies. I am a proud Catholic, Irish American and I can assure all you second rate wanna be reporters that Obama will not get my vote or those of my family .
BallyKPat | Sep 30, 2012, 02:25 PM EDT
Not this Catholic, and not a lot of Catholics I know will vote for Obama!
Pittsburghkid | Sep 30, 2012, 02:07 PM EDT
The First Gay President,& the first President to force Catholics to pay for Abortion is not a friend of Catholics. Do not believe the polls. They are base on 2008 voter turn out. Republicans are more movated to fire Obama. It was a sin the way Obama critizied Office Crowley in Boston for doing his job. Then Obama had the gaul to force Crowley to attend the Beer Summit. Office Crowley attended the Beer Summit, but never apoligised for doing his job.
cahalfinbarr | Sep 30, 2012, 01:44 PM EDT
As an Irishman I do champion neither abortion nor Gay Marriage. I remember reading that the mine owners of Cornwall said that they couldn't afford to pay proper wages. William Martin Murphy would be ruined if his workers could afford to eat properly. Since 1980 the wealth of the rich in America has increased out of all proportion compared to that of the lower middle class. These people cannot afford to pay American workers. They can afford private planes and helicop[ters and bigger and bigger yachts. They cant afford to pay taxes like the middle class American. They can afford to bribe politicians. They can buy the media. They can preach hatred. They call themselves christians. I have studied the Gospel of Christ for 60 years. People tell me I'm intelligent but nowhere can I see that preaching lies, greed and hatred are the hallmarks of followers of Christ.
StevieVirginia | Sep 30, 2012, 01:34 PM EDT
Obama 2012 / Ozzy Osbourne 666 / Romney 1040
Eschetic | Sep 30, 2012, 01:18 PM EDT
The extreme right wing will spin this anyway they like, but the simple fact is that THEY control the deep pockets in this campaign and the more they loudly push their agenda which goes against most of the ideals most Americans feel define this country, the further Romney/Ryan (which has given the campaign over completely to the Right Wing aganda) slips in the polls. The "Swift Boating" style lies of earlier campaigns only have traction for so long and a majority of Americans are getting tired of the mud. This Administration has actually delivered on far too many fronts despite the unabated obstructionism from my party for any sensible voter to listen to the strident cries of "fraud" and "failure" without realizing the truth in the old truism that look closely at the person MAKING a charge - as often as not they accuse others of the thing they themselves are most guilty of. It's saddest of all that in their desperation, they choose to resort of trying to involve conservative Catholic clergymen to try to whip the faithful in line with things like Bishop John Paprocki of Springfield, Illinois, accusing Democrats of "explicitly endorsing intrinsic evils." Check your facts, Bishop, and you'll find that a majority of AMERICAN Catholics long ago rejected the distortion of the Church's message you are pushing as to what "intrinsic evils" ARE. The rest of the world is following their lead and it is sad for the church that some of its "leaders" are still trying to lead in the wrong direction.
lyoness555 | Sep 30, 2012, 01:11 PM EDT
My God- what a disgrace that Irish are so in love with a Marxist anti semetic, anti american , commie plant who was GROOMED by Arabs to be a "PLANT" in our whitehouse and to bring America to its knees- he is anti colonial thus the first thing he did when installed into the WH was get rid of Churchills Bust what a slap in the face to Americas friends the British!! This is really sad that these people are only FANS OF OBAMA TO PROVE TO THEMSELVES HOW THEY ARE NOT RACIST THUS THEY CAN VOTE FOR A BLACK GUY- HOWEVER THAT EXACTLY IS THE REASON THEY ARE RACISTS THEY ARE ONLY VOTING OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS HALF BLACK ! VOTING FOR A MAN JUST BECAUSE OF HIS COLOR MAKES THESE IRISH MORONS ALL RACISTS AFTER ALL OBAMA HAS ACHIEVED NOTHING EXCEPT STARTING THE RIOTS ALL OVER THE MIDDLE EAST AND GETTING OUR AMBASSADOR MURDERED AND THEN COVERING UP ABOUT IT ! WAKE UP PEOPLE YOU ARE ON THE ROAD TO COMMUNISM- NOT SOCIALISM BUT COMMUNISM
Nicomax | Sep 30, 2012, 12:55 PM EDT
Have we seen any polls yet as to how the Mormon vote is breaking? There may actually be a few in that cohort that are for BHO- Maybe Jon Huntsman and family since they know the Mitt Man very well.
