41 Comments

• seanomelb | Jul 27, 2012, 07:07 PM EDT

  "Half of Irish youth unemployed" that includes youths from all ethnic backgrounds you ignorant bigoted fool.

• seanomelb | Jul 26, 2012, 08:39 PM EDT

  "Teanga no Ghael" or to simplify it for you "language of the Gaels" is!! repeat after me "Gaelic".If you wish to use the Anglicised name "Irish" your welcome.Dear me we have lost our equilibrium well! you never had it anyway you ignorant fool.I love toying with idiots.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 26, 2012, 03:53 PM EDT

  seanomel: The name of the language is IRISH, you idiot. And it's a language you don't know two words of. But I note that yet again you have chickened out of my challenge. Listen, you racist fool, I'll repeat it. Explain what was defective or deficient in the Irish people that made them deserve to be supplanted in their own homeland by foreigners. Explain that, you stupid idiot. I note that today's Irish Independent reports "Almost half of Ireland's young adults were out of work in April last year, new figures have revealed.". Half of Ireland's young people out of work in their own country, and foreigners taking the jobs on all sides, and racist garbage like you continue defending the capitalists' project of Mass Immigration. Makes me sick, you skunk.

• Kilsally | Jul 26, 2012, 11:18 AM EDT

  pilib04 - Loyalist bonfires happen in the same locations every year on the 11th night - kids usually pile up and collect the combustables - nothing to do with the Orange Order. And I doubt they would want to because then they would have to comply with health and safety laws, get insurance, have marshalls, get the fire brigade to pass the safety etc etc. Councils have been trying to get communities (including Republicans who have bonfires with unionist flags on top) to move to `beacons` but it is very difficult as there isn`t usually a group of structure to work with and if there was then you have all the red tape mentioned above. TayandCake - actually both `sides`, usually teenagers who have imbibed alcohol steal each others flags from lampposts and such like for their respective bonfires

• seanomelb | Jul 26, 2012, 03:20 AM EDT

  Sarah who? Hannity's pick for president.

• dingle999 | Jul 25, 2012, 07:55 PM EDT

  seanomelb - Woundedbrain is probably a supporter of the Tea Party in Georgia. Praise the Lord we do not have the lunatics (in much numbers) here in Ireland.. WoundedKnee is very alike Sarah Palin.. Remember the story concerning Sarah visiting Ireland ? Her plane landed at Shannon Airport to refuel , alas Sarah never left the plane. Indeed they are very alike

• seanomelb | Jul 25, 2012, 07:26 PM EDT

  How am I a racist? Your attempt at Gaelic is puerile and grammatically incorrect. Your use of the word supplanted is also misplaced and if you wish to have a dialogue on Irish history I'm happy to oblige,But I fear it would be all to much for your narrow brain to absorb.

• dingle999 | Jul 25, 2012, 04:05 PM EDT

  "that they merited to be supplanted in their own homeland." WTF WoundedBrain ... I ask the question again do you like the Asians living in Georgia USA ?

• WoundedKnee | Jul 25, 2012, 03:22 PM EDT

  seanomel: You've been publishing garbage here for years. In all that time you haven't told us what was so defective or deficient in the Irish people that they merited to be supplanted in their own homeland. Until you explain this, I'll continue characterizing you as a worthless piece of racist garbage.

• dingle999 | Jul 25, 2012, 01:44 AM EDT

  WoundedBrain do you like the Asians living in Georgia USA ?

• seanomelb | Jul 24, 2012, 08:45 PM EDT

  WoundedKnee is not a bigot he hates everybody. I hope he's barred from owning a firearm.He cannot talk straight and most probably cannot shoot straight.I'm glad he's a balanced individual he drools down both sides of his mouth at the same time.LOL

• WoundedKnee | Jul 24, 2012, 05:06 PM EDT

  dingle wants us to believe that you can't be a liar if you live in Ireland. How about a fool, dingle, is it possible to live in Ireland and be a fool? I guess you prove that rule!

