Peace in Northern Ireland shattered by frustrated, under-educated Loyalists whose union flag protests have no clear endgame

The orange barrackers are in denial Curtis. They spent more time in their lodges and the only education they received was from their fathers instilling that hate in their children after each lodge meeting.

Curtis . Just proves how many of them depended on following their fathers into places like H&W.

The Beer is Flowing ~

"Take a look at education, currently only 1 in 10 Protestant teenagers from working class communities go on to university. In fact in nearly all educational attainment figures, Catholic children from similar backgrounds outperform their Protestant counterparts." Somewhat remarkable considering that the unionist community has had all the advantages and been catered to for centuries in their supremacist playpen.

Warrenpoint. "We did surrender" I have long since accepted. Exactly when our leadership did is something quite differant. All those who fought and died ignorant of their Republican reality in between were quite a concession.

Torytory the Brits have rarely quit any of their colonies. They usually cause havoc and division in tyhose societies and then leave,slapping themselves on the back saying "we'll show them or run with their tails between their collective legs as they did in the 26 counties,the Crimea and the Americas to name a few. You are dead right torytory they never leave a colony with integrity and honour.

ToryTory! Interesting to note youaccuse Seano of doing with your posts exactly what your doing with mine. "We see others not as they are nut as we are!" (De Mello, 1987). Planters and settlers always have to see indigenoue peoples as "foreigners" to justify the landgrab. The Irish Paliamentary Party leader and Protestant Charles Stewart Parnell said: "No one has a right to put a halt to the march of a nation. No one has a right to say thus far shalt thou go and no further!" Ulster planter stock are welcome to throw in their lot in the reinvention of Ireland. But never to forever lower it a the pit of quicksand of partitionism.

God, you talk some amount of crap ancavker. The United Kingdom will not voluntarily and quite arbitrarily cede NI to the ROI - why would it sacrifice the territorial integrity of NI? You spout schoolboy fantasies that aren't based in any political reality; the ROI doesn't even have irredentist claims anymore on NI. Believe me, it's not going anywhere.

Seamus with respect we did surrender but in all fairness it was a conditional surrender and unlike the 1922 surrender we did not compromise any part of our country this time around.I am sure you will agree that there is no political or military solution to our country,s problem.What I am sure of is that unionism/loyalism in our part of Ireland is a dying entity and in another 100 years in Ireland you will be hard pressed to find anyone of this political persuasion.I am sure you will agree that this will not be because of nationalist political persuasion or by bombs or bullets either. Of course you will have presbyterians and protestants just like anywhere else, living in Ireland.You may even have Willie Frazer type elements reminding people of how their powerful institutes of long ago were and you may even have a few union jacks flying but these are some of the things we nationalists agreed to in the surrender of 1994 anyway.What I am sure of is you will have a reunited Ireland, not by political persuasion or by bombs and bullets but by foreign intervention.The families of those foreign nationals that are now living in Ireland and presently being persecuted by the unionist community because they too are a threat to their little orange institute will have taken root and one day be a majority and so we will proceed with the democratic process and the reunification of Ireland.So with respect Seamus I believe that the answer is in the future and not in the past and the future does not look too bright for the bigoted loyalism of Willie Frazier and his friends, so yes I still say that the loyalist/unionist terrorists have and never will have won anything

Seamus with respect we did surrender but in all fairness it was a conditional surrender and unlike the 1922 surrender we did not compromise any part of our country this time around.I am sure you will agree that there is no political or military solution to our country,s problem.What I am sure of is that unionism/loyalism in our part of Ireland is a dying entity and in another 100 years in Ireland you will be hard pressed to find anyone of this political persuasion.I am sure you will agree that this will not be because of nationalist political persuasion or by bombs or bullets either. Of course you will have presbyterians and protestants just like anywhere else, living in Ireland.You may even have Willie Frazer type elements reminding people of how their powerful institutes of long ago were and you may even have a few union jacks flying but these are some of the things we nationalists agreed to in the surrender of 1994 anyway.What I am sure of is you will have a reunited Ireland, not by political persuasion or by bombs and bullets but by foreign intervention.The families of those foreign nationals that are now living in Ireland and presently being persecuted by the unionist community because they too are a threat to their little orange institute will have taken root and one day be a majority and so we will proceed with the democratic process and the reunification of Ireland.So with respect Seamus I believe that the answer is in the future and not in the past and the future does not look too bright for the bigoted loyalism of Willie Frazer and his friends, so yes I still say that the loyalist/unionist terrorists have and never will have won anything