blackstone | Sep 30, 2012, 12:49 PM EDT
Obama is running a huge propaganda campaign, skewing all the polls in his favor. Obama is a fraud and completely incompetent.He is a man of poor character and his life story is one fabrication after another.He had no record in the senate other then voting present, he represents the worst of corrupt politicians.Read about how he bought power in the Chicago all of his associates are in jail. Both his economic and foreign policies have been disasterous. Romney is a man of the highest moral character,successful both in the private sector and public service.He is humble and hardworking. He has been completely vilified by the amoral democratic party.We should all get on our knees and pray to god that Romney is elected in November.
branagh | Sep 30, 2012, 12:46 PM EDT
1. I don't understand the questions on the accuracy of the polling data. Obama has the support of 4 in 5 Latinos or more (overwhelmingly Catholic) 2. Despite what the posters say here US Catholics differ hardly at all with the US population on abortion rights. 3. Abortion rates have stabilized EVEN with the BUSH43 recession/depression! 4. Half of abortions at least are for unplanned pregnancies - is there a shred of doubt that if there were universal early sex education and information of birth control in homes,the school,the community unwanted pregnancies would drop dramatically. But DISASTROUSLY both opposed by the Hierarchy - in fact Pope Benedict claimed condoms do not stop the spread of AIDS - this is on a scale with Holocaust denial. 5. The association of abortion with poverty (rate increases dramatically with income levels 6. Republicans are concerned with the 8-celled embyro but they gut every program including preventive health care and pre-natal care that might make it easier for a mother to take a healthy infant to term and then they gut post-natal care so the USA has the highest level by far in the developed world of infant and child poverty not to mention perinatal mortality.
irishpjk | Sep 30, 2012, 12:23 PM EDT
wtf As a human being nature and instinct taught me how I should behave towards life and survival for both of myself and the species. As a Catholic I learned how God would like me to behave and live a life free of sin. My conclusion is both pretty much parallel each other. Abortion is taking the life of a member of the human race, gay sex will never ever produce an offspring, and both acts go against nature and God. So if I support a man who is in favor of both I cannot consider myself a catholic or a member who has the best interest of our species in mind.
OrenTruitt | Sep 30, 2012, 12:23 PM EDT
PEW is blatently biased. Obama does NOT have the support of American Catholics any more than he does American Jews. The most HONEST polls show Romney well in the lead. Say what you want about Romney, he HAS given back to America. Obama has done NOTHING constructive for America or Americans. The nation is in far worse condition now than it was when Obama took office and NO, it was not Bush's fault.
dickmac | Sep 30, 2012, 12:15 PM EDT
I simply do not understand HOW and Why any Catholic supports him as his positions a very much Anti Catholic and bias. His positions against Catholic hospitals is very strong and pro abortion and the list goes on.....
cahalfinbarr | Sep 30, 2012, 12:14 PM EDT
AS a conservative Irishman, I do not champion abortion or gay marriage.
stanchaz | Sep 30, 2012, 12:08 PM EDT
And rightly so! Prince Mitt wants to be King. He doesn’t have enough. He wants it all. But did the Big Flipper even MENTION the words "worker" or "veteran" in his Republican convention speech? This man Romney is SO out of touch ...that it's incredible. He abandons the elderly, the students, the hungry, the homeless, the helpless, and the hopeless ...and all the biblical “least of these”. Love thy neighbor? Come on Mitt, let’s be honest: YOUR REAL GOD IS MONEY. YOUR saints are those who have the most money ..... those who want to BUY this ELECTION - and this COUNTRY ......and TO HELL with the rest of us. Bottom line: When THEY get a break - hey, they deserve it. But if WE get a break, it’s a handout. BULL! Romney should “self-deport” HIMSELF back to Mexico, where his grandpa fled to avoid the U.S. marriage monogamy laws. ‘Cause Prince Mitt not only wants to kill the Dream Act, but the American Dream as well. We need a President for ALL the people - NOT a President of the wealthy, by the wealthy, and for the wealthy.
mreinhar2001 | Sep 30, 2012, 11:59 AM EDT
jamthecat: You are misunderstanding something somewhere or mis-wording something. Catholic bishops are not telling Catholics "if they vote Democrat, they'll go to hell." When we put out guides to what a voter who wants to vote their Catholic faith we get calls every week, One week someone will Call and say "Why are you telling me to vote Democrat!?!" The next week someone will call and as "Why are you telling me to vote Republican!?!" It looks like you saw something to make you respond to the first week's guide.
haasny007 | Sep 30, 2012, 11:53 AM EDT
Voters will have a clear choice on November 6: (A) Reelect the president who, from day one in office, has worked tirelessly for the middle class and successfully managed to slowly get the country out of the once-in-a-century depression that was left behind by his predecessor, or (B) Vote for the candidate of the party that gave us the global depression, a fabulously wealthy member of an obscure cult with a racist past, who wants us to believe that lowering the tax rate further for himself - at 14% it is less than half that of most readers in this forum - and his fellow 1%ers will somehow miraculously stimulate the economy, create jobs and reduce the budget deficit.
