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Peace in Northern Ireland shattered by frustrated, under-educated Loyalists whose union flag protests have no clear endgame

Protesters must come up with a coherence and sense of purpose, recognise what they want and use the political process to achieve it

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FallsNat. Silence is golden.
FallsNat. Where have I said the brits were fearfull of a border poll ? And why would agents of the state infer so ?
seamus60/irelandnorth - you 2 have to be agents of the british state spouting this nonsense about the brits being fearful of a border poll, Adams could a poll everyday, but under the GFA recognised & signed by all of the countries in UN, the only vote that counts is the all inclusive 6 counties, so apart from wasting vast amounts of irish euros, he will achieve absolutely nothing. That's of course, if the SI actually voted SF into power, nah, no chance, FF will take the republican vote in the next Irish elections.
Again.. blessed be the peacemakers.
as a purely financial point - the cost analysis contribution from England to Wales Ulster Scotland is £6 billion, £10.7 billion & £12.7 billion so i can't see the logic in the transfer of NI to EU & frankly its pie in the sky stuff.
In an era of fiscal rectitude, savings of cSTG£10.5bn p/a is economically prudent on the year end balance sheet of Brittania plc. Unless they can be loyal for less. Thing is, where will the breaking poynt be found in the race to the bottom, that will challenge their famous Ulster-Scot monetary canniness.
" The orange barrackers are in denial Curtis. They spent more time in their lodges and the only education they received was from their fathers instilling that hate in their children after each lodge meeting." Yes, a lifetime devoted to hatred and a secret handshake cult does not produce academic excellence.
Irishnorth the only problem is some will want the lions share and as usual the nationalist will "miss out"
IrelandNorth. Thats a more likely reason for the brits to fear a border poll more than the one Adams has come up with. Lovely window dressing for an empty shop.
warrenpoint00/seamus60! Pointz taken. But to paraphrase Terry Wogan - I can feel it in my water that things are afoot whereby Westminister is seeking to transfer a costly budgetary discrepancy from aloss making post-colonial subsidiary onto the corporate balance sheet of the European Union (EU), with the Irish government as their man in Béal Feiríste.
Warrenpoint00. We have been hearing from certain people about all the great work they have been doing since they`re ceasefire, great work or not they are having serious trouble justifying their salaries and its not looking much better for them in the days to come. Nothing but cheats intent on ruling by fooling in order to keep the gravy train on track.
bicitaja. Hard not to turn up at the party when they decide its in your house and any window will do as a door knocker.
IrelandNorth you write that the buzz word is a .."a shared future". The truth is the loyalist/unionist institute does not want to share ,never did and never will and that includes the most liberal of them.The thing is if you were living on someones stolen property gifted to you by an imperialist force I bet you would not want to share it either.Political unity is a buzz word for all the reformed political parties seeking votes of course but because of the bigoted loyalist/unionist mentality of these institutes it just does not work in my part of Ireland.
Let the Loyalists march through empty streets. When no Catholic opposition shows up to protest them, it will take the wind out of the Loyalist's sails and they may eventually give up. The loyalists want violent interaction. The Catholics should just not show up to the party.
The new buzz word by the respective political establishments of the British and/or Irish Isles is "... a shared future!" For Ulster - for Ireland - and for Great Britain too. The utimate sharing is voluntary political unity. Loyality, like any other service, can very often be far too costly. Macroeconomics trums democracy everytime.
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