Seamus with respect we did surrender but in all fairness it was a conditional surrender and unlike the 1922 surrender we did not compromise any part of our country this time around.I am sure you will agree that there is no political or military solution to our country,s problem.What I am sure of is that unionism/loyalism in our part of Ireland is a dying entity and in another 100 years in Ireland you will be hard pressed to find anyone of this political persuasion.I am sure you will agree that this will not be because of nationalist political persuasion or by bombs or bullets either. Of course you will have presbyterians and protestants just like anywhere else, living in Ireland.You may even have Willie Frazer type elements reminding people of how their powerful institutes of long ago were and you may even have a few union jacks flying but these are some of the things we nationalists agreed to in the surrender of 1994 anyway.What I am sure of is you will have a reunited Ireland, not by political persuasion or by bombs and bullets but by foreign intervention.The families of those foreign nationals that are now living in Ireland and presently being persecuted by the unionist community because they too are a threat to their little orange institute will have taken root and one day be a majority and so we will proceed with the democratic process and the reunification of Ireland.So with respect Seamus I believe that the answer is in the future and not in the past and the future does not look too bright for the bigoted loyalism of Willie Frazer and his friends, so yes I still say that the loyalist/unionist terrorists have and never will have won anything

Seamus with respect we did surrender but in all fairness it was a conditional surrender and unlike the 1922 surrender we did not compromise any part of our country this time around.I am sure you will agree that there is no political or military solution to our country,s problem.What I am sure of is that unionism/loyalism in our part of Ireland is a dying entity and in another 100 years in Ireland you will be hard pressed to find anyone of this political persuasion.I am sure you will agree that this will not be because of nationalist political persuasion or by bombs or bullets either. Of course you will have presbyterians and protestants just like anywhere else, living in Ireland.You may even have Willie Frazer type elements reminding people of how their powerful institutes of long ago were and you may even have a few union jacks flying but these are some of the things we nationalists agreed to in the surrender of 1994 anyway.What I am sure of is you will have a reunited Ireland, not by political persuasion or by bombs and bullets but by foreign intervention.The families of those foreign nationals that are now living in Ireland and presently being persecuted by the unionist community because they too are a threat to their little orange institute will have taken root and one day be a majority and so we will proceed with the democratic process and the reunification of Ireland.So with respect Seamus I believe that the answer is in the future and not in the past and the future does not look too bright for the bigoted loyalism of Willie Frazer and his friends, so yes I still say that the loyalist/unionist terrorists have and never will have won anything

Seamus with respect we did surrender but in all fairness it was a conditional surrender and unlike the 1922 surrender we did not compromise any part of our country this time around.I am sure you will agree that there is no political or military solution to our country,s problem.What I am sure of is that unionism/loyalism in our part of Ireland is a dying entity and in another 100 years in Ireland you will be hard pressed to find anyone of this political persuasion.I am sure you will agree that this will not be because of nationalist political persuasion or by bombs or bullets either. Of course you will have presbyterians and protestants just like anywhere else, living in Ireland.You may even have Willie Frazer type elements reminding people of how their powerful institutes of long ago were and you may even have a few union jacks flying but these are some of the things we nationalists agreed to in the surrender of 1994 anyway.What I am sure of is you will have a reunited Ireland, not by political persuasion or by bombs and bullets but by foreign intervention.The families of those foreign nationals that are now living in Ireland and presently being persecuted by the unionist community because they too are a threat to their little orange institute will have taken root and one day be a majority and so we will proceed with the democratic process and the reunification of Ireland.So with respect Seamus I believe that the answer is in the future and not in the past and the future does not look too bright for the bigoted loyalism of Willie Frazer and his friends, so yes I still say that the loyalist/unionist terrorists have and never will have won anything

barney: Who Pays? Who knows? But if the English decide they want to be rid of the place (the north), who can force them to stay. Never say never. It could happen.

barney: Who Pays? Who knows? But if the English decide they want to be rid of the place (the north), who can force them to stay. Never say never. It could happen.