Thousands gather to protest in Ireland over death of mother due to abortion denial - VIDEO

"Leahforce" and others. NONE of us knows what happened in Galway. Wait for the Inquiry. I don't know what part of the world you live in, but, if you are in Ireland, you will know that the position has changed dramatically in the last 24 hours. Even those who were in the vanguard of the attackwagon are now agreeing that the death of Mrs. Halappavanar had NOTHING to do with an abortion. So, now, let's start talking a bit of sense, shall we? For starters, you might begin by recognising that IRELAND has one of the very best safety records - for the mother and the baby - in the world. And THAT is whether you like it or not! Éamonn, Dublin, Very Proud to be Irish.

Medical malpractice for wrongful death due to GROSS negligence civilly. In any other civilized country the treating physician would face criminal charges for negligent homicide. The HSE should face a wrongful death suit for millions and be shaken from it's rotting roots up.

Good Man Yourself, a Sheain! Maith a buachaill! You have my total respect. BTW, the temperature is changing somewhat here at the moment. I get the distinct impression that more of the people are becoming a little tired of the Indian authorities and media - as well as our own Irish media. As you know, the Irish are great at thumping the ould craw, but when others bang on the drum a little too long and a little too loudly, we can always turn and stand up for ourselves. And yes, OF COURSE there is every possible sympathy for Savita Halappanaver and her unborn baby, but the fact remains that she was NOT "murdered", the doctors and nurses are NOT Barbarians, and everybody here is truly sad for what happened - BUT, it is a bit rich for the Indian authorities (where 20,000 women die during childbirth every year - as opposed to Ireland's fantastically safe record) to abuse Ireland and summon our ambassador for an "explanation". I say to them - get your own house in order, and that INCLUDES trying to do SOMETHING about the 1,000 "honour killings" of innocent young women every year. And I repeat - the damn CHEEK of them!!! Best Wishes and thank you for your comment. Éamonn.

Eamonn maybe I was a bit harsh in my judgement

Eiriamach - You REALLY are most annoying. Please have a read of my initial comment on this matter (3.52, November 15th) and then reflect on all of the ridiculous nonsense of your accusations since then. As George Bernard Shaw once said, "Show me the man who twists the words of others, and I'll show you the man whose mental integrity is wrapped in a cocktail sausage". Éamonn.

"Those" are not inferior to me, Eamonn. My comments were directed solely to YOU. If YOU'RE feeling inferior, that experience may be the beginning of wisdom. Most other people have enough common sense most of the time to avoid the kind of shoddy reasoning you regularly display. But perhaps you CHOOSE to write with the mental capacity of a four-year-old because YOU think others are of lesser intellect and will find your words persuasive? We are not all Woundedknee! You "specified" only your irrelevant ranting against people who were not the involved in this tragic incident. You still don't understand, or you refuse to. Try a dictionary: I-R-R-E-L-E-V-A-N-T! I am offended by your arrogant, persistent, and callous attempts to distract attention from an Irish hospital's tragic disregard of a pregnant woman's human rights. Think about her rights before you write again!

Ireland is not a Catholic Country. It's a Roman Catholic dominated country poisoned by the State within the State operated by the Vatican. Enda Kenny say's he does not want to be rushed into making a decision 20 years overdue. Welcome to the Republic of Botched.

Sean - I am saddened that you decided to play the race card. I should have expected more from you. Now, can you PLEASE tell me exactly where I referred to "the colour and religious beliefs of others" in my comments? If it were a white English woman who had died, or a white Australian, and their respective governments and media had made accusations such as the Indians have made, my comments would be EXACTLY the same. As for accusing me of not sticking to the facts, you will have heard of "looking outside the box". No? Yes? Best Wishes to Sunny Australia - yes including all the various colours and religions! (Ooops - is THAT racist also?) Éamonn.

"Eiriamach" - Are you attempting to provide lessons in various terminologies for logic, or are you indulging in a discussion? Your adolescent method of describing what you are saying, for the presumed benefit those you obviously presume to be inferior to you, is quite, quite sad. Now, can you PLEASE tell me exactly what you are writing about when you accuse me of calling (even "implicitly") the Indian media and embassy "hypocrites" for "focusing on Savita's death when so many PREGNANT women die in India". I was writing, as I specified very clearly, about HONOUR KILLINGS in that country. I made my point very clear - an accidental death in dangerous and abnormal circumstances comes nowhere near to the INTENTIONAL killing (murder) of thousands of innocent young women. These women are killed, as I am sure you are aware, not because they are pregnant (although I am sure there are cases of that also), but because they have somehow "besmirched the family honour - by various means, one such being their refusal to marry an old man, etc. By abusing Ireland for the death of Savita, whilst turning a blind eye to its own culture of murdering innocent young women, India is indeed guilty of HYPOCRISY - at its worst. Now, what was that about "logic" again? Éamonn, Dublin.

Unfortunately Eamonn seems to focus on the colour and religious beliefs of others rather than stick to the facts.

Eamonn, you implicitly called the Indian embassy, along with the media, hypocrites (ad hominem fallacy) for focusing on Savita's death in Ireland when so many pregnant women die in India. You wrote, "The Indian government might indeed reflect on which is worse - a very rare death in abnormal and dangerous circumstances, or an average of 1,000 murders per year of young females in a country whose culture and political establishment turns a blind eye to such matters. The intentional murder of young women and girls is surely far, far worse than even the very sad death of Savita." So, yes, you certainly were "comparing 'honour killings' to what happened in Galway" and trying to diminish the impact of the Irish case by talking about the Indian cases. It's appallingly careless, shoddy reasoning, and I hope no one here is taken in by it (I notice that Woundedknee is, but I'd expect no better from such a mind). I notice also that Seano pointed out the irrelevance of your words. An intro-level course in logic will help if your common sense is insufficient to avoid blatantly fallacious arguments.

Isn't it strange that the Irish media - along with plenty of others - have been telling us with great glee for the past few years that Ireland is now a "post-Catholic" country, but now, in the immediate aftermath of the Galway tragedy, Ireland has apparently become a society riddled with "Catholic ethos" again. Éamonn.

"Eiriamach" - Exactly where was I comparing "honour killings" to what happened in Galway? Nowhere! I simply called the damned cheek of the Indian authorities to complain vociferously about a single accidental death in Ireland, when their own country turns a blind eye to the intentional killing (murder) of 1,000 innocent young women in India every year. And I repeat - the damned cheek of them!!! Éamonn, Dublin.

EamonnD, when are you going to take the course in logic that you so badly need (research "tu quoque" and "red herring" and "false analogy" fallacies)? Honor killings in India are absolutely irrelevant to the question of culpable neglect by medical practitioners in an Irish hospital! A ridiculous comparison, or in everyday language, 'two wrongs don't make a right.' Muslims who murder in the name of honor do not provide an excuse for doctors who allow a pregnant women to die without making timely efforts to save her. There are protests because--clearly--there was a failure. It's true that we do not know whose failure or why, whether it was hospital or obstetric policy or some individual's imposing fanatic Catholic anti-choice controls on the situation. But no reasonable person can read about this death and conclude that everyone did everything right.

"Susan724" - You think this is "murder - pure and simple"??? Please make sure never to consider studying law - God forbid you would ever be a Judge!!! Éamonn, Dublin. (P.S. Is your hair up or down today? Just wondering.)