• WoundedKnee | Jul 24, 2012, 05:04 PM EDT

  Scrivner, unlike you I am not a bigot, so I am not going to start attacking Poland or Poles. I'm sure most Poles are fine people (excluding the large numbers in prison for crime in Ireland). They're just very right-wing. Lech whathisname was the only labor "leader" I ever heard of who argued in favour of the bosses and against the workers. Anyway, you haven't identified why Poles are superior to Irish people, so mjuch so that they are a "blessing". Don't hijack religious terms such as "blessing" to disguise what a disgusting little racist you are. Why should Irish people abandon their own ancient homeland in order to facilitate its settlement by huge numbers of Poles? What's the population of Poland? Maybe 40 million? That's ten times the number of Irish in the 26 Counties. Racists like you want the Irish to be levered out of their own country and replaced by foreigners. And by the way, learn a little US history. Look up Wounded Knee before you make stupid efforts to misquote it, you bigoted fool.

• dingle999 | Jul 24, 2012, 04:15 PM EDT

  WoundedKnee Calling me a liar and I LIVE in Ireland and you live (wait a minute) in Georgia USA and yes please read this "Georgia had the second fastest growing Asian population growth in the U.S. from 1990 to 2000" . So WoundedBrain are Asians invading Georgia ? BTW the Irish American population is very small there it is 9.5% Irish... Get real

• Scrivner | Jul 24, 2012, 03:07 PM EDT

  Hey WoundedKneeCap, allow me to add "winning Nobel Prizes and making great inventions." do you recall Lech, who opened the crack in Soviet communism to the benefit of all who love freedom? Would youi say that Chopin was more than a good piano player? How about conributing to the understanding of the universe, like Copernicus? A bit of the industriousness, that Polish immigrants are know for, are a blessing to the society they adopt.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 24, 2012, 12:01 PM EDT

  roryobrien: I note you didn't say "winning Nobel prizes" "or making great inventions". You Mass Immigrationist bigots can't get beyond the racist stereotype of foreign migrants as sports people, no more. Don't bother tossing any more of your racist garbage in my direction. Ding e sin thuas do thoin amadain, a ghamail.

• roryobrien | Jul 24, 2012, 10:23 AM EDT

  Wounded Knee, you sound like you've got a wounded head. Maybe one day Kapownik's kids will be playing for Ireland!Put that in your bigoted pipe and smoke it.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 24, 2012, 09:48 AM EDT

  kapownik: You might want to read up on Irish history before posting here. Ireland was neutral in the Second World War. Ireland owes nothing to Poland. If you want to invade some country in retaliation for Nazism or Communism, the Poles should invade Germany or Russia, not Ireland. Ireland never did anything to Poland.

• kapownik | Jul 24, 2012, 09:01 AM EDT

  2) It is more like entitlement than anything else that Polish people are here to improve their life and those who left behind. You are lucky that we are here to do the jobs that local can’t be arsed to do and we are not asking for financial compensation for all the years of Soviet occupation and/or lost land. While you were busy enjoying your freedom we were busy fighting for it and rebuilding the country because you betrayed us. This is why we are here. Otherwise we would be like all the other people from 'Western Europe' staying at home and probably never bothered to come to the UK. Strangely there is very little people from ‘Western Europe’ in UK, I wonder why is it so. Yes it is your fault we are here, not necessary having anything to do with voting or not on immigration. Maybe you should experience communism and soviet occupation for more than a half of century, people being murdered, robbed and harassed simply because they were politically inconvenient for the communist system or they were followers of any religion (that was incompatible with communism), then and only then you would appreciate what we have done for you. And yes you owe us more than you could possible comprehend.

• kapownik | Jul 24, 2012, 08:52 AM EDT

  1) Have you ever happen to think why immigrants are almost only from so called Eastern Europe (politically) that in fact is Central Europe? History lessons should be your guide. Germans have started the war and then Russians have fought back. Eventually the Russians have almost managed to take over entire Europe including the UK. They didn't enter British islands only because Churchill and Roosevelt decided to pay for freedom of 'Western Europe' with land of countries like Poland, Czech, Slovakia, Latvia, Belarus and so on. Basically have bought peace with not their own property (land). Never mind Polish troops were fighting for British freedom (read about division 303 and how much of a woosies Brits were comparing to Polish man). In one word that is called being traitors. So once we have established facts, now is payback time for over half of century of lies, trespassing and being parasite on people who fought for your freedom and whom you have betrayed. Do your homework.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 24, 2012, 08:19 AM EDT