jamthecat | Sep 30, 2012, 11:52 AM EDT
And this is even with bishops telling Catholics if they vote Democrat, they'll go to hell. When the church starts doing that, they have become a political branch of the GOP and should lose their tax-exempt status. And for all you anti-Obama fools, get your heads out of the sand, to put it politely. All of the facts show very clearly the Democratic party is the only one that will do anything for the working man. They won't do a lot, but they won't treat you like serfs, either. By supporting Romney, the Republicans, and the Tea Party, you are supporting people who want to hurt you and put you down as being unworthy. That is self-destructive and I strongly urge you to get help for your mental diseases.
slainte9 | Sep 30, 2012, 11:34 AM EDT
1. Regardless of what Republicans or Democrats promise, they can change what the Supreme Court decreed: Roe v Wade 2. Why would I vote for someone who sends jobs to China and bets against America in the currency markets, but changes his tune when he runs for president. 3. Why would I vote for someone who volunteered to spend the Vietnam War in France, when I was at Haiphong and Vinh. 4. Why would I vote for someone who named his dog Seamus. Seamus PS. I'm naming my next dog Mitt.
Tom Mo | Sep 30, 2012, 11:28 AM EDT
Another misleading headline by Irish Central and Patrick Counihan. Water carries for the failed obama.
Maggie47 | Sep 30, 2012, 11:26 AM EDT
Knockatee, How can you call yourself a proud catholic? and agree with Mr. Obama on abortion Its like Caroline Kennedy calling herself a practing catholic and supporting pro-abortion. You can be both.
Dublinborn | Sep 30, 2012, 11:20 AM EDT
what a load of hogwash even the unemployed ATHEISTS are voting against Barak Hussain Obama in November
bcoc1124 | Sep 30, 2012, 11:16 AM EDT
I received a bumper sticker from a conservative Catholic group. It reads"I'm Catholic and I Vote" I have proudly attached this to my bumper next to my I'm for Obama sticker!
Frazettagirl | Sep 30, 2012, 11:12 AM EDT
You cannot be a Catholic and support Obama. Catholics who vote for him will answer to God. Obama vigorously fought against the Born-Alive infant protection act, arguing that a baby born alive from a botched abortion should be dispatched by the doctor. He is not pro-abortion, he is pro-infanticide. You can hide your vote in the voting booth, but you can't hide from God.
branagh | Sep 30, 2012, 11:10 AM EDT
Great news but not unexpected given how he does amongst Latinos. The NUNS were fantastic and one of the BUS ladies gave a fabulous speech at the DEMOCRATIC convention. HOWEVER,as can be seen here from the luni-comments many posters haven't taken their daily brain medications and you are driving some posters over the cliff of sanity.
handsome68 | Sep 30, 2012, 11:08 AM EDT
Why is it that I think when I read some articles in IrishCentral that you would have made great supporters for Adolf Hitler? You know, articles like, "Der Fuehrer spoke very well last night -- as usual with him, of course -- assuring us that the highway and automobile problems will soon be taken care of. Yes, Ve haf enemies living among our people, but they Vill be taken care of, as well". Many of youse liberal omadhauns seem to have been pushed ahead in school by affirmative action because you were green in colo(u)r back when the Celtic Tiger was roaring.
seansarto | Sep 30, 2012, 10:53 AM EDT
the mainstream media is broken and corrupt...Americans are no longer being fooled by their want to protect what was bad investment...the obum's culture.
Seanmor | Sep 30, 2012, 10:51 AM EDT
In the 2008 election Obama is said to have recieved 55% of the Catholc vote. But as a senior citizen on Medicare and as a former marine who pays $50 out-of-pocket for every visdit to the V.A, hospital,I'm not going to vote for a president whose health plan takes 17 billion from Medicare during the next decade, allows illegal aliens free health care in emergency rooms, and continues to add to the nation's 17 trillion dollars debt.
drussell | Sep 30, 2012, 10:47 AM EDT
The Biahop's name in the article from Springfield is Bishop Thomas Paprocki. Maybe John might be the middle name
pickateer | Sep 30, 2012, 10:45 AM EDT
What flavor Kool-aid are you drinking? Every Catholic I know is not voting for O'BOZO.....
kerry214 | Sep 30, 2012, 10:42 AM EDT
So "Nuns on a bus" were wrong ? DUH !!!
knockatee | Sep 30, 2012, 10:37 AM EDT
I am a proud Catholic who is happy to vote for our fabulous President again.
