News


Paul Krugman slams Irish for voting Yes, predicts collapse of Euro

Nobel economist says Euro currency likely gone in two years


Paul Krugman won the Nobel Prize for Economics in 2009.
Paul Krugman won the Nobel Prize for Economics in 2009.
Photo by Google Images

Guinness PubFinder Ad

New York Times columnist Paul Krugman has slammed Ireland’s decision to back the EU Fiscal Treaty – and predicted the death of the Euro within two years.

Liberal economist Krugman has rubbished the Fiscal Compact in an interview with Irish state broadcaster RTE.

He has described the Fiscal Treaty – designed to keep EU government spending in check – as a ‘bad idea’ and said he cannot understand why the Irish electorate endorsed it in the referendum.

Krugman told RTÉ Radio 1′s ‘The Business’: “Irish voters should have voted only to support what is right, rather than trying to appease the Bundesbank.”

He also predicted: “There is a fifty-fifty chance of the single currency disappearing within two years anyway, given the pressures arising in Greece.

“If the outgoing coalition of New Democracy and PASOK lose power after the second Greek general election, it is likely that Greece will reject its bailout conditions and then end up leaving the currency union almost immediately.

“Even if they manage to stay in it will only take about a year of falling economic growth to put the country at risk of leaving it anyway.

“That’s a move I do not believed the currency will survive.”

Krugman was also critical of the EU leadership and its handling of the Eurozone crisis.

He said: “If the ECB does not rise to the occasion, with very very large lending, the whole Eurozone breaks up in a matter of months.

“There are two inconceivable but equally likely, possibilities - that the ECB’s mandate will be expanded, in order to allow inflation to rise through a process of open-ended lending, or that

Germany will veto expanding the mandate and allowing the union to break up and fail.
“One of those two inconceivable things will have to happen.”

The celebrated economist also suggested the Fiscal Compact is not the solution to Europe’s current problems.

“It deals only with imaginary problems, not the real ones,” he said.

“Ireland had a budget surplus and a low debt. Spain had a budget surplus and a low debt. Both countries are struggling economically as a result of privatising their banking debts rather than through incurring too much sovereign debt.

“The Fiscal Compact would instead force countries to pursue austerity policies which Ireland had already shown to be ineffective.

“Two things were supposed to happen - Ireland was supposed to have an economic expansion, because austerity was supposed to create confidence and lead to economic recovery, and Ireland was supposed to raise confidence in the bond markets.

“Neither of those things have happened at all. The two occasions on which Ireland appeared to be on the cusp of growth, in early 2010 and late 2011, had turned out to be false dawns.

“This is a particularly good example of why austerity didn’t work. Ireland had been a good soldier in undertaking all the reforms asked of it, but still had not yet been able to engineer a lasting recovery.”


Nster.com


34 Comments

15 - 34 | See all comments

Ireland approved the European Stability Mechanism by a majority. The people have spoken with a majority. It's unlike the US which is totally ignoring its imminent default on July 1 and its Congress and President's inability to agree a solution. They're incompetent. Europe has moved to a solution.
"Too many dark-skinned people living in Ireland". No, hassny, too many pieces of racist vermin living in Ireland, starting with you, you stupid racist bigot...
The US can't even address its impending fiscal default on July 1 and is asking for a meeting with EU countries for help.
BrianO, then you are ignorant of both Ireland and the European Union and haven't been following anything in Ireland for at least the Twenty First Century.
@btb, The point of the question was to those that have lived the inclusion into the EU, from an Irish perspective, is Ireland a state of Europe or An independent nation. And yes that same question could be raised to other nations but this is supposedly an Irish discussion board. By your response I infer you are European union of Irish descent.
GeorgeDillon, you are on record in this forum as a narrow-minded, racist, ignorant, ugly Irish-American. Too many dark-skinned people living in Ireland, eh? KKK and Aryan Nation are glad to have you as a member.
BrianO, do you think the same question should be asked of Italy, Germany, Spain, Greece, France, Austria, Portugal, and the other countries? What's the point of your question?
Krugman needs to focus on the $15 trillion US debt which will cause the US to default unless it's addressed by July 1. That is of more immediate concern to the US and Mr. Krugman.
The Economic Stability Mechanism is just that, a standard of economic stability that needs to be followed by all members of the Eurozone. It protects all the countries from catatrophic economic failures in one country.
Ciaradexy: Far from not knowing anything of Ireland or Europe, I even know the ancient language of the Gael, a language you can't scratch two words together in, despite a dozen years "studying" it in school. I speak Irish, though I had none of your access to the language. I guess you were mostly in the dunces' corner. You bigoted fool.
BrianO: There has of course been a loss of sovereignty, more accurately a relinquishing of sovereignty, since the Irish themselves have ceded control of their own economy. As regards loss of identity, this has coincided with the introduction of the euro, but has primarily been caused by the importation of vast throngs of foreign migrants into Ireland. Haven't you been in Dublin recently? If not, you ought to take a trip and go and stroll down O'Connell Street some day. You'll see that foreigners outnumber Irish by maybe five to one. It's more like Kinshasha or Karachi than an Irish city. Rural villages and towns are no different. The forecast was that the Irish will be an ethnic minority in their own ancient homeland by the middle of this century, but recent revisions are putting that Doomsday date as near as 2030.
Haasny, great to meet you and its brilliant that yet another poster sees GD for what he really is-a poisonous little dwarf who knows nothing about Ireland or Europe. Hes a tool and a troll!
I hope the Euro collapses. I want my punt back.
A question I cannot answer because I am not Irish, Has Ireland since entering the euro zone lost any of It's national identity or sovereignty?
Representative democracy is a game career politicians play. As Ken Livingstone once said: "If democracy worked - they'd ban it!" A very Irish coup took place in 1973, when an extremely naive Irish electorate were sold the pig-in-a-poke of the Common Market (CM)/European Economic Community (EEC)/European Union (EU). And given a designer propagandistic press/media beholden to the political establishment, they were/are able to prevail on an impressionable majority of the electorate to vote for this new Act of Union. The electorate were stampeded into voting this way by Government source rumours about [nationalised] bank teller machines not dispensing money if the treaty were voted down. Same old carrot and stick approach to every European treaty. Seems economics trumps democracy every time. The Europhilic political establishment in Ireland (FG/Lab/FF) do not represent Ireland in Europe. They represent Europe in Ireland, whilst being paid hamsomely by an overburdened Irish taxpayer for the dubious honour. But observe how the majority/minority margins are narrowing as an indicator of rising political consciousness.




Log into IrishCentral with your Facebook account


or sign-in directly

E-Mail:
Password:
 Remember me Forgot my password
Not a member? Register Now!
print this article Print
email this articleE-mail