  Dingle: Do us a favor. If you're going to speak about the language (you obviously don't speak the language) at least get the name right. It's IRISH, you fool.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 24, 2012, 08:18 AM EDT

  kapownik: You seem to be complaining of ingratitude. But speaking of lack of gratitude, when did the President of Poland, or any political leader in that country, thank Ireland for giving a job, a home, health care, free education for their children, monetary payments every month to their children, real or imaginary, etc etc to those countless citizens of Poland who came to Ireland as settlers? Now that's ingratitutde.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 24, 2012, 08:14 AM EDT

  Dingle: You're a liar and a hypocrite. A liar, because there is no evidence that any substantial number of foreign migrants (say even 1%, that would make about 5000 adults) has made any effort to learn Irish. And a hypocrite, because you haven't made an effort either, and you're Irish!

• WoundedKnee | Jul 24, 2012, 08:12 AM EDT

  merefalow: Good post, you've set out the democratic deficit which has dogged Mass Immigration for the past decade or so.

• merefalow | Jul 24, 2012, 06:23 AM EDT

  HORRIBLE,SO EASY TO STIR UP HATRED,if there is anger to be directed it should be against our leader ship of whatever country that signed up to the EU,that allowed mass uncontrolled migration with NO democratic vote on whether the indiginous population wanted it,mass uncontrolled migration is a recipe for disaster but no one will say that for fear of being labeled racist,its not migrents faults for wishing for a better life,its our traitorous representatives who never allowed us a democratic vote on whether we wanted it or not,KNOWING the vote would be a negative.

• dingle999 | Jul 23, 2012, 07:05 PM EDT

  "they certainly didn't know that the country has its own ancient language and culture,..." As usual you are wrong... down here in Dingle the Polish community appreciate Gaelic and some are even learning it. Lastly your comment " for the foreigner settlement of Ireland." shows you have a xenophobia towards foreigners ... Thankfully that xenophobia / bigotry is less a problem here in Ireland than in America

• kapownik | Jul 23, 2012, 07:01 PM EDT

  Not so long ago James Nolan (the Irish lad) have sank in the river after going alone for a walk whilst being drunk. Somehow he didn't got killed, mugged, robbed or harmed by anyone in any way. He was just so drunk he felt into the river and sunk. Strangely Polish people from the city where this have happened put Irish flags on and Irish-coloured ribbons in whole city centre to express their condolences and support for his family, because they thought it was horrible tragedy when young lad got on the 'trip of his life' and to see some games on Euro2012. It was totally people initiative not guided or arranged by any authorities. Personally I was rather surprise why anyone is bothered at all. At the end of the day he got so drunk it was his fault all the way. Nonetheless general public of this city thought and acted otherwise than I would. I just would like to mention here countless number of Polish people being harassed and some murdered by British locals and nobody bothered to show any sort of sorrow or support. Oh well, you can tell real character of a person/people when going get though. It turned out that I was right and people should have ignored unnecessary and tragic death of this Irish man. For me he was just another drunkard on loose nothing special. Only difference was that he was Irish. Somehow it made news in local media for at least a week or more. Shame that people who are so willing to broadcast half hour long programme on BBC about alleged Polish racism are racist themselves. Maybe because there is long and well established tradition of British racism and apparently social permission for this. Shame on you being Irish/British. Things like this make me think if someone will spit in my face or look on me with disgust providing I will ever bother with obtaining British citizenship.

• seanomelb | Jul 23, 2012, 06:30 PM EDT

  "A couple Of kids"! have you seen their birth certificates? how many watched the burning of the flag and no attempt was made to remove them. Did the adults present cheer as the flags burned.Typical loyalist bigotry.The ex British tommy (who served in the north Belphagor)making febble excuses.