Smyrnian | Sep 30, 2012, 10:26 AM EDT
Irish Central is madly in LOVE with Obama. Ridiculous.
joan1954 | Sep 30, 2012, 10:15 AM EDT
I am a proud Catholic as well as being American-Irish and I am not voting for Obama. Polls can be skewed and this race is proof of that.
GerryMaine | Sep 30, 2012, 10:11 AM EDT
Probably the poll over-sampled Democrats, one of the scandals of this Presidential election year. I have NO idea how any Christian could vote for Obama.
pdm6288 | Sep 30, 2012, 10:10 AM EDT
None of the faithful Catholic who I know are voting for Obama; they will not support someone who supports abortion, Socialism and forces their church to pay for things that are against their beliefs. My inbox is loaded with articles from friends who do not support Mr. Obama. The people answering the Pew survey may have self identified as Catholics because they were baptized into the faith; doesn't mean that they are practicing. Love how Irish Central and all the Dems out there are forcing this down everyone's throat as if to convince the world that no on is in support of Mr. Romney...we shall see.
adrienrain | Sep 30, 2012, 10:03 AM EDT
The new right wing rationale: if you LOSE the popular vote, it's a symptom of character flaws among the voters. THAT must be how they justify suppressing (even illegally suppressing) liberal voters. Well, neither of this year's officially approved and corporate-vetted candidates will get my vote. If I can't vote for an end to unjustified and unwinnable wars, and for putting criminal bankers in jail, I can't see any reason for voting. There will be room, I think, for writing in Bradley Manning, though.
hermitTalker | Sep 30, 2012, 10:00 AM EDT
Those who study poll results are not totally trustworthy of them. For example no distinction between active, Mass-attending Catholics; those who left the Dems. for Reagan and those who went back with Obama. Voters for BHO who are now disgusted with broken promises and spent trillions with no jobs for it. The efforts of the bishops are being thwarted by the Nuns on the Bus media hype, totally biased reporting by the Oba-media crew- there were 40 at most at any one time, and one at times. Evangelicals including blacks joined the cause which was spear-headed by the bishops once they all caught on to the deception of the HHS mandate which was spun as Bishops versus Vaginas by same blind, biased Oba-media types. Watch for the surge for the last month and see how polls turn, especially the most trustworthy one, among which Pew is normally listed.
BrianO | Sep 30, 2012, 09:58 AM EDT
So again Irish central bends the truth, and can't be fair or balanced.
BrianO | Sep 30, 2012, 09:56 AM EDT
from the Gallup poll---"Catholic voters in the United States are evenly split in their support for Barack Obama and Mitt Romney for president, mirroring the national trend. However, Hispanic Catholics — about 18% of the total group of Catholic voters — are overwhelmingly likely to support Obama over Romney, while a majority of non-Hispanic white Catholics support Romney."---- how many of these hispanic voters are legal should be the question and how has Obama trampled on the Constitution to give these illegal aliens voting rights? I'll be holding my breath for that article on Irish central.
turzovka | Sep 30, 2012, 09:52 AM EDT
Romney's "mormonism" has nothing to do with Catholics voting for Obama. Nor does Obama's phony Christianity have any impact on swaying Catholics the other way. Religion and morality just are not big factors with what most "Catholic" Americans care most about.
hooligan6a | Sep 30, 2012, 09:47 AM EDT
Catholics won't vote for a Mormon. You are right on Bogsidebunny. They all vote for the guy that will give them the most. They all have their hand out, Every damn one of them.
ktrush512 | Sep 30, 2012, 09:42 AM EDT
If true, this should prove once and for all there is no such thing as "the Catholic vote." Faithful Catholics do not support abortion and Socialism. Unfortunately, too many nominal Catholics have been thoroughly indoctrinated over the generations their families spent in the Democratic Party, all the way back to the corrupt Tammany machine. Back then, Democrat corruption was all about patronage and actually gave advantages to Catholic immigrants. It was not the party of infanticide, same-sex marriage and incremental Communist transformation. When the Democrat party lurched hard left into outright Marxism, too may Catholics went along like sheep instead of re-examining their political allegiance through the lens of faith.
bogsidebunny | Sep 30, 2012, 09:37 AM EDT
I agree with you 100% turzovka, Hypocrite, Liberal Socialists. They've inherited the martyrdom gene and the Liberal "feel good" factor from their ancestors when it comes to the Political Correct action of robbing the rich to give to the poor. But like everything else: NIMBYism will prevail when they see how Obama really cares about Catholics. He's a Muslim apologist and will throw the Christians and Jews under the bus faster than you can say: Slánté!
turzovka | Sep 30, 2012, 09:28 AM EDT
In related news ---- American Catholics are religious phonies due to their paying lip service to their faith. No wonder they think only of the handouts their govt gives them, their money and not the spiritual health of their nation ----- no wonder they would vote for a phony and coward named Obama.