• Belphagor | Jul 23, 2012, 05:46 PM EDT

  pilib04 I fail to see how you have managed to connect the Orange Order with the bonfires or burning Polish Flags, posters. The Orange Order have nothing to do with this. This happened on a couple of binfires that I know about, it was wrong and it should be condemned and never happen again, but just because a couple of kids have a gripe against Polish people you can't castigate all Loyalists, that would be like saying all Roman Catholic Priests are Paedophiles.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 23, 2012, 01:37 PM EDT

  If those involved were Loyalists, they were making a mistake. Because Mass Immigration North and South favors and strengthens the partition of Ireland. Poles, Estonians, Africans etc. have no interest in a United Ireland. In fact some of the Eastern Europeans I have spoken scarcely knew that Ireland was a separate country to England; they certainly didn't know that the country has its own ancient language and culture, and they didn't care. So every migrant who arrives as a settler North or South makes Irish Reunification less likely. All the more incomprehensible that Sinn Fein are such boosters for the foreigner settlement of Ireland.

• TayandCake | Jul 23, 2012, 11:59 AM EDT

  I always laugh at the flag burners, they have to buy the flags and then burn them. The Polish are a grand bunch of lads, rise above this

• pilib04 | Jul 23, 2012, 11:38 AM EDT

  The May 5th MLA election was held in 2011. Interesting that they were able to store the posters for 14 months before burning them. As for the bigots in the Orange Order and those with the bonfires, why is anyone surprised? The Orange Order fosters sectarian hatred and bigotry. What else is new?

• Curitiba | Jul 23, 2012, 05:42 AM EDT

  No-one is saying they don't deserve respect, Belphagor. I don't know about Ireland, but I can tell you the oldest people with Polish parents in this present migration are coming up to their late teens, which will make these Polish associations redundant in time when their parents pass on. I assume it will anyway. Maybe some of them will join the EDL, as they will obviously identify strongly with being English, having been born there. Perhaps there will be a problem in the future with people with Polish parents born in the UK being beastly to people born in Ireland of Polish parents who migrate to the UK. Or perhaps their birthplace will not matter and they will strongly identify with each other, as they have have a common background, their place of birth being completely irrelevant, as it was for Polish people who were born in places scattered around Eastern Europe, especially Russia.

• aloistmartin | Jul 22, 2012, 06:37 PM EDT

  Now If John Paul II turns in his Tomb; Does he turn to the Right, or to the Left ?

• aloistmartin | Jul 22, 2012, 06:34 PM EDT

  Though they be the basis for our notion of "Freedom and Democracy" Free Enterprise, Private Ownership and Competition, may well be the Root Of All Evil !

• Belphagor | Jul 22, 2012, 06:04 PM EDT

  Curitba, i would take the 'descendents of Polish immigrants' with a pinch of salt, most of the Polish in ireland have only been here over the past 6 years. I wouldn't know whether they intend on settling here or whether they have plans on moving back to Poland but whilst they are here, they deserve respect from everyone.

• Curitiba | Jul 22, 2012, 04:09 PM EDT

  I don't understand. If your parents are Irish and you are born in England, you are English. But if your parents are Polish and you are born in Ireland, you are Polish. Can somebody explain this contradiction to me, please? Surely this is a case of Irish people attacking Irish people, since if you are born in Ireland, you are not Polish.

• Belphagor | Jul 22, 2012, 02:59 PM EDT

  Seanmor yes there were some flags burnt by idiots on at least two bonfires on 11th July evening. This has been carried out by young thugs an isn't condoned by the wider community. The Polish community in Northern Ireland stands at approx 30K and in some areas where they have built a small community, locals have clashed with them but it isn't widespread and there certainly isn't any organised campaign against them. The Polish people have been persecuted enough over the past 70 years and they should be made to feel welcome in Ireland, North and South.

• WoundedKnee | Jul 22, 2012, 02:35 PM EDT

  This Polish Association is full of baloney. "Racism"? Are they saying Poles are a different race to Irish people? Idiots--they need to learn English.

• bob40wil | Jul 22, 2012, 02:12 PM EDT

  What in the hell is wrong with people today, the hate is becoming just to scary. I'm glad I'm old and won't have to see what the future holds, it's not going to be pretty.

• Seanmor | Jul 22, 2012, 01:03 PM EDT

  Ireland, North and South, managed to exist for centuries without Poles or other immigrants, and could still get along without them. The article doesn't say who burned the Polish flags, but if the culprits are Loyalists, they should at least have given the Polish immigrants credit for having an association of its own in the North, separate from its fellow Poles who live at the other side of of the Partition.